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Posted by finelinebob on September 9, 2006, at 2:55:49
Seriously, tho, I can't. I'm very fortunate to have an understanding boss, but right now I'm at the grunt level of my company and any sort of advancement is going to require more regular hours, meetings, aCk! 8*b
I used to be such a morning person it was irritating even to me! ;^) My alarm would go off, I'd pop out of bed wide awake. Then came several years of unemployment and severe PTSD that had me awake for 70-80 hours at a time. Sleeping twice a week = not a good idea. My sleep cycle seems to be so screwed up I don't know if it will ever get back to normal.
Does anyone have any suggestions on sound alarms or "natural light"/light therapy devices that help get you moving in the morning? Anything besides sound or light that helps?
Thanks
flb
Posted by zenhussy on September 9, 2006, at 12:20:34
In reply to Help! I've fallen (asleep) and I can't get up!, posted by finelinebob on September 9, 2006, at 2:55:49
this has been a fav. of many we know who loathe buzzers and alarm radios. does the gentle light awakening along with sounds and scents, if desired. average price about $50
http://www.hammacher.com/publish/70460.asp
there's the ol' standby chime of the zen clock. uses the Golden Mean and Pythagorean Tuning. average price about $110
who said gentle waking was inexpensive? ;) good luck and if you go with any pls update with results. thx.
Posted by finelinebob on September 9, 2006, at 20:02:29
In reply to how about adding scent to sound and light? » finelinebob, posted by zenhussy on September 9, 2006, at 12:20:34
> this has been a fav. of many we know who loathe buzzers and alarm radios. does the gentle light awakening along with sounds and scents, if desired. average price about $50
>
> http://www.hammacher.com/publish/70460.aspI'll have to stop by the store and see if they have one on display. And if the gentle approach doesn't work, then there's:
http://www.hammacher.com/publish/72516.asp
But thanks for the suggestions ... I'll check them out.
Posted by zenhussy on September 9, 2006, at 20:55:29
In reply to Re: how about adding scent to sound and light? » zenhussy, posted by finelinebob on September 9, 2006, at 20:02:29
>> And if the gentle approach doesn't work, then there's: http://www.hammacher.com/publish/72516.asp
oh, yes! just what every ptsd person in healing needs...however did this slip our perusal? ;)
although on some of the sleeping meds over the years there is high doubt even that monster could awaken this drugged beast!
besides doesn't wake up duty fall on your amazing pooch? we rely upon our shep/mix most of the time that we do not use alarm. dog is very loyal, intelligent and keeps schedules one could set a watch to! now the coffee making training...another matter....
Posted by finelinebob on September 9, 2006, at 22:43:41
In reply to Re: the non gentle approach to waking! yikes!! » finelinebob, posted by zenhussy on September 9, 2006, at 20:55:29
> besides doesn't wake up duty fall on your amazing pooch? we rely upon our shep/mix most of the time that we do not use alarm. dog is very loyal, intelligent and keeps schedules one could set a watch to! now the coffee making training...another matter....
My last shepherd, yes, she wouldn't let me sleep. Leyna, on the other hand, loves me too much to overly disturb me. She'll get up on the bed, lick my face, see my eyes open with a vacant stare in them, then give this big sigh, turn around three or four times then lie down and cozy up to me.
Posted by gardenergirl on September 15, 2006, at 10:50:59
In reply to how about adding scent to sound and light? » finelinebob, posted by zenhussy on September 9, 2006, at 12:20:34
zen,
You once gave me a recipe for essential oils to aid in concentration and clarity. I found it helpful when I tried it. Unfortunately, I can't find the recipe in my computer files. I suspect that I failed to save it.Would you please post it or email it to me if you have a chance and still have it?
Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
gg
Posted by Lindenblüte on September 22, 2006, at 21:45:14
In reply to Speaking of adding scent » zenhussy, posted by gardenergirl on September 15, 2006, at 10:50:59
Hey- that's funny! I always noticed how when I get up before my husband (he's a night owl- can sleep until 11am) I don't bother him while getting dressed, opening the doors, or walking around the bedroom. As soon as I spritz on my perfume though, he wakes up and says "uuuuhh. What time is it?"
I use a lot of different perfumes, so I don't think it's any one scent, just something strong.
my favorite right now is Stella, by Stella McCartney. It's made with all-organic botanicals. Mostly has a kind of rose-floral scent. not too heavy. just nice.
Posted by zenhussy on October 4, 2006, at 9:24:55
In reply to Speaking of adding scent » zenhussy, posted by gardenergirl on September 15, 2006, at 10:50:59
a quick check of aromatherapy books at any granola natural food store should bring up mental clarity recipies.
good luck!
Posted by gardenergirl on October 4, 2006, at 9:28:40
In reply to homelessness left books in storage away from here » gardenergirl, posted by zenhussy on October 4, 2006, at 9:24:55
Thanks zen. I'll check that out.
I'm glad you were able to store your things.
gg
Posted by rainbutterfly on October 12, 2006, at 7:51:48
In reply to homelessness left books in storage away from here » gardenergirl, posted by zenhussy on October 4, 2006, at 9:24:55
What a sweet thread! Thanks for the info.
