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Posted by Zo on June 24, 2003, at 22:45:13
In reply to thanks for the welfare check and cops whoeverthefu, posted by a very little sphinx on June 24, 2003, at 22:19:22
Posted by Zo on June 24, 2003, at 22:49:55
In reply to thanks for the welfare check and cops whoeverthefu, posted by a very little sphinx on June 24, 2003, at 22:19:22
Posted by noa on June 24, 2003, at 23:12:39
In reply to i tried to hang myself last night.... as a test, posted by a very little sphinx on June 24, 2003, at 19:52:42
AVLS--I hope you do get help in person. I worry about you. SAR, who was a member of this board and killed her self last year, posted about having tested out hanging herself not long before she did take her own life.
I can't stick around for more discussion, I'm sorry to say, because for me it is too provocative. Don't assume that those of us who find it provocatove haven't been "there". For me, it stirs up a lot in my own history of suicidality and in losses.
I just wanted to say I hope you get the help you need. I am not going to stay in this discussion, but just wanted to urge you to get help. In person. I know you have had a hard time getting people to listen and give you help. But I hope you can get them to listen and get the help you need.
Posted by cybercafe on June 24, 2003, at 23:36:09
In reply to Put your Brashness to Some use » a very little sphinx, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 24, 2003, at 21:14:45
i find forcing myself to pace back and fourth (it becomes fun after a while :) ) is a good way to skip the queue .....
> Go to an Emergency Room. Climb up on the admissions counter and scream bloody murder until someone grabs you and puts you in a little room. Then just start talking after you have their attention. It's not like you have to have an admissions interview. You won't even have to sit and wait your turn. Good luck whoever you are. Find someone who can help you in real life. E-mail your friends and ask then to intervene for you if you can't do it yourself. There's not much a bunch of strangers can do in an emergency when no one knows where you are.
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> > it's come to my attention,that my brashness does not deserve comment from some, that is okay by me... i was born into this world alone, and i will leave it alone... im writing to myself... a fever chart, that spirals downards...
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> > the belt, looped around my neck, my feet on a crate, i tested my weight against the belt and the door... it seemed to slip a bit... but i think... i could hold... i have no hope, all of it has gone... there are no more christmas, no more valentines, im am no ugly duckling, but god put her big finger on me and said, 'you too shall be psyche'...
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> > 28 more years of this... haha... i dont think i could stand another two weeks.... sobbing at work, i tried my damned to smash a bottle on my head tonight.... bottles are made of strong stuff... but i want to see blood.... pools and pools of blood....
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> > i am not like you. i don't know why i am speaking... it disipates into the dark... why is it so difficult, why can i not flip the switch OFF, forever.
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Posted by shar on June 25, 2003, at 0:52:17
In reply to i tried to hang myself last night.... as a test, posted by a very little sphinx on June 24, 2003, at 19:52:42
Posted by shar on June 25, 2003, at 0:55:14
In reply to Sar used to try to hang herself, too. (nm), posted by shar on June 25, 2003, at 0:52:17
I wrote that subject line before I read your post. Interesting that we would both remember that. It is too provocative for me, too.
Shar
Posted by shar on June 25, 2003, at 0:58:42
In reply to thanks for the welfare check and cops whoeverthefu, posted by a very little sphinx on June 24, 2003, at 22:19:22
I have no idea whether this is about somebody sending somebody to help Sphinx. If so, I think the death threat at the end (do that again and I will kill you) warrants a "PBC" at the very least.
Shar
Posted by zenhussy on June 25, 2003, at 2:20:22
In reply to Threatening others--welfare check, posted by shar on June 25, 2003, at 0:58:42
> I have no idea whether this is about somebody sending somebody to help Sphinx. If so, I think the death threat at the end (do that again and I will kill you) warrants a "PBC" at the very least.
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> SharShar,
As someone with depression who has been on the receiving end of a welfare check (cops showing up and poking around your personal space and just being rather a bother when one is so damn down--and this has been on more than one occasion in my life) I can relate to the anger that a.v.l.s. is expressing.
I agree threatening someone isn't productive but it appears there is a very ill young lady here who is in a bad state of her illness.
I'm just trying to muster compassion for someone so ill and so angry.
I do not think PBC'ing or blocking would be helpful to someone so in need of support when it appears she isn't receiving it in her real life (as opposed to this cyber one).
Just my opinion. We're all entitled to have em and often do not agree but that is the beauty of this space. We can be of different opinions and still try to understand and support one another through the ups and downs and cycles of our illnesses (often very angry and ugly but illnesses nonetheless).
