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Re: memory, and supplements samplemethod

Posted by Larry Hoover on July 23, 2003, at 7:50:08

In reply to Re: memory, and supplements Larry Hoover, posted by samplemethod on July 21, 2003, at 7:43:34

> Yo lar thanks for that. Big props to Lar. I just wanna say all the info you have provided in the past few months I have been on this board is much appreciated.

I'm glad people are interested in alternatives to meds alone.

> I have been taking the same sorta core supps apart from heavy b12 and heavy niacinamide.

Do you think there has been any benefit?

> will be trying TMG soon... are there any bad effects that can happen with TMG?

Insomnia, and some report irritability. I think that's a dose issue, rather than a substance issue. Genetic differences may be substantial here, with respect to tolerance and effect.

I get insomnia at doses over 1 gram, but I know people who take eight grams.

> Whats your opinion about Evening primrose oil. I bought that lately for the GLA content (10%- havent found borage yet in OZ), and maybe for the other oil content. not too sure about what it also provides.

The GLA, especially when taken with omega-3 fats (due to beneficial competition at one enzyme), is shunted into anti-inflammatory prostaglandins. Borage is a more cost-effective source (more than twice the GLA concentration). My brain's fried, but I think that black currant oil is also better than evening primrose.

> Should I take it? How much you reckon?

1 gram to 2 grams daily, with fish oil.

> I also tried some CLA lately... but have been reading some contradicting studies so I have stopped taking it for the moment.

What bad info have you read? There are pros and cons to everything, you know.

> Ive heard that CLA competes with fish oil in some way and some suggest to use it on alternate days...

CLA competes with the 18-carbon fatty acid, linolenic (e.g. the one in flax). The fish oil is a great supplement because its already in the form your body needs. There is no need for it to compete with anything.

That said, some CLA may be incorporated into phospholipids in place of other unsaturates, but I don't know that there is any problem with that.

> My main interest in CLA was for weight loss. Do you know if EPO will affect my weight loss. Ive heard that EPO is 65% to 80% linoleic acid though I dunno how this will affect me.

You probably are already over-supplied with linoleic acid. It's in all sorts of vegetable oils. CLA does indeed enhance weight loss.

The issue is balance, more than absolute quantities. If the only way you can get adequate amounts of the fatty acids you're deficient in (e.g. GLA, EPA, DHA, CLA) is to take supplements which simultaneously contain other fatty acids already in bountiful supply, so be it. Better with the supps than without.





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