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Posted by teejay on March 6, 2006, at 20:33:06
Hiya all,
Just at the moment, I seem to be running through a relatively good spell (which comes on the back of one of the worst spells I ever had curiously).
I'm currently a fortnight into my abstinence of white tea and its associated caffeine - I now drink black decaff coffee - and abstinence of milk. I do still use butter and some cheese so not sure if my experiment is perfect but there you go.
Supps currently taken include a crude multi vitamin, a bit of Vit D, a couple of grams of inositiol, some bilberry tincture for my eyes and siberian ginseng tincture as a mental boost.
Anyway, the two things which continue to irritate me are my inability to absorb and learn new material and my appaling short term memory. As an example, I can put on a song which I learned the lyrics to 20 years ago and apart fromt he odd mistake can recall and sing along to the song if I was to play it now, but a song I play now VERY reularly, I simply cant learn the lyrics too nomatter how hard I try. Same goes for memory recall. I can recall equations I learn back at school a coupleof decades ago, but can't tell you what I ate for dinner last night!
Any help with supps which might help me out here would be very much appreciated.
Thanks friends.
TJ
Posted by tealady on March 8, 2006, at 2:35:38
In reply to supplements which aid memory and learning...., posted by teejay on March 6, 2006, at 20:33:06
Hiya TJ,
I was meaning to ask if you managed to keep off all dairy or all milk at least:-. The butter is cream and that's different from milk , I think??
Anyway that's good to hear as I couldnt keep off dairy, even if I ever do manage to cut out tea or caffeine. I've no lucK below 4 or 5 cups tea a day, well that's down from 8 -10 cups a year ago. ( or 3 cups tea and a cup of coffee so far.) Any lower and the headaches start..and last 3 days each time!..and they ONLY disappear if I drink a few cups of tea in a row.. catch up! together with some aspirin.
I was reading that tea contains half the caffeine per cup of coffeee. I always thougt it ws a lot less. Looks like I need 5 cups of tea of caffeine worth.. I can do Coke instead with the caffeine too:-)How long have you been taking inositol now?
I have some here I haven't opened as yet... been trying the tryptophan lately and d-ribose.Interesting about the siberian gingeng too. That used to work for me.. but they stopped making the whole root and last I looked I could only get the extract.
That tincture sounds like its worth a try if I can get my hands on any. It did help me for many years.I used to buy in caps and make a tea out of it.(used to be the Solgar brand before Solgar opened their own Aussie branch with Aussie formulations.. long time ago). Actually if I could have kept up with the Siberian Gingeng I might never had tried SSRI's and may not have gone down the thryoid med path either!
So also when did you start on the Siberian Gingseng. Its supposed to help adrenal function I think in theory, but as with all herbs it probably does a lot more in a more balanced way.Re the short term memory.. yeah I know... is it catchy? LOL:-)
At uni I can't remember anything from a lecture so I record them..and I cant remember anything I read either. I just play the reocrding over and over and try to understand what is going on.. then work everything out with my brains.. and even they aint the best. I got thru 1st year as its all multiple choice..(actually I topped the subjects, LOL, with a LOT of help from many people especially Bob on the thyroid forum who used to teach Chem:-) I can work out the best answer from a choice and colour in a dot...just can't remember the word if someone asks me.
This year they expect me to write out some answers as well as the multiple choice bit..so I don't know.. how do you write if you can't think of the word you want to say? I'm attempting Food Chemistry and Biochemistry.. but not sure if it will be too much.ON short term memory, I have to carry my book with the list of 3 things and amounts I have to mix togther over to the fume cupboard.. NOONE else does this;-).. but otherwise I cant remember a list of 3 things and amounts of each.. even for a few seconds, LOL. I've had some strange looks but so far noone has asked why I bring my book with me:-)
Jan
Posted by teejay on March 8, 2006, at 20:01:27
In reply to Re: supplements which aid memory and learning.... » teejay, posted by tealady on March 8, 2006, at 2:35:38
Thank you sweetheart (I did reply to your mail by the way).
Its now been 2 weeks since I started my abstinence of milk a caffeine. Strictly toast for breakfast and drinks are black decaff coffee rather than white tea (which I drank by the bucketful).
Had a duff night tonight. That monster aggressive anxiety back again so decided to do a bottle of wine. Its a nice relaxing way to melt away the anxiety. Not a long term everyday plan of course but a nice fallback on the nastiest days of symptoms.
Been doing the inositol on and off for a couple of months now along with gaba relaxer (which i ran out of a couple of weeks ago and couldnt get again until today). Not sure if it makes much difference to be honest.
Over approximately the same time frames i've been taking two herbal tinctures, bilberry for the terrible foaters I suffer with in my eyes and siberian ginseng 'cos it always seemed to help in some way.
If I was pushed, I'd say the abstinence and the ginseng combined are making a modest improvement. I'm told however that potential allergen removal can take quite a few weeks to really show results.
This board is very quiet lately and if it wasnt for my second favourite aussie lady (sorry but you still dont beat kylie!!! LOL) replying to me, I'd be sat here talking to myself.
TJ xxx
Posted by Jakeman on March 8, 2006, at 21:39:42
In reply to supplements which aid memory and learning...., posted by teejay on March 6, 2006, at 20:33:06
Teejay,
My favorite supplement for improving short term memory is phosphatidyliserine. What I'm using now is Natural Factors PS-IQ. It's helped me get through meetings without fogging out.
warm regards ~Jake
Posted by robot on March 13, 2006, at 10:47:57
In reply to Re: supplements which aid memory and learning.... » teejay, posted by tealady on March 8, 2006, at 2:35:38
Ive noticed lately that the omega3 fatty acid supplements seem to boost the effects I get from caffeine, and keeps me from crashing later like I used to. (I am taking a high EPA fish oil).
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