I hear what you have to say and read what you and Noa wrote about sar. Indeed this is a triggering thread that many will NEED to avoid for their own well being.
Take care and my prayers are with all that need them.
respectfully,
zenhussy
Posted by a very little sphinx on June 25, 2003, at 4:21:41
In reply to Re: Threatening others--welfare check » shar, posted by zenhussy on June 25, 2003, at 2:20:22
It Desinit in piscem mulier formosa superne.
-Horatiushow could i kill anyone when i can't kill myself, i appologize, do not phone the police again.
sleepless sphinx.
Posted by bobby on June 25, 2003, at 7:32:56
In reply to 5:18 am... still cant sleep.... restless..., posted by a very little sphinx on June 25, 2003, at 4:21:41
I worry not my dear. If you really want to kill me --it would not be so hard to find me if you pay attention to my e-mail address--speaking of which, i understand your need for privacy. I thank wendy b. for asking. why is it so easy to try and off yourself but so hard to seek help? Help surely is the lesser of two evils. sleep deprivation also causes your mind to play tricks on you. don't dispair sphinx, help IS there--seek it out. wishing you peace in your soul.
Bobby
Posted by a very little sphinx on June 25, 2003, at 9:50:11
In reply to threaten me if it makes you feel better » a very little sphinx, posted by bobby on June 25, 2003, at 7:32:56
i sat there, and they went in my house, without asking me, i think that's against the law, and i'm going to file a complaint... 4 people, it took 4 or 5 people to do this welfare check... they rummaged through my house looking for what i dont know... it was completely violating and humiliating... i hate everything...
below is //not// to my watchfiends...
No one knows what it's like
To be the bad girl
To be the sad girl
Behind blue eyesNo one knows what it's like
To be hated
To be fated
To telling only liesBut my dreams
They aren't as empty
As my conscience seems to beI have hours, only lonely
My love is vengeance
That's never freeNo one knows what it's like
To feel these feelings
Like I do
And I blame youNo one bites back as hard
On their anger
None of my pain and woe
Can show throughBut my dreams
They aren't as empty
As my conscience seems to beI have hours, only lonely
My love is vengeance
That's never freeWhen my fist clenches, crack it open
Before I use it and lose my cool
When I smile, tell me some bad news
Before I laugh and act like a foolIf I swallow anything evil
Put your finger down my throat
If I shiver, please give me a blanket
Keep me warm, let me wear your coatNo one knows what it's like
To be the bad girl
To be the sad girl
Behind blue eyes////////
"noose", bad choice of words in deed, BDC, i would have swore there, but as i understand it, adults might have their delicate sensibilities ruffled.
///////
Well I looked into dream of the millions
That one day the search will be through
Now here I stand at the edge of my embattled illusions
Looking into youThe great song traveler passed through here
And he opened my eyes to the view
And I was among those who called him a prophet
And I asked him what was true
Until the distance had shown how the road remains alone
Now I`m looking in my life for a truth that is my ownWell I looked into the sky for my anthem
And the words and the music came through
But words and music can never touch the beauty that I`ve seen
Looking into you -- and that`s true
Posted by a very little sphinx on June 25, 2003, at 10:23:23
In reply to No one knows what it's like..., posted by a very little sphinx on June 25, 2003, at 9:50:11
Posted by whiterabbit on June 25, 2003, at 10:49:12
In reply to No one knows what it's like..., posted by a very little sphinx on June 25, 2003, at 9:50:11
So far I've avoided comment, not because you aren't worth it but because it's painful for me -
my own attempt to end my life was not so very long ago. At the time I woke up in ICU bitterly disappointed to still be alive, I didn't want to go home to my life and I didn't want to be me. I didn't want to BE at all.Since then I've come a very long way. My personal circumstances are unpleasant (as a result of my illness) but my thinking is clear, thanks to medication and therapy. This is all I can offer you and I hope you accept it.
I know you, I know where you are and it's a dark and terrible place. You are in crisis and need immediate medical attention. You have to get to a hospital, you're suffering from a disorder as lethal as a bullet wound. The longer you put off help the worse it will get...it won't go away on its own.
I don't know where you live...where I am, several hospitals in the area have what they call a "behavioral health" clinic - not in the hospital itself but on hospital grounds like the doctors' buildings, or private medical offices. These clinics are set up to help walk-in patients who need immediate intervention - they can and will help you. Unless you live in some third-world country I can't imagine there's not a similar type of facility you can reach. Please get help.
I'm convinced now that suicide is wrong in both a moral and spiritual sense. It's not the way out...
