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Posted by alexandra_k on August 30, 2017, at 0:13:46
So I really have come around to the idea of surgery being a last resort. What happens when everything else has failed.
The social stuff has failed and so there got to be a medical problem. And then the medical care / management / treatment failed.
So... Nothing left to be done but cut it off. Otherwise... The necrosis will slowly spread...
And it's just so freaking sad that it gets to that point.
And the thing about the will to live...
Our Dean said something sensible in the paper (which was nice to see). He said that the trouble with some communities is that... People don't want to live in those communities. And of course that's right. Doctors don't want to live there. And of course neither do most of the other people living in them. I mean, you have a few people who are in charge who are revelling at their good fortune of being in charge... But you have a whole heap of others who are powerless...
And sometimes the only power you have is the power of whether you live or you die. And that is why a bunch of people decide to die. Because they have had enough. And that's the only power they have, really.
And sometimes that's why people don't present for treatment. I've only exceptionally very rarely had clinicians say that they were going to tell me what my options were. Typically it was their way or it was the highway. So there, again, the power you have is the power to... Leave it. That's right.
The foot thing makes me mad... Because there are things you can do to help the blood flow. Massage. I don't know why it is... But if you ask someone to touch their toes they think they aren't allowed to bend their knees. But of course that's what knees are for! Get people sitting down cross-legged. Fix their dodgey hip at the same time!
We played with our feet in sand-boxes at tech. And walking (very gently does it) on pebbles. Learning to walk (very gently does it) without shoes. The little stabilisers in your back get working... The muscles around your knee...
There is something about feet... There are lots of nerves in them... Lots of muscles. 1/4 of the bodies muscles?
More than that... Something something about Jesus washing the dusty feet of travellers. Something... Humbling. Self nurturing. About caring for your own feet. Not of checking them... Like something alien... But actually... Taking those shoes off and waking them up. Getting them... Feeling again.
The daft shoe prescriptions that we have for those daft rocker shoes... Ankylosis is inevitable therefore assume the f'd up posture already...
It's almost like... People are doing everything they can to bring about gangrenous foot. Health and saftey laws that mean you aren't allowed to exercise your feet in gyms... The shoe people that purport to sell *prescription* shoes. That ACC funds for people with Diabetes etc that get them thinking rocker shoes are good for them that only serve to hasten the demise...
I feel like it is exploiting people. That the people don't get proper information about what to do to look after they feet. And *why* aka: Because a diabetic sore might become gangrenous in which case someone will have to cut the foot off.
Uh. Can I do it?
That feels weird... I'm not sure about that...
I feel like... It is one thing when a person has been broken by someone else and then you try and fix it (e.g., road trauma people)... It is something else to break them yourself - in the hope they will grow back better or stronger somehow. I mean... I have just started thinking about cancer surgeries... Fetch! And a bit more... But then gangrenous feet... It is just so sad that things get to that.
I guess more so when you consider 'options' for prosthesis...
Posted by alexandra_k on August 30, 2017, at 0:39:07
In reply to gangrenous foot, posted by alexandra_k on August 30, 2017, at 0:13:46
I suppose it is it's own prosthesis, of sorts. If it isn't spreading. I guess it is much the same as everything else... What does the patient want to do about that (if anything)?
And that is precisely not the case with trauma / accident when there isn't time / the person is doped up already.
Posted by baseball55 on August 30, 2017, at 20:25:20
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by alexandra_k on August 30, 2017, at 0:39:07
I'm confused here, Alex. Is this a metaphor or is your foot gangrenous?
Posted by alexandra_k on August 31, 2017, at 1:22:29
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by baseball55 on August 30, 2017, at 20:25:20
ah. no, it's about my aspiration to become an orthopedic trauma surgeon. or an orthopedic surgeon. or a trauma surgeon. or... something.
i read in the paper today that some poor person got their hand caught in a... dough machine. apparently. no idea what that is. anyway, the firemen were first on scene and apparently the party line was 'your hand's coming out of there - whether you like it or not!'
and i thought to myself... that if that was me... i would be like 'why the hurry? there a fire, or something? can we wait for the surgeon??'
but... what would i know...
