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Re: Skeptic about antidepressants and therapy...

Posted by Gringo on March 8, 1999, at 4:46:09

In reply to Skeptic about antidepressants and therapy..., posted by David on March 4, 1999, at 12:13:31

> Hello everybody,
> I have been mildly depressed for a long long time,
> without actually knowing it. But it seems to me
> that it has been forever.
> But last year I had two bouts of severe depression in
> late spring and then again in winter. I could not make
> myself go and seek professional advice, hesitating all
> the time, "lingering on the edge," looking for excuses
> all the time (look there, it's not so bad, pull yourself
> together, there're lots and lots of other people that
> suffer much more... and stuff like that).
> Finally I managed somehow to walk into a psychologist's
> room, it was about the time, when my suffering lasted
> for about 2 months and I could no longer pretend that
> everything's fine with me (you know, all your friends
> asking "how are you?" and you saying with a warm
> smile "fine, thank you" but deep inside longing to
> scream to the world "miserable!!!").
> The psycholigist sent me to a psychiatrist to have some
> medication prescribed since I was to leave my home
> country to study in the Netherlands temporarily.
> I received a diagnosis of major depressive disorder,
> anxiety, depersonalization, derealization, and a few
> other things that I could not understand.
> The psychiatrist gave me Zoloft 50mg, twice a day and
> Lexaurin 1.5mg (Bromazepamum), a total dose of 3mg a
> day. At the same time he said that my depression
> has its roots in the structure of my personality, my
> character. And he added that a psychotherapy for me
> would be difficult and complicated.
> I had been skeptical about medicines for depression as
> well as any kind of conventional psychotherapy before,
> although never actually tried them (I had always
> really doubted that they could be of any help to me...
> maybe I had some kind of prejudice...? I don't know.)
> and now the psychiatrist, although being honest,
> even enhanced these worries in me!
> I have been on Zoloft and Lexaurin for 2 months now,
> I can see a slight improvement (I have enough energy
> to pretend again that everything's all right...) but
> very often I slip into despair as to whether there
> really is any kind of help for me? Any positive vision
> of the future, I mean bright future? I don't know...
> I have a very intense feeling that these antidepressant
> drugs just suppress the underlying causes of the
> state of my mental health without really "removing"
> them. Maybe the most severe symptoms disappear so I
> can get through a day somehow...
> But I am sure I do not want to switch to any other
> kind of pills and then to some other pills and on
> and on... and although in psychotherapy it might
> be nice to have an opportunity to talk to somebody
> (especially when my social life is and has for a long
> time been virtually non-existent), I don't believe
> I can make any progress.
> What do you think?
> Thank you that you have endured to read up to this
> point.
> Good luck to everyone,
> David

Hello there,

I wrote quite a long post here but now decided to delete it and send you only the
core of it.

One of the most frequent advices here is to try one med after another until there's the "right" one...
To get rid of depression means usually to do something for it, to study about it, to get to know about it as much as possible,
I am surprised none of you ever mentioned one pill (together with psychotherapy) which is one of the
most powerfull and has the ability to bring you to your roots, I am talking about lsd which most of you
know only as a prohibited substance but only a few of you ever read books like "LSD psychotherapy" or
"LSD - Problem solving substance"... which you can find on Internet. There are also other ways to get to
the origin of the problem but that means usually to face YOURSELF "NAKED" and release that tremendous pressure which you
bear deep within yourselves. Get the facts, don't judge like propaganda, demand the right psychotherapy for you. There were
depressions before there are now, what's the progress? New meds which nobody knows how they work, but well, they do sell well...however,
this wasn't meant to say this.

David, I'd say there's enough power in you to walk into other psychotherapist's door
who knows lots about Grof's attitude and you *might* be successful in persuading him
about psychedelic therapy if you will not be willing to undergone
holotropic therapy...anyway, you must come home first..






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