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Posted by oceansun on October 18, 2014, at 22:04:35
Klonopin or Ativan?
Posted by SLS on October 18, 2014, at 22:23:11
In reply to Which withdrawal and tolerance is worse..., posted by oceansun on October 18, 2014, at 22:04:35
> Klonopin or Ativan?
I vote for Klonopin as being the more difficult drug to discontinue. For me, the withdrawal effects from stopping Klonopin were like trying to discontinue a benzidiazapine and a SRI antidepressant at the same time. The brain-zaps were so forceful, I described them a being like lightening bolts. Bad.
I will be interested in seing what other people have to say.
It's been a long time...
:-)
- Scott
Posted by gadchik on October 19, 2014, at 7:24:45
In reply to Re: Which withdrawal and tolerance is worse... » oceansun, posted by SLS on October 18, 2014, at 22:23:11
I took Klonopin .5mg once daily for 5 1/2 yrs, and c/o to valium w/minimal issues and am now tapering directly from valium. I never developed tolerance on Klonopin. I couldnt directly taper from it, however. One tiny cut caused agony. Valium is diff, easy in comparison for tapering. So,if you do take klonopin, you can always go to valium to taper off when you need to. Altho, Im sure some have alot of issues w/valium. My only exp w/Ativan is getting injected w/it in the ER a few times. It really calmed me down in a minute and made me sleep.
Posted by Phillipa on October 19, 2014, at 9:49:23
In reply to Re: Which withdrawal and tolerance is worse..., posted by gadchik on October 19, 2014, at 7:24:45
After all the years on benzos unless they become illegal guess on them for life. I have just stopped them in the past I think both valium and ativan and it was fine . I still remember miltown with valium. One day stopped miltown and never noticed. When about a month later and saw the doc he was amazed no withdrawal. But at the time was happy and going to school, own aerobics business, going through a divorce, raising kids. But I was busy so that was the key for me. Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on October 19, 2014, at 12:21:47
In reply to Re: Which withdrawal and tolerance is worse..., posted by Phillipa on October 19, 2014, at 9:49:23
I would agree with SLS.
I have taken both Ativan and Clonazepam.
I found Clonazepam harder to get off. Even though, in theory, Ativan should be harder due to its short half life.
Posted by Christ_empowered on October 19, 2014, at 18:05:29
In reply to Re: Which withdrawal and tolerance is worse..., posted by linkadge on October 19, 2014, at 12:21:47
Klonopin. I don't think its just because its so high potency. I think the way it affects mood and things, its harder. Ativan was more PRN more me, but it didn't have a significant effect on my mood. Over time, Klonopin kind of flattened my mood. Tapering was rough, physically (headaches, insomnia, agitation), but also psychologically, in a way that I can't quite express.
Posted by seekinginformation on November 1, 2014, at 18:54:25
In reply to Re: Which withdrawal and tolerance is worse..., posted by gadchik on October 19, 2014, at 7:24:45
Hey there, curious about this... did you cross from .5 MGs Klonopin to 10MGS Valium?
> I took Klonopin .5mg once daily for 5 1/2 yrs, and c/o to valium w/minimal issues and am now tapering directly from valium. I never developed tolerance on Klonopin. I couldnt directly taper from it, however. One tiny cut caused agony. Valium is diff, easy in comparison for tapering. So,if you do take klonopin, you can always go to valium to taper off when you need to. Altho, Im sure some have alot of issues w/valium. My only exp w/Ativan is getting injected w/it in the ER a few times. It really calmed me down in a minute and made me sleep.
Posted by gadchik on November 10, 2014, at 16:35:34
In reply to Re: Which withdrawal and tolerance is worse... » gadchik, posted by seekinginformation on November 1, 2014, at 18:54:25
Sorry, I havent checked in here in awhile...yes, I c/o to 10mg Valium from .5mg Klonopin by following Dr Reg Pearts suggestions.
http://www.drregpeart.org/Dr%20Peart%20Sample%20Schedules%20with%20Notes%2022Sep06.pdf
It hasnt been too bad at all. Im now at 5.5mg, going slower than I had planned but doing it! Im happy and no anxiety, sleeping fine and still hiking 30-32 miles a week!
Posted by kirkglen on November 12, 2014, at 8:21:51
In reply to Re: Which withdrawal and tolerance is worse... » seekinginformation, posted by gadchik on November 10, 2014, at 16:35:34
I used 1000% chewable Biotin to get off Klonopin. Went cold turkey and never felt any withdrawal from 2 mg Klonopin a day. Got the Biotin at GNC.
Posted by gadchik on November 12, 2014, at 11:27:35
In reply to Re: Which withdrawal and tolerance is worse..., posted by kirkglen on November 12, 2014, at 8:21:51
I read that benzos deplete Biotin and have been taking Nature Made Biotin supplement. Wow, that's interesting about your experience! I havent taken it consistently. I will try it everyday and see. Thanks!
Posted by kirkglen on November 18, 2014, at 9:02:41
In reply to Re: Which withdrawal and tolerance is worse... » kirkglen, posted by gadchik on November 12, 2014, at 11:27:35
Gradchik
Remember I use the chewable from GNC. I don't think I digested the pill form.
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