Posted by alexandra_k on August 31, 2017, at 1:43:35
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot » baseball55, posted by alexandra_k on August 31, 2017, at 1:22:29
Where are you, Baseball? You don't have to answer (of course) and I understand if you don't... But I'm curious about what state / city you are from.
Posted by baseball55 on September 1, 2017, at 19:20:47
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by alexandra_k on August 31, 2017, at 1:43:35
> Where are you, Baseball? You don't have to answer (of course) and I understand if you don't... But I'm curious about what state / city you are from.
I live in Boston, MA, USA. State/city that has never majority-voted for a Republican for president. Tons of colleges and students. Very left wing/liberal (in US sense). I teach economics at a local college.
People refer to city and some of the surrounding suburbs as "the socialist republic of ...."
So that's my story.
Posted by alexandra_k on September 1, 2017, at 21:00:51
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by baseball55 on September 1, 2017, at 19:20:47
Thanks for sharing :-)
I know Economics is a broad field... I hope you know I don't disrespect you or your field. I just have a bit of a hard time with the Economics i've learned over the years / the Economists I've interacted with (mostly management undergraduates and government employees to be fair).
Trying to make sense of things...
I think there is this assumption that people should take what they can for as long as they can because they can. This idea that they are smarter than others because they saw the opportunity. So this belief that if they didn't take that opportunity then someone else would have taken it instead of them. So the harms to all would be the same and that only leaves the benefit to them being up for grabs and they did see the opportunity first...
And then perhaps some kind of enlightenment... Seeing that it isn't necessarily that they are smarter for seeing opportunities... It might well be about luck... But either way, other people are similarly going about their business in the world searching out these opportunities to get ahead on the great hierarchy of life...
I have been thinking a lot about opression. About groups of people being kept in oppressive environments. Thinking about how those in charge can justify that to themselves. I am starting to see that oppressed people don't complain so much. They tend to think that their problems are due to faults of themselves rather than due to others getting rich off of the exploitation of their environment...
I think... Why does the radio constantly broadcast these innane whiny victim songs... And copious amounts of advertising. This is blasted over loudspeakers in public spaces. I think... Why does the government allow people to visibly drink and marjuana smoke their lives away... Who profits? I think... What is in the water supply? Is it just me or do the people even look weedy and sick? Who profits?
When I lived in North Carolina I thought that people were very polite and that that was part of 'southern hospitality'. People stood up for me when I got on the bus to make sure I had a nice seat. People always held the door for me. People often said 'after you mam' and let me go ahead of them in the cue. It was later that I was told that the last was because they didn't want to be served by a black check-out operator. I remember feeling... Sad sad sad... At the surprise and gratitude and... Almost fear... When I held the door for the next guy - and the next guy happened to be black. Mostly black people took the bus.
When I lived in Auckland I thought that it wasn't very safe for me to take the bus. The people would jostle me and bump into me and paw at me. And I did find myself wondering... Whether people needed the sh*t kicked out of them so they learned to back off... Or whether there really might be another f*ck*ng way.
This idea of... If you keep the people oppressed... Well... That's because you saw the opportunity to oppress them and so you do for as long as you can because you can. And this is justified because... If they got the opportunity to oppress you... They would. Like the Auckland bus thing... Which was *fun* for them. They liked to bounce off of each other, you see.
Did they?
Some of them clearly did... If you looked like you weren't having a good time you were surely the target for 'special treatment'...
The amount of investment... That's the thing, really, isn't it... The amount of investment that goes into aspects of civilisation... If you can't see that the requirements on a high level ballet dancer or chess player or symphony orchestra musical piece are more resource intensive *by their very nature* than certain other forms of sport or music or art then... The *carry over*. Once upon a time... So you think you can dance... The technically trained dancers were most highly prized because the level of body control you develop carries over in a way that the converse does not...
