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Posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 19:11:55
When you guys have anxiety, are the fears that you have irrational?
Posted by ClearSkies on September 12, 2005, at 19:27:21
In reply to Anxiety, posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 19:11:55
Anxiety causes big time irrational thinking for me - like I have a magnifying glass held to my brain, amplifying my concerns until they catch fire and consume me.
And anxiety always sneaks up on me - it's not usually situational. I hate it!
Posted by Phil on September 12, 2005, at 19:42:10
In reply to Anxiety, posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 19:11:55
Many times, if not most. I worry, you know. Worry, worry, worry.
Bad things don't happen to me--I just have disasters
and catastrophes.
Posted by javableue on September 12, 2005, at 19:56:42
In reply to Anxiety, posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 19:11:55
Usually. Though lately my causes for anxiety have been a little too justified for me to write off all my anxious thoughts that way. :-(
Posted by Phil on September 12, 2005, at 20:01:36
In reply to Re: Anxiety » lynn970, posted by javableue on September 12, 2005, at 19:56:42
Posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 20:26:45
In reply to Re: Anxiety » lynn970, posted by ClearSkies on September 12, 2005, at 19:27:21
That sounds exactly what happens to me. Later, when I am ok. I will look back at this and say, "I cant believe I was worried about that!!"
>And anxiety always sneaks up on me - it's not usually situational. I hate it!Is this a chemical imbalance?
Posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 20:29:35
In reply to Re: Anxiety » lynn970, posted by ClearSkies on September 12, 2005, at 19:27:21
I am wondering how much of it is chemical and how much of it is because living at My mom's house for 17 years was hell. "It was a damned if you do damned if you dont environment." Screaming and hollaring all the time. Physical and verbal abuse was apart of everyday life.
Posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 20:39:45
In reply to Re: Anxiety » lynn970, posted by ClearSkies on September 12, 2005, at 19:27:21
Most people that know me and my situation dont understand how I still talk to my mom. I know that she has a good side. She tells me she is sorry all the time for the way she raised me. Now she is on prozac, I can tolerate her better. I do forgive her. My sister who was the perfect queen, did not get the brunt of it. She tells me that I shouldnt blame my problems on my childhood. She did not experience what I experienced. Names like retarded, b#tch, and all kinds of bad names were used to refer to me by my mom. The name calling hurt more than the beatings. The beatings were b/c I had a bad report card. By the way, I went on to college and maintained dean's list status every semester except the ones in my freshmen year.
Part of me tells me that that was not abuse. Was it? Is this why I have trouble making decisions? Is this why I have a problem with anxiety? I know that I am ranting. Any thoughts on the matter would be helpful.
Oh, and I dont know why my mom said that when I grow up, I would be the biggest B#tch in town. The only man I have known intimitaly is my husband. I did not sleep around. Go figure?
Lots of love,
Lynn
Posted by spriggy on September 12, 2005, at 20:48:02
In reply to Re: Anxiety, posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 20:39:45
LOL
My mom and your mom must be some kind of identical twins seperated from birth.
I could've written your entire post (minus the perfect sister, my only sibling is a drug addict who sleeps around with anyone/everyone).My anxiety tends to be over health issues; what if I stop breathing suddenly (very likely to happen, ROFL)? What if someone kidnaps one of my kids'? What if a car drives erratically and runs into my house? What if God doesn't really exist and I've made all this up in my head? What if I am not really existing and this is some weird dream? What if *I* am really existing and everyone around me is actually a part of some strange part in this movie that's all about me (yeah, a pretty selfish fear, I'll admit),Etc..
So yes, as you can see, most of my anxiety issues are completely, utterly, and totally unrealistic but it's impossible for me to grasp that when I'm in the throws of the despair.
It's bad. I notice when I'm the most anxious, thoughts of death seem to always fill my mind.
