Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1096918

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I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 9, 2018, at 5:23:48

Hey,

i have some not so good news again. I am withdrawing since a year and all my progress is gone. What are the additional risks of high dose Neuroleptics?

THX
Lamdage

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by Christ_empowered on February 9, 2018, at 15:55:26

In reply to I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Lamdage22 on February 9, 2018, at 5:23:48

hi. higher doses=higher overall risks, usually. tardive dyskinesia is the -big- one, of course. thankfully, you're on 2 lower risk atypicals.


sorry about this. maybe this time your doctor could try gradually reducing one tranquilizer at time? Like, reduce the zyprexa until you hit 0, and then start tapering the seroquel? just a thought...

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by linkadge on February 9, 2018, at 17:42:07

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Christ_empowered on February 9, 2018, at 15:55:26

You may try slowly increasing again vs. going back to high doses.

You may also look at using vitamin C and / or melatonin, as these have natural antidopaminergic effects and can augment lower doses of antipsychotics.

Linkadge

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 10, 2018, at 4:35:08

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Christ_empowered on February 9, 2018, at 15:55:26

I blew it. My doctor at the time was saying that i am on a high dose of the Neuroleptics suggesting i go lower. I agreed although i did not feel entirely comfortable with that. Now im back to square one.

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel Lamdage22

Posted by SLS on February 10, 2018, at 7:36:47

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Lamdage22 on February 10, 2018, at 4:35:08

> I blew it. My doctor at the time was saying that i am on a high dose of the Neuroleptics suggesting i go lower. I agreed although i did not feel entirely comfortable with that. Now im back to square one.

In what ways are you improved when you go back to the higher dosages of neuroleptic antipsychotics?

1. Zyprexa?

2. Seroquel?

What residual symptoms do you have after the dosage increase?

Have you ever checked your triglycerides? Mine are over 400. I am 50 pounds overweight. I think Abilify is the culprit. My blood sugar is normal. I'm thinking of asking my doctor about metformin. Are you aware of any long-term adverse side effects?


- Scott

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 10, 2018, at 9:05:24

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel Lamdage22, posted by SLS on February 10, 2018, at 7:36:47

> In what ways are you improved when you go back to the higher dosages of neuroleptic antipsychotics?
>
> 1. Zyprexa?
>
> 2. Seroquel?

Hmm i can sleep now and i dont feel like ABSOLUTE crap when i lay down and try to sleep.

> What residual symptoms do you have after the dosage increase?

Just depression and negative symptoms. No positive symptoms.

> Have you ever checked your triglycerides? Mine are over 400. I am 50 pounds overweight. I think Abilify is the culprit. My blood sugar is normal. I'm thinking of asking my doctor about metformin. Are you aware of any long-term adverse side effects?

It may cause me to lose hair but i am rather bald than overweight. Plus triglycerides and cholesterol scares me. My grandma spent her last 10 years in bed because of stroke. I may be genetically burdened.
I take 2000mg. It doesnt really have any side effects right now except !maybe! hairloss. But could be genetic, too. I once shitted myself and had diarrhea but i think at the time i took 2500mg. You shouldnt do that. Plus you need a kidney check every now and then to avoid the rare side effect of Agranulocytosis. It prolongs life in animal models https://www.livescience.com/38532-metformin-lifespan-mice.html
My triglycerides are mildly high but i take two very high dosed Antipsychotics. I think if you took what i take without metformin, youd probably be like 150+ pounds overweight with outrageous triglycerides.

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 10, 2018, at 9:16:43

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Lamdage22 on February 10, 2018, at 9:05:24

Most of the time there are only gastro-intestinal side effects that lessen over time. Aside from that it is very clean. No psychological effects whatsoever. I am not a doctor but i think you should bring the subject of Metformin up. I think it works from the first dosage on. It may be wise to not start with 2000mg right away. let us know if you try.

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 10, 2018, at 9:35:00

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Lamdage22 on February 10, 2018, at 9:16:43

It may lessen testosterone but i dont notice that at all. My levels are good. A doctor i think very highly of said its a great and clean medication.

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by rjlockhart37 on February 10, 2018, at 16:23:14

In reply to I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Lamdage22 on February 9, 2018, at 5:23:48

25mg of olanzipine and seroquel at that dose......that is alot, at higher doses you have movement disorder, but if you haven't experienced that, maybe your good, but lamdage that is incredibly high amount, that seems somewhat dangerous

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel Lamdage22

Posted by linkadge on February 10, 2018, at 18:14:02

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Lamdage22 on February 10, 2018, at 9:05:24

An inability to sleep is not necessarily an indication that you need to take more antipsychotic!

There are much better meds for sleep.

Try again. Tell your doctor what is happening - and what symptoms you are having.

As mentioned, a low dose of melatonin may help sleep. A very low dose of mirtazapine may also help. Even 1mg of mirtazapine can be a great sleep aid with MUCH less impairment than an antipsychotic.

Magnesium may also help sleep.

My killer combo for insomnia is:

mirtazapine 1mg
melatonin 1mg
magnesium 50-100mg
lorazepam 0.25mg

I don't think these have ever failed me for sleep.

Linkadge


 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel Lamdage22

Posted by SLS on February 11, 2018, at 0:10:29

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Lamdage22 on February 10, 2018, at 9:35:00

Thanks for all of your help, Lamdage.


- Scott

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 11, 2018, at 11:49:23

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel Lamdage22, posted by linkadge on February 10, 2018, at 18:14:02

Magnesium doesnt help me sleep. Melatonin id have to try. I didnt try in a long time. I dont want to take lorazepam daily. Mirtazapine may or may not work. H1 antagonism doesnt do squat for me (Doxylamine + Diphenydramin). Also many low potency antipsychotics dont work for me. Id have to try.

> mirtazapine 1mg
> melatonin 1mg
> magnesium 50-100mg
> lorazepam 0.25mg
>
> I don't think these have ever failed me for sleep.

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 12, 2018, at 3:20:01

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel Lamdage22, posted by linkadge on February 10, 2018, at 18:14:02

i just told my doctor and he thinks its fine

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by rjlockhart37 on February 12, 2018, at 16:43:32

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Lamdage22 on February 12, 2018, at 3:20:01

does it have any side effects, olanzipine and seroquel are good for anxiety alot, but i just i read couple times when you block dopamine receptors in the brain too much, you start having movement disorder similar to Parkinson's, tardive dyskinesia, and other things. But if this is working, then its a good med choice.

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by Christ_empowered on February 13, 2018, at 9:50:56

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Lamdage22 on February 12, 2018, at 3:20:01

old school doctors sometimes managed to get the neuroleptic dose a bit lower by using daily benzodiazepines. id avoid klonopin (drug induced depression), but maybe xanax xr, ativan, even good old fashion valium?

 

Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 16, 2018, at 6:52:12

In reply to Re: I am back to 25mg Zyprexa and 950 Seroquel, posted by Christ_empowered on February 13, 2018, at 9:50:56

i am driving though


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