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Re: pizza & beer :-)

Posted by Adam on October 18, 1999, at 13:59:11

In reply to pizza & beer :-), posted by Elizabeth on October 15, 1999, at 20:52:35


> Same article. Not too many people are looking into this, alas.

It really is too bad. The money just isn't there, I would imagine.

> Hey, there are some good American beers. FWIW, only a couple of rather odd European ones are known to have caused problems. Which ones do you like? (I'd still avoid tap beer.)

Oh, of course. It's just that, in order of goodness, bad beer bottled

> I think I've posted this before, but here's the things-to-avoid list that I use:
>
> -aged cheeses
> -tap beer
> -aged/air-dried meat, poultry, and fish
> -sauerkraut
> -broad beans [I think it's just the pods that are a problem but I'm not 100% sure]
> -banana peels
> -concentrated yeast extracts (this mainly refers to marmite and bovril, neither of which is used in the U.S.)
> -meat, poultry, or fish that may have been stored improperly (sometimes a tough call)

Boy, I'll miss sinking my teeth into a good banana peel.

> I don't really get "drunk" as such. I just get sleepy. I haven't had much to drink since college, and it's almost exclusively been wine. I'm not sure how the Parnate has affected my response to alcohol, but here's a story: when I was taking Nardil, my PPD converted and I had to go on isoniazid for 6 months. Isoniazid is pretty hepatotoxic, and between that and the Nardil I just decided to forgo alcohol altogether for that period. When I went off the INH, I decided to celebrate (conveniently, it was the weekend of a well-known annual party known as "bar golf"). Much to my surprise, the etoh had little to no effect on me that I could identify (though I didn't test my coordination or anything). The amount I drank ordinarily would have had me under the table (I'm kinda small).

Interesting. I had about the same response to Remeron. I figured my sensitivity to EtOH would be greater on that, but found to my suprise that I could put away large amounts by even my
standards and felt just fine. A couple weeks after (definitely) starting selegiline, I drank what was a moderate amount for me and had the rather embarassing experience of blacking out,
meaning I said and did things that night that I had no recollection of even after being told. This is not something that has happened since I was in college, and even there, despite the
insane amounts I and just about everyone around me consumed, that happened only twice. I found this very disturbing, and have since been very careful about how much I consume. And it seems
very clear, even without this unhappy occurrance: less is more these days. A subsequent discussion with my doctor (in which he scolded me for drinking much at all, good guy that he is) has
lent credance to my observation: MAOIs can really enhance alcohol's effects.

I guess the result of all this is I'm happier, more responsible, and I spend less at the bar. All in all, things could be worse.


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