I have no clue where I would be without God. If this is how nuts I am WITH Him, I'd hate to fathom where my life would be without Him. LOL
Posted by rjlockhart98 on September 12, 2005, at 21:03:49
In reply to Re: Anxiety, posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 20:39:45
Lynn,
I dont know about you but i would be beating the HELL out of my mom after what she's done to you. She would get some back lashes after she punched me, i would be tearing furniture at her, throw TV, the house would never be the same, get clorox bleach and threated to bleach all the furniture, lets see, turn up stero system to MAX and blow her ears out, then if she start to threated you psyhically, get those arms ready because someone is getting reading to get the HELL knocked out of them. And keep handy with you a can gasoline to throw on her.
Im sorry that had to happen to you, my dad was abusive to me i had symptoms of dissociation with harsh words. If my parents treated me like that they would be suffering. Bad.
My mom is abusive to my grandma, i hate to say it, she calls her terrible names. My mom is abusive to me in some ways thats why i have RAGED back at her.
Lynn sorry about the extreme, that just really made me mad about what your mom did to you.
Please stay in prayer, the lord stays with us.
Matt
Posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 21:06:05
In reply to Lynn, we must be twins since we have the same mom, posted by spriggy on September 12, 2005, at 20:48:02
You know, I wondered the same thing. I think that I would be completely finished if I did not believe in God or if God were not real. He has kept me through some hard times.
My perfect sister is not so perfect. She has been affected too. She does not realize it though. She thinks that people bow down to her and they dont. I feel bad for her, because people get aggrivated with her.
My anxieties are health related also. I went into a behavior management place for the weekend because I couldnt function after they told me I had two cysts on my thyroid. I had doctors telling me not to worry. Ha, Ha. I pray that I live to raise my children. That is all I ask. Can you imagine wanting to commit suicide because you worry about living long enough to raise your children? There is no logic to that.
Posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 21:24:16
In reply to Re: i would of put up with that. Knock the hell ou, posted by rjlockhart98 on September 12, 2005, at 21:03:49
Matt, Thank you. That is one of the sweetest things someone has ever told me. I have to forgive her. She will not do that to my kids though. One time I walked into her house and she was screaming "shut the F#ck up" to my baby. My baby was about 15 months old at the time. I took my baby and brought her to work with me. I told my boss what my mom did.
Its funny, because when I had surgery my mom was there for me. She cleaned my house and took good care of me. She just has a side of her in which she cant control her rage. She is better now that she is on prozac. She worries about me because of my "nerves" - That makes me mad.
Posted by coachdee on September 12, 2005, at 21:42:05
In reply to Anxiety, posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 19:11:55
Sometimes the fears are totally off the wall, but sometimes they are genuine. When I get anxious about something, I have this one friend I call and no matter how stupid I think my fears are, he really calms down and makes me look at all sides of the whole situation. I don't know what I would do without him. He's my lifesaver I guess you could say, he's seen me at my worst and my best, and he still calls me "his lil sis" (although we are not related). Hope that helps, Lynn
Coachdee
Posted by wildcard on September 12, 2005, at 22:37:26
In reply to Anxiety, posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 19:11:55
I tell ya, u cease to amaze me. i do not speak to my parents b/c of what they did and what they allowed to go on and wont. i have told them i love them but for me to live my life w/o the constant abuse, it's best they are not in it. it was and is hard sometimes but i have my two boys to care for and they come 1st.
Posted by mellymel_d on September 13, 2005, at 15:02:50
In reply to Re: Anxiety, posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 20:39:45
wow- Lynn!!! People ask me the same things about my mom. She was never physically abusive, but very so much emotional. My dad was the physical one. With my mom- I just was never good enough and I'm still not. However like you, I feel the same, I know her good side. Nobody knows her like me. It doesn't make it acceptable for the way she treats me but I know she'll never change. I just have to learn to live with it...
