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Re: The *Real* Truth about Stimulant Tolerance

Posted by Philidor on August 22, 2004, at 18:19:00

In reply to The *Real* Truth about Stimulant Tolerance, posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 22, 2004, at 6:18:17

Ame,
First of all WHO TOLD YOU ABOUT MY PANTIES?

Second, I left a post to you the other day, which I guess you never read:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20040817/msgs/379462.html

Anyhow, pleased to meet you.

A couple of things about what you say above. I congratulate you on your not developing any tolerance to Adderall, but then a lot of people NEVER develop tolerance, or not much, to stimulants even after years of use.

So the question is, Have you EVER had to take much more Add than 30mg a day because it stopped working? If so, how much were you taking ?

If not, what makes you think your non-tolerance is because of the DXM, and not just God-given?

Reminds me of that joke about the guy who sees his friend applying this really smelly ointment to himself.

"PEEE-YEW!", says his friend, "What IS that awful stuff you're putting on?"

"It's tsetsefly repellent. I don't want to get sleeping sickness!" say the guy.

"But, you fool," says his friend, "there are no tsetse flies on the whole continent?"

"I know," says the guy, "the stuff really works!"

And I don't care how powerful the drug companies are, if somebody found that drinking Robitussin could prevent or reverse drug tolerance, it would be all over the street and the internet and Rush Limbaugh, for example, would not have developed his addiction nor would many other people who find they need higher and higher doses of opiates to relieve their pain.

And yes, I do read the studies, which interest me far more than the brilliant theorizing: the proof of the pudding is in the eating. An yeah, I've heard of Mophidex.

The latest testing indicates that DMX enhances the effects of smaller doses of morphine but actually LESSENS the potency of high-doses of morphine. Go figure.

But this has nothing to do with "tolerance" per se.

HOWEVER, A study done a couple of years ago came to the fascinating conclusion that DMX in MICRO-DOSES actually DOES reverse tolerance to opioids. For that see my earlier posts:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20040817/msgs/379176.html

...and the post just before it, in which I offer the very hypothesis you do, that if DMX works for opioid tolerance might it possibly work for stimulant tolerance? But all of this remains
speculative.

It is far from PROVEN as you seem to think.

The whole business of drug tolerance is fascinating and incredibly complex. For a brief but intensely interesting take on theject by a pioneer in Ritalin use for ADHD, I invite readers to check out:

http://www.adders.org/info28.htm
Phil



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