At various points various things have been invested here... But not very much. Because, lets face it, the investors have their own problems, back home, and why the hell invest in all the way down here for? Why would you do that? Things aren't very good here...
Rebound phenomena... That's a made up word with the wrong connotations but I can't think of a better one...
I think I was around 6 months in Aussie before I fell apart, rather. I think it was like... How sometimes people deteriorate on hospital admission when you expect that the hospitalisation would see them improve for the better environment. Then... Well... It's about how when the situation improves, sometimes, there is a bit of a falling apart as... As you have the luxury for that to happen, if that makes sense. The trauma stuff of where I'd been came to the fore because things were safer now. Because I got out, got away, I could see that a bunch of stuff that happened to me was not okay. And I grieved for that a bit and spent a bunch of time going 'what am I doing here? I don't belong. Why did I deserve to get out while other people just like me are stuck back there?' and so on... And I did come right... Well... I did start producing work... Even in the face of everyone continually telling me it was rubbish rubbish rubbish (which was right when you consider all the amazing work that the best people in their field are doing middle career / before retirement)... But I started to see that talking talking talking to the converted was... Well... Shuffling the bits of paper around... (Because my work sucked)... And then it got harder and harder and harder for me to do it. But I actually was very productive... Objectively... The quality and quantity of my work output for someone at that stage of their career...
It is important to me... That it was not the case that when my environment was perfectly suited to working... I didn't work. I actually did work a lot. I got more and more reluctant to show that work to people. And then I did stop working, yes. The gym instead. I worked very hard in the gym. And then in hospitality...
I don't have much time right now...
Rebound phenomenon... That is important to me.
When I get the odd little bonus (that I get sometimes) I waste it on alcohol or rubbish like that. Because the odd little bonus (that I get sometimes) is only enough to get something like that. When I have more... It takes a few weeks / months before you start to relax into it... To see opportunities that you could do with that. That if you wait for a couple weeks you could invest in this thing... And then... The drinking actually stops. It has. For me. In that environment.
This is because I'm seriously thinking about 'power corrupts' and about whether it would corrupt me. Why / why not?
And the environment. You need to set that up properly. So... if you want to eat healthy then only have healthy food in the house. It might be possible to do the 'in moderation' thing on junk food - but I really think that it's just easier to detox from it and don't look back. But, of course, that only works in an environment when the people around you aren't in the position where they would rather you eat the rubbish they choose to live off or... They'd happily murder you in your sleep...
Dogs are better than people.
Except the people who you would trust enough... To tell that to. Of course.
Rebound phenomenon.
I need to be careful... When I start to feel a little bit validated... I need to be careful... It's just the rebound phenomenon thing and it really will pass... But it won't ever get the chance to pass if people think they are getting to know my character and not just experiencing rebound phenomenon...
Nobody likes a person who feels entitled... Nobody likes a person who rages at past injustices (against their own person). Everybody likes to feel smarter and kinder than everybody else...
I really just need to work. 2 Months of my life... Working working work... As best I can...
I don't have time to edit. Sorry...
Things really are sh*tty for a lot of people here. A lot of good people here. There are good people here. There are an awful lot of not good people here, though, too. People who think that they need to take what they can for as long as they can... These people are the majority...
Their vision of the world... The future of the world... The future of our species...
It's so very short sighted. Frontal lobe deficient. To the detriment of us all... They can't see...
Posted by alexandra_k on September 1, 2017, at 21:22:00
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by alexandra_k on September 1, 2017, at 21:00:51
My Dad was a builder. I remember when I was young on Sunday he would take us for a drive through the new building subdivisions where he worked. Suburbia... Starting to hit upon the city limits.
I remember him saying that... People were building bigger homes than they could afford. They were building 5 or 6 bedroom family homes and couldn't really afford that... They could only really afford 2 or 3... I remember him saying that they were starting out mortgaged up to the hilt and... Well...
