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Re: memory, and supplements SLS

Posted by Larry Hoover on July 14, 2003, at 7:35:59

In reply to Re: memory, and NADH Larry Hoover, posted by SLS on July 13, 2003, at 16:26:29

> > My mood has been stable for a few years now, with some minor blips, and I attribute that entirely to supplement use (though my attribution *may* be incorrect).
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> Hi Larry.
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> Thanks for replying. I'm sure you've already posted this a million times, but I would love to know what drugs and supplements you are currently taking, and which ones you feel contribute to your remission from depression. I hope it's not a well-guarded family recipe!
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> Thanks.
>
> Stay well.
>
>
> - Scott

I can't point my finger at any particular supplement and say, this is the one. They seem to work in concert, at least, or synergistically, as an alternative.

I don't take my supps every day. I'm just not predisposed to anything that routine. Remembering to take prescription meds daily was always a huge chore (but I'm not taking any prescribed meds now, other than temazepam for insomnia, which I simply cannot forget). The intermittent intake of supps may enhance their effect (by preventing dependence), or may reduce the effect, by failing to achieve saturation of my enzymes,etc. Really, all I'm saying is there is an uncontrolled variable in my personal experiment.

Even though I don't take them daily, I'll express them in a per day format. I'm more driven by whim than anything, on the supps. Gut-feeling stuff, my body telling me to up my intake of something. The core group I deem essential for my well-being.

Core supps (stuff I take pretty much every time I take supps):

B-complex/mineral tablets (this is a B-50 complex, with your typical minerals added), 2 tabs/day
B-12, 1,000 mcg/day (cyanocobalamin or methylcobalamin)
selenium, 200 mcg/day
zinc, 50 mg/day
vit. C, 2 g/day
vit. E, 800 IU/day
alphalipoic acid, 300 mg/day
folate, 1 mg/day
niacinamide, 500-1000 mg/day
fish oil, 3-6 g/day

Intermittent supps (stuff I don't take every time, but still with relatively high frequency):

magnesium, 200-800 mg (elemental)
phosphatidyl serine, 300 mg
lecithin granules, by the spoonful
NADH 5-10 mg
TMG 500-1500 mg
borage oil, 500-1500 mg (for the GLA....should take more of this one (personal reminder))
chromium, 150 mcg
cod liver oil, teaspoon

More intermittent yet:
vitamin D, 400 IU (actually a hormone)
Siberian ginseng
ginkgo
St. John's wort (just for tweaking)

I hope I didn't forget anything.

I should conclude with a little blurb about my own philosophy with respect to my health. Despite the different diagnoses (*their* (the medical model's) ideas, and I have other diagnoses I didn't mention), I have long noted that groups of symptoms wax and wane together. Those symptom clusters often are attributed (by them) to different diagnoses. My body says otherwise.

Many years ago, I first hypothesized that a root causative factor for my health problems was what I called a "subclinical malabsorption syndrome", i.e. not so severe as to require obvious treatment, but chronic and debilitating (via malnutrition), nevertheless. That concept, and my extreme sensitivity to the side effects of prescription medications, has pushed me down the supplementation path.

I may be a bizarre freak of nature. Who knows? It's impossible for me to stand back from the guidance offered by my own experience, and give an unbiased recommendation to others, with respect to supplements. I do my best to only report from the literature. That is my caveat to you. I cannot know what may or may not help you.

Recent discussions of celiac and dairy intolerance have re-awakened my thinking. These sensitivities provide a mechanism for my malabsorptive model. I'm going to have to face this, and adopt an exclusion diet, to settle the question.

I'm probably on the road in just a few hours. Catch ya later.

Lar

 

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