I'm no cosmic authority, but my personal belief is that you reap in the next life what you sow in this life...eventually you answer to everything you do. (My husband is in a s***load of trouble, haha.) At the very least, in the next life you'll pick up right where you left off in your spiritual journey. So you haven't escaped anything after all.Please get help. If I can get better I know that you can. It's obvious that you have an intelligent and powerful mind, although right now your mind is using itself for evil rather than good, same as mine did...
I can promise you, that same mind torturing you now can not only heal with proper treatment, your intellect can be turned into a force to be reckoned with, capable of the most amazing things.
But first you must give up the useless battle you're fighting and say to yourself with meaning:
"I need help. I'm going to get help right now."
Because help IS out there, but first you must reach out your hand.-Gracie, WHO fan
Posted by wendy b. on June 25, 2003, at 10:57:04
In reply to i filed a complaint against the police department (nm), posted by a very little sphinx on June 25, 2003, at 10:23:23
you gotta do what you gotta do...
you AND the person who called the police.
W.
Posted by bobby on June 25, 2003, at 11:04:33
In reply to i filed a complaint against the police department (nm), posted by a very little sphinx on June 25, 2003, at 10:23:23
Are you telling me that the cops just busted into your home for no reason? What is a welfare check anyway? do they check and see if you have welfare? They must have a warrant to enter your house unless you've signed those rights away on your lease(always read carefully). Are you feeling ANY better today? By the way ms.sphinx,before you said you were 22 and now it appears to be 28--am i wrong or are you just aging fast?:) Always on my toes..
if i don't see you in the future--i'll see you in the pasture.
Posted by a very little sphinx on June 25, 2003, at 11:47:29
In reply to How can they do that?, posted by bobby on June 25, 2003, at 11:04:33
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 25, 2003, at 11:55:17
In reply to thanks for the welfare check and cops whoeverthefu, posted by a very little sphinx on June 24, 2003, at 22:19:22
> do that again and i will kill you.
Thanks for apologising, and I'm sorry things are so bad for you right now, but threatening to kill people is hardly civil. I'm a fan of the Internet, of course, but in a crisis, please also get help in person. Best wishes,
Bob
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Posted by zenhussy on June 25, 2003, at 19:58:55
In reply to How can they do that?, posted by bobby on June 25, 2003, at 11:04:33
Posted by shar on June 25, 2003, at 20:11:04
In reply to 22+28=50 magic # for life or death? threads above (nm) » bobby, posted by zenhussy on June 25, 2003, at 19:58:55
oh, did I fail to say the sentence has to be served consecutively and not concurrently? Would be nice if the option was there, though.
Hope you are doing well, Zen.
Shar
Posted by noa on June 25, 2003, at 21:10:08
In reply to Noa, posted by shar on June 25, 2003, at 0:55:14
Yes. I'm glad you remembered, too.
Posted by mair on June 25, 2003, at 22:10:49
In reply to Re: Noa » shar, posted by noa on June 25, 2003, at 21:10:08
...a thread about going to a place like Home Depot and trying to evaluate all of the ropes.
Some of this stuff, I don't think I'll ever forget.
Mair
Posted by justyourlaugh on June 25, 2003, at 22:58:54
In reply to I remembered too..., posted by mair on June 25, 2003, at 22:10:49
Posted by zenhussy on June 26, 2003, at 1:42:32
In reply to Re: 22+28=50 magic # for life or death? threads above » zenhussy, posted by shar on June 25, 2003, at 20:11:04
> oh, did I fail to say the sentence has to be served consecutively and not concurrently? Would be nice if the option was there, though.
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> Hope you are doing well, Zen.
> SharYeah you *did* fail to mention that little fact. Hee hee. 'preciate the humor here and really do appreciate your explaining what your meant by 50 being a good milestone to reach.
coping on minimum sleep and major fatigue. family stuff not good at all.
thanks for good wishes.
take care,
zh
Posted by Brio D Chimp on June 26, 2003, at 10:33:39
In reply to Re: 22+28=50 magic # for life or death? threads above » zenhussy, posted by shar on June 25, 2003, at 20:11:04
Oh wait you wouldn't know
JUST KIDDING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> oh, did I fail to say the sentence has to be served consecutively and not concurrently? Would be nice if the option was there, though.
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> Hope you are doing well, Zen.
> Shar
Posted by shar on June 26, 2003, at 16:32:37
In reply to Do you get time off for good behaviour? » shar, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 26, 2003, at 10:33:39
This is the end of the thread.
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