The whole thing would hit a bottleneck. You needed the electrition to come and get something done before the inspector would visit and sign it off and nothing could be done until then. And delays... Cost money. Time where people are standing around. About how when things are costed you costed in things working to schedule and not days where you needed to pay builders to stand around waiting for the electrition to show up... Days waiting for when the building inspector was next able to come to sign off on the next thing... But people started out mortgaged up to the hilt.
Sometimes he would show us things they were doing - with genuine pride. One of the places had a stone slab floor with under-floor heating. Another house had an interesting architect design. But mostly it was kitset homes, yeah. And mostly, he was lamenting that the people couldn't really afford to build their homes.
Later there were all kinds of problems reported with houses that were built around that time. That they leaked, primarily. That corners were cut on quality of building materials... Corners were cut... To the point where people ended up with leaky homes that were damaging to their health. Homes that were rotting around them.
My Dad was doing up his own home. Renovating a semi-character. Put far more money into doing it up (and far more time and care) than he would ever get back for it in any kind of property market. Totally idiotic things from that point of view... Turning a 3 bedroom house into a 2 bedroom house - with a larger master bedroom and an en suite bathroom. Quality fittings. Brass door knobs. Native timber wood that he paint stripped back and lightly varnished. I remember he had friends who were electritions and plumbers and so on... They would spend half a day working on each others houses...
But then I think it was less about working on their own houses that they were living in and more about working on their cheap investment buy that they wanted to surface renovate only to flick on quickly for a profit. He never got into doing that. In fact... I think he stopped being a part of things when it was 'volunteer work' towards such ends... Maybe because it wasn't a joy when people weren't taking pride in their work, anymore. Maybe it was that. Taking advantage of people who didn't know the piles were about to give out, or were only propped up precariously, or whatever.
I remember him lamenting the demise of the apprenticeship system... About how these kids would do 3 years at tech before arriving on the building site. And then it turned out they couldn't hit a nail into a piece of wood straight. And then it turned out they couldn't turn up to the job on time each day. Either because they didn't have the transport or they couldn't figure out the transport or because they didn't have an alarm clock or... It doesn't matter why. Point is that they were mostly only sending on unsuitable kids.
Where do all the suitable kids go?
Someplace to be kicked around... I'm sure...
Posted by alexandra_k on September 2, 2017, at 2:59:23
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by baseball55 on September 1, 2017, at 19:20:47
Thanks for sharing. Yeah, I guess people take economics for a bunch of reasons. And... Generally... If you want to help make a situation better and if you want to profiteer from the situation... Either way... It helps to try and understand what is going on...
I was just thinking that the trouble with building playgrounds for free... Is that it (might be viewed as) taking work away from honest people. I mean... The school would probably have found the money from somewhere to build a playground if it hadn't gone and gotten built for free.
So... There is incentive for people to undermine charity work that is... Any kind of approximation of work. In the best case because it is taking work away from honest people. In the worst case because it makes dishonest people look bad.
Thinking about the electrition bottleneck. I suppose you sort of go 'hmm... we made xxx profit from the electrition arriving a day after shedule...' and just sort of filing that information away. And then when you are providing a quote to someone sort of being in the back of your mind about whether you should tell them you think the electrition might be planning on taking that day off as part of a week over school holidays or... Nah... They'll find that out soon enough... and then... cutting back the working hours on your electrition so he's always running a few days behind... And it's an 'opportunity', I suppose. And if all the other building firms are doing it and one isn't then one will always be undercut on price and lose all the work.
And you end up with a big mess of a situation.
Someone was saying about getting free insulation from a building site that was only going to be thrown away... And I felt upset about that. Because... Somebody paid for it. Somewhere along the way. At the very least... A school classroom could have been insulated... What gives you the right to take for yourself? An opportunity?
