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Posted by Radish on June 13, 2019, at 13:48:59
Does anyone here know if hospitalization is generally helpful or a waste of time? Or if pdocs get miffed if you hospitalize yourself without trying to see them first? Is it ok to go if you are not actually about to hurt yourself?
Posted by TH on June 13, 2019, at 16:13:46
In reply to Hospitalization: worth it?, posted by Radish on June 13, 2019, at 13:48:59
It depends on the context, but it's generally unlikely that anything productive will come from it. All they really can do is contain you until you settle down, and then you're back out again right where you were before. It's more crisis management and less of a treatment.
Posted by linkadge on June 13, 2019, at 16:14:35
In reply to Hospitalization: worth it?, posted by Radish on June 13, 2019, at 13:48:59
Good question.
Not sure how to respond. I once went to the hospital when I was (more or less) at my wits end. I'm not sure if I was 'at risk' so to speak, but I definitely needed closer monitoring.
Hospitalization can be worth it, but (at least here in Candada) they were a bit pressured to get me out. Hence med dosages were ramped up pretty quickly.
Have you tried a lot of meds? Do you have a definite diagnosis? Do you agree with that diagnosis?
Linkadge
Posted by Radish on June 13, 2019, at 17:00:16
In reply to Re: Hospitalization: worth it?, posted by linkadge on June 13, 2019, at 16:14:35
> Good question.
> Not sure how to respond. I once went to the hospital when I was (more or less) at my wits end. I'm not sure if I was 'at risk' so to speak, but I definitely needed closer monitoring.
> Hospitalization can be worth it, but (at least here in Candada) they were a bit pressured to get me out. Hence med dosages were ramped up pretty quickly.
> Have you tried a lot of meds? Do you have a definite diagnosis? Do you agree with that diagnosis?
> Linkadge
I am in Canada too, Ontario. Ive never been given a diagnosis formally from a doc or anything like that. But I have lifelong severe social/general anxiety and depression which are getting worse. I have tried about ten to twelve different meds.
I was considering the hospital to get a benzodiazepine prescription. my doctor stopped refilling my very low dose (.5 mg) PRN lorazepam prescription without notice or communicating why. And benzos are the ONLY thing that touch my anxiety. Ive been without them for over a month and Im in the worst state. Anxiety so bad I almost get hit by cars because I cant focus or think about where Im going. So I was hoping they could give me some lorazepam (or preferably alprazolam or clonazepam) at a hospital. My next appt with my pdoc is in a month and I cant wait so long.
But I probably wont go this route because It seems like something theyd tell you to ask your doctor for. A lot of effort and shame to be told no probably.
Posted by Radish on June 13, 2019, at 17:02:18
In reply to Re: Hospitalization: worth it?, posted by TH on June 13, 2019, at 16:13:46
> It depends on the context, but it's generally unlikely that anything productive will come from it. All they really can do is contain you until you settle down, and then you're back out again right where you were before. It's more crisis management and less of a treatment.
Thats what Ive heard, yeah
Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 15, 2019, at 0:33:19
In reply to Re: Hospitalization: worth it?, posted by Radish on June 13, 2019, at 17:00:16
yeah it depends, there's patiients that have to stay there for life because of mentall illness, usally that's state hospitals. I have funny story to tell, i've been to hospitals before, but i drove all the way to terrell state hospital because at the time i thought i needed to be away from everything. Stress and all this crazed feeling, but when i got there it's an old hospital, parts of it are current, like the offices in frount but deeper into the site, it's still has artecture from the 1930s, seems like it was never updated. I thought i would stay there, but I said i don't hear anything, just anxiety and started pulling out because they had these guards that tackle people when there out of control, there were 2 guards sitting in the assesment room....i got afraid thinking this is where serious cases go.... they could of own me for a long time. Good behavior and improvement in symptoms usally the'll let you go, or get into self improvement program like outpatient. But others have to stay there, because they can't be in the real world because of severity of illness.
It can be helpful, yes....i know people who got really unstable, felt having nervous breakdown, and they went to the psych hospital and slowly got better, put them on meds the doctor didnt choose to do.But yes, defiently it can help in emergency situations, they rehabilite you so you can function and be stable. It also depends on psych hospital, there's some that are ALOT of money, i stayed at one about 9 years ago. They had an expresso machine in the cafe, they had burgers that we're good like fast food, everything seemed above average. I stayed there because it was closets one, and took a big budget from account to stay there, in some way i kinda regret it because it was so much money, and lost alot of savings. But their staff was very nice, and they had programs like relaxation, meditation
It just depends on why you think you should go, to go to them and get better or go and stay there for a long time.
Posted by pedr on June 18, 2019, at 16:07:50
In reply to Hospitalization: worth it?, posted by Radish on June 13, 2019, at 13:48:59
> Does anyone here know if hospitalization is generally helpful or a waste of time? Or if pdocs get miffed if you hospitalize yourself without trying to see them first? Is it ok to go if you are not actually about to hurt yourself?
Your PDoc would be a jerk to get pissed if you were about to harm yourself and instead you put yourself inpatient. Any decent human being would prefer to see someone survive. However if you're not truly desperate, I'd strongly recommend against it.
I went inpatient a year ago in NYC, to a "good" unit and it did not help one iota. They said they "knew" why I was so depressed, attempted to solve my problems and just made them worse with crappy meds changes. Then you're punted out feeling as bad if not worse than when you went in. I did meet some great fellow sufferers inpatient but that was about the only "helpful" thing about it unfortunately. They were pretty arrogant about fixing my decades-long TRD.
Actually that's one good time to go inpatient - if you need to make serious meds changes and you need to make them quickly. You're a lot safer in there than at home (since it's very hard to top yourself inpatient as there're no potentially-lethal objects there at all).
Just my 2d.
Posted by Lamdage22 on June 24, 2019, at 3:44:47
In reply to Re: Hospitalization: worth it? » Radish, posted by pedr on June 18, 2019, at 16:07:50
It depends on the hospital. Lock em up, drug em up is not worth it unless you are really at risk for suicide
Posted by Stargazer2 on June 25, 2019, at 23:48:06
In reply to Hospitalization: worth it?, posted by Radish on June 13, 2019, at 13:48:59
They wont admit you unless you are a risk to self or others.
Posted by Lamdage22 on June 27, 2019, at 13:39:50
In reply to Re: Hospitalization: worth it?, posted by Radish on June 13, 2019, at 17:02:18
Rehab may be worth it. Not necessarily drug rehab. Psychiatric rehab.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on July 7, 2019, at 0:31:33
In reply to Re: Hospitalization: worth it? » Radish, posted by pedr on June 18, 2019, at 16:07:50
the psych i went too in 2010 they took me off prozac the first day, and used geodon and depakote. the truth, that was the most unhelpful psychaitric stay i had, no other was i depressed, but i was on sh*tty meds, like trazadone, they had me on geodon, i had to make several doctor visits with arrogant ones, that would not use zyprexa. Put me on trazashit and geodon, absoletly no help at all. I had to fake getting better to get out of hospital. The unit i was in we had recreational time, and schduele like group therpay. It was alot of money, and it took a toll on the savings. I could of gotten better from elseware. I left hospital in not a better state, they would not use benzodiapines, nothing it was the most wasteful stay ever. Drained the savings account. Had to tell doctor i felt great everyday so they would release me
Posted by Lamdage22 on July 25, 2019, at 3:12:58
In reply to Re: Hospitalization: worth it?, posted by rjlockhart37 on July 7, 2019, at 0:31:33
That doesn't sound good. Trazodone, however, gave me a much needed antidepressant boost.
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