Posted by pej on March 8, 1999, at 7:44:01
In reply to Re: Skeptic about antidepressants and therapy..., posted by David on March 8, 1999, at 6:18:46
> Dear David,
Seems you have found a soulmate with Dumbo..I'm sorry, Gringo. Why not come back in a year and let me know how your "therapy" is going.
Also Dumbo, who are you to assume to know what I have read or done?
> Hi Gringo,
> >
> > for obvious reasons you posted the anonymous
> > message, so I haven't got your e-mail address.
> > Anyway, if you come across this site one day
> > again, please read this message and send me your
> > e-mail to rd_david@hotmail.com.
> > I think we've got a lot to talk about/discuss.
> > (On the other hand, you might say, what's more
> > there to discuss...?)
> > I definitely have read the Adventure of Self
> > Discovery as well as Cosmic Game by Stan Grof
> > and I am also currently reading
> > LSD Psychotherapy... as well as E is for Ecstasy
> > by Nicholas Saunders... (Chapter 9: The use of
> > MDMA in psychotherapy in Swithzerland)...
> > which of course is a thing
> > that you don't come up with in the first place
> > when you're posting a message to this babble for
> > the first time...
> >
> > Send me your address for sure. Thanks.
> >
> > David
> >
> > PS: Did you know that here in the Netherlands you
> > could LEGALLY get psychedelic mushrooms (just like
> > weed)? I am looking for THE right therapist...
> >
> > > Hello there,
> > >
> > > I wrote quite a long post here but now decided to delete it and send you only the
> > > core of it.
> > > TODAY's TREATMENT OF DEPRESSION IS ABSOLUTELLY SHALLOW
> > > IF YOU'RE(ALL) TO GET RID OF YOUR DEPRESSION YOU NEED TO GO TO THE DEEPEST ROOTS OF YOUR SELF
> > >
> > > One of the most frequent advices here is to try one med after another until there's the "right" one...
> > > To get rid of depression means usually to do something for it, to study about it, to get to know about it as much as possible,
> > > I am surprised none of you ever mentioned one pill (together with psychotherapy) which is one of the
> > > most powerfull and has the ability to bring you to your roots, I am talking about lsd which most of you
> > > know only as a prohibited substance but only a few of you ever read books like "LSD psychotherapy" or
> > > "LSD - Problem solving substance"... which you can find on Internet. There are also other ways to get to
> > > the origin of the problem but that means usually to face YOURSELF "NAKED" and release that tremendous pressure which you
> > > bear deep within yourselves. Get the facts, don't judge like propaganda, demand the right psychotherapy for you. There were
> > > depressions before there are now, what's the progress? New meds which nobody knows how they work, but well, they do sell well...however,
> > > this wasn't meant to say this.
> > >
> > > David, I'd say there's enough power in you to walk into other psychotherapist's door
> > > who knows lots about Grof's attitude and you *might* be successful in persuading him
> > > about psychedelic therapy if you will not be willing to undergone
> > > holotropic therapy...anyway, you must come home first..
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > >
> > > Bradda
poster:pej
thread:3400
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