I went to a talk about global warming... Trying to get air conditioning into these large sweatshop factories... People don't want to invest in that for their employees so people are trying to help the situation by saying that installing air conditioning will result in increased productivity from their employees so as to be cost-effective (because humane things never incentivised anything). How that wasn't believed. How they wanted to install one in one of the factories to show them. How that wasn't allowed. The reason being that the employees that didn't get the air conditioning would be jealous...
Suppose you manage to get some sort of habitat for humanity building site up off the ground where volunteers manage to assemble kitset homes... Who would get those homes? Other people would be jealous... Some people worked hard for their home - other people should just get homes for free?
How to incentivise things that are good... That's a pretty big deal, seems to me... And how to get in with a group making a good honest living... Something where... Good interests seem to align. Tis a hard thing, indeed. The hardest? Possibly...
And then it's probably frequency dependent so once people start to notice you are onto a good thing it will rapidly be undermined (even if peoples intentions are good rather than merely to profiteer from it)... It probably is about small groups... Where there is some kind of bonding / where the cost of defection makes defection not really an option. I guess that is the idea of a family business... Or bonding apprentices. I wanted to learn motorcycle maintenence. The tech should run a short course over the summer on how to change your oil and stuff. Only... That would do the local mechanics out of a job. So...
The apprentice who is too stupid to see what is going on with the electrical hold up... Is more valuable than the one who asks too many questions...
Sigh.
Do you study this sort of stuff in economics? I don't realy feel that I understand about money, at all. I guess... It's social history, really. I don't know any of this...
Posted by baseball55 on September 2, 2017, at 18:01:40
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot » baseball55, posted by alexandra_k on September 2, 2017, at 2:59:23
> Do you study this sort of stuff in economics? I don't realy feel that I understand about money, at all. I guess... It's social history, really. I don't know any of this...
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Mostly, I do what's called "macroeconomics." What causes unemployment and recessions, what governments can do, how central banks operate, international financial relations (trade balances, exchange rates - things like that). I have done work in two "micro" fields (micro focuses on individual markets, incentives, etc. - some of what you've written about) - (1) health care systems and (2) the economic issues facing state and local governments.I am not offended by your (initial) negative response to economics. It can be a weird, hyper-mathematical, right-wing field and people are radically different in their approaches and pedagogy in introductory courses. Many people have boring, over-analytical professors. Often when I tell people I teach economics, their response is - "Oh, that was the only course I failed in college" or "I took an economics course and hated it."
But I'm a good teacher and teach interesting courses (not bragging, my student evaluations average 4.8 out of 5.0). With a good teacher, economics can be the most interesting course you'll ever take.
Posted by alexandra_k on September 2, 2017, at 21:17:53
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot » alexandra_k, posted by baseball55 on September 2, 2017, at 18:01:40
Okay. I have never done any courses in the economics department, at all. I am sure you are a good teacher :-)
I was thinking about this honest living thing...
Maybe that is a luxury that is supposed to be afforded to the rich. A perk of being rich, or something like that.
If you sell your soul / the souls of the people around you and accumulate enough wealth me-wards... You have the opportunity (that many people then squander / don't figure out) to offer a better life for your kid/s. To really make sure they are only around people who are kind to them and who don't bully them and so on...
Then they might grow up with love in their hearts for humanity (operating under the assumption everyone is good and loving and kind) and go on to... Work hard out of the goodness of their hearts...
Like how Carter chose to study medicine and become a doctor and volunteer in africa and then come home and help manage the family wealth (charity for the tax breaks) and build a new wing on the hospital...
Haha.
I don't like living like this. Some bitch told me it was only supposed to be temporary. I didn't think at the time: I'm on disability, lady. That's supposed to be a life sentence. I'm supposed to go on about how lucky I am that I get more than most students do. My lot was never supposed to be temporary.
The bail outs are coming on insulating (too little too late) those 5 or 6 bedroom homes (that have been sold to people who chose to have 12 or 13). Because it's cheaper than dealing with their repeated E.R appearances as the kids airways and immune system and heart valves get all wrecked by the mould spores and marjuana smoke and it's pretty sad already since the mother often drank and smoked through pregnancies...