As an aside, zenhussy, I understand that honesty is important to you. It is to me, also. Re. an earlier thread that I did not get back to you on. It was so long ago, I am thinking my late reply might be missed, so I am hoping my reply here doesn't cause anyone any offense.
rainbutterfly
Posted by zenhussy on October 13, 2006, at 0:54:17
In reply to Re: homelessness left books in storage away from here » zenhussy, posted by rainbutterfly on October 12, 2006, at 7:51:48
Posted by rainbutterfly on October 14, 2006, at 3:08:14
In reply to huh? not following your post....pls clarify? (nm) » rainbutterfly, posted by zenhussy on October 13, 2006, at 0:54:17
In your "welcome" post to me here, you mentioned something like "understandable that honesty would be of importance as it has been an issue before". I did a quick search for the post in question but haven't found it, so sorry for incorrect wording. You have mentioned honesty before to me though... although not directly, if I recall correctly. My post to you was saying that honesty is also important to me. I have posted elsewhere re. the deceit in my childhood which was very damaging to me. I will not say I have never told any lie or exaggerated in all my time on line. If I have done so, 99 percent of the (few) issues I have altered slightly would be for privacy reasons. The issue I think you were referring to was confusion on my part. Also being more depressed, scared, hurt and triggered, and generally confused than I had realised.
Around that time, I discovered a major lie from two online people who I had believed were two of my closest online friends. They had been deceiving me, and completely aware of that fact (if they were not aware of their deception I totally do not understand why) for many many months. This triggered me, and made me "regress" more than I knew at the time. As an aside, as I might have mentioned before, my former T did talk to "L" in session and he believed she was real. The counsellor I saw after this T said that "regression is essential for therapy". I did not trust her enough to show the "L" part of me to her at all though. Or perhaps more accurately, my defenses were very high at that time, and I was not triggered in sessions to any great extent.
I maintain that honesty is important to me. So is sincerity, which to me is very close to honesty. I hope this clarifies.
rainbutterfly
Posted by zenhussy on October 16, 2006, at 13:18:15
In reply to Re: huh? not following your post....pls clarify? » zenhussy, posted by rainbutterfly on October 14, 2006, at 3:08:14
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http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20060901/msgs/684240.htmlPosted by rainbutterfly on September 8, 2006
"heh. lots of times honesty hasn't paid off for me. honesty is important but so is forgiveness.
bla bla bla
I am not paranoid enuf to think I will get a bomb, just a part of me is.
prickly butterfly"
~~~~--zh said on September 9, 2006 "understandable to be concerned about honesty when that has been issue in the past."
~~~~>>>In your "welcome" post to me here, you mentioned something like "understandable that honesty would be of importance as it has been an issue before". I did a quick search for the post in question but haven't found it, so sorry for incorrect wording. You have mentioned honesty before to me though... although not directly, if I recall correctly. My post to you was saying that honesty is also important to me. I have posted elsewhere re. the deceit in my childhood which was very damaging to me. I will not say I have never told any lie or exaggerated in all my time on line. If I have done so, 99 percent of the (few) issues I have altered slightly would be for privacy reasons. The issue I think you were referring to was confusion on my part. Also being more depressed, scared, hurt and triggered, and generally confused than I had realised.
Around that time, I discovered a major lie from two online people who I had believed were two of my closest online friends. They had been deceiving me, and completely aware of that fact (if they were not aware of their deception I totally do not understand why) for many many months. This triggered me, and made me "regress" more than I knew at the time. As an aside, as I might have mentioned before, my former T did talk to "L" in session and he believed she was real. The counsellor I saw after this T said that "regression is essential for therapy". I did not trust her enough to show the "L" part of me to her at all though. Or perhaps more accurately, my defenses were very high at that time, and I was not triggered in sessions to any great extent.
I maintain that honesty is important to me. So is sincerity, which to me is very close to honesty. I hope this clarifies.
rainbutterfly<<<
~~~~Ms Rainbutterfly,
perhaps this convo, if it is to continue, can go back to social so that this thread about alternative methods of waking isn't hijacked even further........
Posted by zenhussy on January 17, 2007, at 14:37:19
In reply to Re: homelessness left books in storage away from h » zenhussy, posted by gardenergirl on October 4, 2006, at 9:28:40
not sure which ones as there are many for mental clarity but a few that come to mind from the cards in one of the books are:
stress--
Clary Sage --15 drops
Lemon --10 drops
Lavender --5 dropsstress with tiredness--
Clary Sage --5 drops
Lemon --10 drops
Lavender --15 dropsmental clarity--
Lemon --5 drops
Spearmint --2 drops
Peppermint --2 drops
Black Pepper --2 drops
Rosemary --2 dropsirritability--
Nutmeg --5 drops
Sandalwood --4 drops
Pettigraine --6 dropsdepression slightly more severe--
Geranium --4 drops (we use rose geranium)
Neroli --2 drops
Nutmeg --3 dropsapathy--
Grapefruit --6 drops
Rosemary --4 drops
Lavender --2 dropsdepression less severe--
Geranium --6 drops
Lavender --2 drops
Bergamot --4 dropsinsomnia--
Marjoram --7drops
Vetiver --4 drops
Lemon --3 dropshth your journey as an individual on her own path. can't remember if basics of dilutions or vaporizations have been addressed but we're sure somewhere online (maybe erowid's?) has info about dilutions and preparations for safely using these formulas.
Posted by gardenergirl on January 20, 2007, at 22:02:26
In reply to aromatherapy recipies for GG from long ago..... » gardenergirl, posted by zenhussy on January 17, 2007, at 14:37:19
Thanks zen. I look, forward to trying those, and I appreciate your follow-up with this. I'm hoping to get the recipes I've gathered into a database at some point when I have more time.
Since we chatted about this long ago, I've done more research, particularly about how to use them safely. There's a lot out there to read, some good, some not so good.
I recently made a sinus formula for someone I know who is pregnant. I was surprised to see how many were contraindicated for pregnancy. Oh, and I was shocked to see wintergreen oil on the shelf at a local GNC. I thought that one was generally not safe.
namaste
gg
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