> Most people that know me and my situation dont understand how I still talk to my mom. I know that she has a good side. She tells me she is sorry all the time for the way she raised me. Now she is on prozac, I can tolerate her better. I do forgive her. My sister who was the perfect queen, did not get the brunt of it. She tells me that I shouldnt blame my problems on my childhood. She did not experience what I experienced. Names like retarded, b#tch, and all kinds of bad names were used to refer to me by my mom. The name calling hurt more than the beatings. The beatings were b/c I had a bad report card. By the way, I went on to college and maintained dean's list status every semester except the ones in my freshmen year.
>
> Part of me tells me that that was not abuse. Was it? Is this why I have trouble making decisions? Is this why I have a problem with anxiety? I know that I am ranting. Any thoughts on the matter would be helpful.
>
> Oh, and I dont know why my mom said that when I grow up, I would be the biggest B#tch in town. The only man I have known intimitaly is my husband. I did not sleep around. Go figure?
> Lots of love,
> Lynn
Posted by mellymel_d on September 13, 2005, at 15:06:48
In reply to Lynn, we must be twins since we have the same mom, posted by spriggy on September 12, 2005, at 20:48:02
WOW- I have more similarities with people then I thought. I have the same anxieties. Literally the other day I was sitting in the garage and I swore somebody was going to drive fast around the corner, lose control and run into my house AND on Sunday when I came home from church I told my mother in law: I don't know if I want to meet Jesus ever, not without having my family. Some people are so excited about the day they meet God, I'm like I don't ever want to be without my family...Then I feel guilty about having these thoughts and I remain fixated on them til I'm in a full blown attack...Lately this has been happening a lot. Thus all of my crying spells.
> LOL
>
> My mom and your mom must be some kind of identical twins seperated from birth.
>
> I could've written your entire post (minus the perfect sister, my only sibling is a drug addict who sleeps around with anyone/everyone).
>
> My anxiety tends to be over health issues; what if I stop breathing suddenly (very likely to happen, ROFL)? What if someone kidnaps one of my kids'? What if a car drives erratically and runs into my house? What if God doesn't really exist and I've made all this up in my head? What if I am not really existing and this is some weird dream? What if *I* am really existing and everyone around me is actually a part of some strange part in this movie that's all about me (yeah, a pretty selfish fear, I'll admit),Etc..
>
> So yes, as you can see, most of my anxiety issues are completely, utterly, and totally unrealistic but it's impossible for me to grasp that when I'm in the throws of the despair.
>
> It's bad. I notice when I'm the most anxious, thoughts of death seem to always fill my mind.
>
> I have no clue where I would be without God. If this is how nuts I am WITH Him, I'd hate to fathom where my life would be without Him. LOL
Posted by coley on September 13, 2005, at 22:08:01
In reply to Anxiety, posted by lynn970 on September 12, 2005, at 19:11:55
I think that when you look at the fears you experience during an attack, while not having an attack, may seem irrational. However the bitch of it is that during an attack rational/irrational differences don't seem to matter. All that matters to me is that my world seems to be crashing down around me and the over-riding thought in my mind is "YOU ARE SO WEAK AND YOU CAN NOT DEAL!"
Anxiety sucks, but so does life...sometimes..
Posted by kid47 on September 14, 2005, at 13:11:27
In reply to Lynn, we must be twins since we have the same mom, posted by spriggy on September 12, 2005, at 20:48:02
> My anxiety tends to be over health issues; what if I stop breathing suddenly (very likely to happen, ROFL)<
Busting in here: Concern over health issues is sometimes a BIG problem for me. I tend to be hyper vigilant whenever I have a weird symptom I've never had before....then of course I Google search it, and by the time I've read all the Google info, I have a brain tumor.... or worse, some new as of yet undiscovered disease, that will be named after me.
>What if God doesn't really exist and I've made all this up in my head? What if I am not really existing and this is some weird dream? What if *I* am really existing and everyone around me is actually a part of some strange part in this movie that's all about me (yeah, a pretty selfish fear, I'll admit)<
When I was a kid, I used to think "what if I am the only being in the universe and out of desperation I have imagined all that is around me"...I guess kinda like being God, only very flawed.
Peace & Happiness
kid
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