My Father... I'm his only child. But he smoked himself to death and my step-mother... Well... I know from experience that she doesn't think I should get hand-outs but she has demonstrated generosity when it comes to her own kids. So... He really didn't seem to look out for his own interests at all... Or... He never came to the party when it came to my interests, at all... Maybe a little before he met her, but, whatever. I don't really know his deal, at all... Point is that she has the house now. And she will likely lose everything she has got in exchange for a place in a retirement institution. Which they will sell her as this lovely home... In order to seize her assets. Likely the same thing will happen to my Mother...
It's all institutions over here. The housing that approximates WHO standards on habitability. Either people own their own homes AND investment property or they have nothing at all... It's all institutions over here. I guess we are the most experimented on English Speaking nation in the developed world. Since we are last place in that and all... Gotta train the newbies and send the psychopaths somewhere...
I didn't ask to be born.
I am tired of living like this.
I don't want to move up the hill next year. It's a bunch of things that are unimportant to me 'wow I made it in life! I have a corner of a castle!' I have to share a bathroom with how many others? A laundry with how many others? How many processed mystery meals will I be fed? Do you wash the poison spray of the bitter herb salad you pull out of the plastic containers, at all, or... Let me guess... 'It's only temporary'. The 'beyond security' swipe card doors that will all open when the battery is removed...
Otherwise it's no security latches on windows. TV blaring from the person next door. Couple working their way up to murder suicide down the hall... Rooms in boarding houses where 5 students all end up sharing a double room and cluttering their filth everywhere (tragedy of commons).
This is supposed to be incentive structure on getting people to work? I just don't buy that. I have lived nicer places and it's so much easier to work when you live in a nicer environment. So who profits, really?
It's the same board. Church board. For the tax breaks. Charity. Not even a farmer co-op or much local produce...
I hate it here.
Posted by alexandra_k on September 2, 2017, at 21:22:04
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by alexandra_k on September 2, 2017, at 21:17:53
12 or 13... Because they lived, you see. Plunket organisation over here really got that infant mortality right down. All those infants that probably would have been let go (little too much oxygen deprivation, lungs a little too immature) were saved. Surfactant smeared around (or various kinds of inhalants) and, well... Just look where things are at, now.
Who profits?
Posted by alexandra_k on September 2, 2017, at 22:19:38
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by alexandra_k on September 2, 2017, at 21:22:04
sigh.
i'm sorry. i'm just getting near the end of the year... a couple big tests this coming week and labs and so on... next couple months...
partly it's because i'm getting stressed... and what is best for me through the stress is solitude. but solitude is precisely what i don't have. and other people deal with stress by becoming more gregarious. so. listening to 12+ hours of white noise everyday upsets my vestibular system and makes my brain unhappy. the sound of abused children over the fence from 8:30am for much of every day also makes my brain unhappy. i don't think it is my imagination (though maybe it is) that the food is getting worse... more processed... and i've come to realise that the head of the hall here... doesn't have 'repeat back to me what i just said' kind of functionality... certainly isn't placed to be defending our interests... and then most of the kids here didn't make entry to university... they are here on some international program... sent by countries where we tried to poison kids in those countries (milk powder contamination with poision that made the protein content look higher on nutrient profiling). and now we've turned to poisoning our own, i'm sure. it's only supposed to be temporary... unless you didn't get out... in which case you deserve what you get, i'm sure.
getting away from the awful people. whoop whoop whoop. i don't know what to say. i feel like i was only put on this earth to suffer torment for much of the time. pretty sure when i was a kid i always screamed silently. maybe not. suicide rates in this country... some lives really are not worth living, at all. it's a sad thing... it's actually a rational position. psychiatry... i'm starting to think szasz was mostly right... but... there is no help here. so all that's left is a form of control... you have dementia, of course you do, studies show people are happier* (TM we own the copyright on that standardized assessment test) when they are all free range in open plan institutions. it's culturally appropriate, hey!
