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Re: Nardil Veteran » Spotcheck

Posted by KaraS on December 19, 2004, at 19:03:20

In reply to Nardil Veteran » KaraS, posted by Spotcheck on December 19, 2004, at 18:27:11

> > Has this medication increased or decreased brain fog? (My brain may be ADHD prone - though I've never been diagnosed - so this answer is very important to me.)
>
> Yes, I have discovered that my short term memory is all but gone. It used to be outstanding and is critical for humans to function well in this world.

That happens with age anyway. How can you be sure it's the Nardil (or maybe I should say how can you know how much of the result can be attributed to each factor) if it's over a period of 26 years?

>
> > Has this medication given you more energy and motivation or has it mostly been anxiolytic and/or mood lifting?
>
> All of the above, which is reason I stick with it.
>

It's amazing to me that it has worked for you for so long.


> > How much weight have you gained?
>
> Since I began taking Nardil in 1978, I would say that I have gained 50 pounds in the last 26 years. Nardil causes "carbohydrate starvation." It's a side-effect of course and it will cause you to gain some weight -- if you have to take it long enough that is.

Wish there were some way to block that one side effect. Why does Nardil cause this more than other meds I wonder (or maybe it's in line with the sedating TCAs)?


> > Have any of you been on this for several years?
>
> I have been taking 37.5 mg of Nardil for 26 years. I should have begun taking in 7 years sooner though. I found myself in a serious bind. My Psychiatrist in the mid 1970s did not know what else to prescribe for me, so I went back to college and in the process of earning my BA in Psychology -- of all subjects -- I finally ran across a fairly good discussion of the way it is believed the human nervous system works. Once I saw that I could tell my Psychiatrist that we had to try to inhibit either Catetchol O - Methyl Transferase or Mono Amine Oxidase. In theory, inhibiting either one should increase the concentrations of neurotransmitters at synaptic sites.
>

Wow, that is quite a story. Good for you for being so on top of things even way back then when so much less was known about antidepressants.


> I know of no medication that works on COMT, but I do know several that work on MAO. I selected Nardil because one can combine it with other medications -- if necessary. Hence, I was able to save my life.
>
> > Have you compared the new Nardil to the old, original Nardil?
>

> I sure have. My experience is unique, but I take exactly 37.5 mg of "new" Nardil the same that I used to take of "old" Nardil. This is probably true for most people, but I do know people who do not respond well if at all to "new" Nardil anymore. As a result I made a elixir I call Liquid Nardil, which works extremely well, but it's expensive. Still, it does what Pfizer's "new" Nardil will not do in some people.
> Understand, "new" Nardil is generic Nardil. That is all that is made anywhere in the world these days including England where Link UK makes a generic Nardil and Australia where Link AUS makes generic Nardil, but also puts the old orange Sucrose coating on it -- which makes it appear to be "old" Nardil, but it's not.

So even if the stuff from the UK is not the original Nardil, could it also be that it is just a better generic than what we have in the U.S.? Or do you think that the difference in people's responses is more psychological because they think they're getting the "old Nardil"

So what is it exactly that you do to the Nardil you buy to make it liquid and why is it better?

Have you never wanted to try anything else in all of these years? Actually, it's probably wise that you didn't. You read so many posts here of people going off of a medication but they can never get that original good response back again when they restart on it.


> >(Sorry to ask so many questions but I'm having trouble deciding what medication to try next and I have to make a decision quickly.)
>
> No problem at all Kara. Interesting survey though.
>
> Dave

Thanks for taking the time to fill out my "survey".

K


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