Posted by email@example.com on August 28, 2001, at 3:22:21
In reply to Re: Doesage of Adrafinil - all, posted by JohnL on June 17, 2000, at 17:52:50
To members: I apologize for my unnessary and
unfriendly comments in my earlier post.
(BTW, some follow posts give me a box too short
for my email name so I reply to certain ones
that give a box with enought letters in it, sorry
for confusion caused by that).
Mainly just the dose is keeping down Nardil related
sexual side effects in my case. Dose is related
to weight and my weight is about 200 at 6'3".
Nardil 60 alone gives me only barely noticable
effects, and adding Klonopin probably reverses
I will add that I've been taking 1.25 finasteride
(ie; Propecia) for hair loss for several years.
I've gone lower or off at times and I can tell
that probably I'd have absolutely no sexual side
(or overall prosexual) effects if I dropped
finasteride. I guess I'd
rather not go bald right now, who knows maybe I'll
change my mind one day. I'm pretty certain
efficacy of my SP regimen goes down some too
with the addition of finasteride. Vanity !
Finasteride raises testoterone, but lowers
dihydrotestorone by a greater percentage. They
are (I read), the 2 most potent male hormones.
I feel that some psychotropics mediate these
and other hormones. Provigil and Wellbutrin,
are 2 prosexual (at least for me, both clearly
enhance libido, and Wellbutrin enhances every
aspect of sexual response), meds that also reverse part or
most (positive and negative) aspects of my
finasteride as well. !! I was not surpirsed
to see the post of the female mentioing that
Provigil was not recommended for use with
Also, Klonopin increases my libido and
agression, as does Provigil. Nardil really does
not at 60mg,
but on the other hand also does not sap my energy
and libido the way that Celexa 20mg, Paxil 30mg,
and Zoloft 50mg does.
In the last year it has been humbling to realize
for me to realize that probably the biggest
factor reducing overall satisfaction of my
treatment has been my hormone altering hair loss
> To Craig:
> > Now I keep Nardil at 60 and augment. Keeps
> > side effects minimal, sexual side effects no
> > problem. Results good.
> What do you think was the key element in reducing the sexual side effects from Nardil?
> To Joe Schmoe:
> >It sounds like the problems Nardil causes are in the body while the benefits are in the brain.
> Many, if not most, of the physically-expressed side effects are probably brain-driven, as in a stroke victim who can write fluently but has trouble speaking -- even though the muscles that control speech are intact.
> To Mitch -
> I hadn't heard anything about the Parnate or Nardil patches. That would be great for a lot of people. If the MAOI never enters the gut, I belive there's no chance for tyramine inhibition.
> I know that a poster here, Adam, was in the clinical trials for a selegiline patch (at high doses which would necessitate food restrictions if taken orally).
> To me the most exciting news is the phase II (or is it III) trials of the reversible (no food restrictions, ostensibly low-side-effect) MAOI befloxatone. So far it is reported to be about as effective as Nardil, and much more effective than the currently=marketed reversible MAOI moclobemide.