Posted by alexandra_k on September 2, 2017, at 22:39:42
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by alexandra_k on September 2, 2017, at 22:19:38
and normally i would go to the gym and then i would feel better only the gym here does not make me feel better because they put a bunch of idiots in charge who interrupt me to say that i'm not allowed to do this, that, or the other thing. because, you know, they did 3 degrees in personal training and they can't see what i'm doing might be good for since it isn't on any of the exercise posters they have seen...
(because they want to strike up a conversation and become my friend and bullying people about is a surefire way of making friends).
Posted by Pontormo on September 5, 2017, at 6:59:05
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot » alexandra_k, posted by baseball55 on September 2, 2017, at 18:01:40
I've always found economics fascinating and important,although I never studied it,, since I went to an "artsy" college that downgraded the dismal sciences (plural-- finding all of them dismal) and upgraded things like dance, theater, writing, etc-- which I now greatly regret.
My partner is a lawyer who does a lot of economics in his work and is very well read, having done some writing in the area of law and economics,. I find him to be one of the most enlightening people you could imagine to talk to about the state of the world. I've learned many ways of considering problems that I would never have known of.
I wish I could take one of your classes, baseball55.
By the way he loves the Yankees--I'm also a fan, but not as obsessively-- are you a red sox fan? of course we have to be bitter enemies if you are, unfortunately.
Posted by Pontormo on September 5, 2017, at 7:02:39
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by Pontormo on September 5, 2017, at 6:59:05
just renaming the thread for my prior post which doesn't address alex's topic
Posted by baseball55 on September 5, 2017, at 17:54:53
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by Pontormo on September 5, 2017, at 6:59:05
> By the way he loves the Yankees--I'm also a fan, but not as obsessively-- are you a red sox fan? of course we have to be bitter enemies if you are, unfortunately.
I'm not big on sports. A fair-weather fan of the Sox (I watch if they make the playoffs or world series). People are cool about the Yankees until championships are on the line. Then they get crazy.I never understood that level of fandom. It's just as bad in the rest of the world with crazy soccer brawls.
Posted by Pontormo on September 7, 2017, at 6:49:07
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by baseball55 on September 5, 2017, at 17:54:53
Well it is silly, but I've come to the conclusion that the Red Sox are evil incarnate and we must beat them in order for good to remain in the universe.
And they must not win the division.
(jk... mostly)
Posted by baseball55 on September 7, 2017, at 18:02:18
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by Pontormo on September 7, 2017, at 6:49:07
> Well it is silly, but I've come to the conclusion that the Red Sox are evil incarnate and we must beat them in order for good to remain in the universe.
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> And they must not win the division.
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> (jk... mostly)I guess there are plenty of people around here who feel that way about the Yankees!
Posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2017, at 2:34:31
In reply to Re: gangrenous foot, posted by baseball55 on September 7, 2017, at 18:02:18
Sports can be entertaining. I was very entertained by the superbowl. Especially the commercials.
Sad to hear that there have been weather problems for the south. I remember the boards around the time of Katrina. Relieved to discover a friend and his family in Mexico are okay after reading about Mexico City having troubles, too.
I forget, sometimes, that the rest of the world has it's own problems to be busying themselves about.
I'm glad you guys are still here.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 6, 2017, at 1:59:36
In reply to Re: sports and the weather, posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2017, at 2:34:31
I just got 90% on my last public health test F*CK YEAH!!!
I needed it after doing really badly in the first one... Now only 1% below an A- going into the exam...
Phew.
I so gotta meet GPA requirement and public health seems to not like me so very much...
The test felt *SO MUCH BETTER* than the first one. Questions were conceptual / understanding based rather than a number of calculations after a mass of prose. There was plenty of time to go through the whole exam twice (and a bit more).
Phew.
So many metabolic pathways... Phew....
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