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Posted by SLS on April 30, 2014, at 9:26:24
Tegretol vs. Trileptal
Which drug produces more sedation and fatigue?
Thanks.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on April 30, 2014, at 9:51:11
In reply to Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by SLS on April 30, 2014, at 9:26:24
Where you been? I was getting concerned about you. Only took trileptal at 150mg and felt nothing. Isn't it supposed to be better thought then the old tegregol? One more oxygen ion so something like that? Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 30, 2014, at 14:44:16
In reply to Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by SLS on April 30, 2014, at 9:26:24
> Tegretol vs. Trileptal
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> Which drug produces more sedation and fatigue?
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> Thanks.
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> - ScottI have very little true experience. Tegretol (especially the better tolerated prolonged release tabs) are often prescribed in the UK, mainly for epilepsy. It is usually fairly well tolerated provided that the dose is adjusted very carefully. Trileptal is hardly used here at all, for any indication!
Posted by SLS on April 30, 2014, at 16:51:12
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation? » SLS, posted by Phillipa on April 30, 2014, at 9:51:11
> Where you been? I was getting concerned about you. Only took trileptal at 150mg and felt nothing. Isn't it supposed to be better thought then the old tegregol? One more oxygen ion so something like that? Phillipa
I've been posting here and there. I'm not sure why, but I noticed that I have lost interest in doing a lot of things over the years. My interest in Psycho-Babble has been waning lately. I am now considering discontinuing Abilify, as I believe it is responsible for this disinterest and laziness. Actually, I have not taken Abilify for three days. It seems that my suspicions were warranted. I feel more motivated to get things done and fight the depression. Now, we must see if I deteriorate into a more severe depression without it.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on April 30, 2014, at 19:47:51
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by SLS on April 30, 2014, at 16:51:12
Is it possible at all for some sort of drug holiday? Less meds see if you gain some interest back? I know have been feeling bored myself. I wonder if some of it has to do with all the new names here? Maybe frequent fb more? Different reading material? Phillipa
Posted by Louisiana Sportsman on May 1, 2014, at 13:35:31
In reply to Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by SLS on April 30, 2014, at 9:26:24
> Tegretol vs. Trileptal
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> Which drug produces more sedation and fatigue?
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> Thanks.
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> - ScottWhat are your options about the Aptiom (eslicarbazepine acetate) I'm likely going to trial? 800mg. is the maintenance dose and they make a 800mg tablet you titrate to after a week. It's by the same company that formulated Latuda, which I'm a fan of. How about you try Aptiom with me?
Why not consider Oxtellar XR over Trileptal?
Posted by Louisiana Sportsman on May 1, 2014, at 13:43:28
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by Louisiana Sportsman on May 1, 2014, at 13:35:31
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Posted by phidippus on May 1, 2014, at 14:18:02
In reply to Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by SLS on April 30, 2014, at 9:26:24
Trileptal.
Eric
Posted by SLS on May 1, 2014, at 15:35:09
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation? » SLS, posted by phidippus on May 1, 2014, at 14:18:02
> Trileptal.
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> EricI am very surprised to hear this. I thought one of the advantages to Trileptal is that it produced less sedation than Tegretol. Thanks for clearing that up for me. A friend of mine is on Tegretol and was thinking of switching to Trileptal due to sedation and fatigue. Of course, these might be symptoms of depressive illness or his taking Suboxone.
Thanks again.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on May 1, 2014, at 15:39:58
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by Louisiana Sportsman on May 1, 2014, at 13:35:31
> > Tegretol vs. Trileptal
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> > Which drug produces more sedation and fatigue?
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> > Thanks.
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> > - Scott
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> What are your options about the Aptiom (eslicarbazepine acetate) I'm likely going to trial? 800mg. is the maintenance dose and they make a 800mg tablet you titrate to after a week. It's by the same company that formulated Latuda, which I'm a fan of. How about you try Aptiom with me?
>
> Why not consider Oxtellar XR over Trileptal?I am totally unfamiliar with these drugs. I hope your trial goes well.
:-)
I was inquiring on behalf of a friend of mine. Personally, I did not find Trileptal to be sedating, but I don't remember what dosage I worked up to.
- Scott
Posted by tom2228 on May 1, 2014, at 23:07:58
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by SLS on April 30, 2014, at 16:51:12
> > Where you been? I was getting concerned about you. Only took trileptal at 150mg and felt nothing. Isn't it supposed to be better thought then the old tegregol? One more oxygen ion so something like that? Phillipa
>
> I've been posting here and there. I'm not sure why, but I noticed that I have lost interest in doing a lot of things over the years. My interest in Psycho-Babble has been waning lately. I am now considering discontinuing Abilify, as I believe it is responsible for this disinterest and laziness. Actually, I have not taken Abilify for three days. It seems that my suspicions were warranted. I feel more motivated to get things done and fight the depression. Now, we must see if I deteriorate into a more severe depression without it.
>
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> - ScottScott give the Abilify at least two weeks off before you make any serious calls as the half-life of aripiprazole (75hrs) and its primary active metabolite (94hrs) are very long.. it might take two weeks for it to clear your system. then a few more weeks for the receptor "imprint" on your brain to revert to normal
basically what I'm saying is that if you reexperience depression it may be due to the process of coming off the abilify rather a reflection of how you might do without it.
in my case Abilify is helping my depression and anxiety but has seemed to sap my interest and motivation to succeed ah the tug-of-war of psych meds
Posted by SLS on May 2, 2014, at 11:07:31
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by tom2228 on May 1, 2014, at 23:07:58
Beaucoup thanks, Tom. You may have saved me from making a premature decision to restart the Abilify should depression or anxiety emerge over these next few weeks.
- Scott> > > Where you been? I was getting concerned about you. Only took trileptal at 150mg and felt nothing. Isn't it supposed to be better thought then the old tegregol? One more oxygen ion so something like that? Phillipa
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> > I've been posting here and there. I'm not sure why, but I noticed that I have lost interest in doing a lot of things over the years. My interest in Psycho-Babble has been waning lately. I am now considering discontinuing Abilify, as I believe it is responsible for this disinterest and laziness. Actually, I have not taken Abilify for three days. It seems that my suspicions were warranted. I feel more motivated to get things done and fight the depression. Now, we must see if I deteriorate into a more severe depression without it.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
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> Scott give the Abilify at least two weeks off before you make any serious calls as the half-life of aripiprazole (75hrs) and its primary active metabolite (94hrs) are very long.. it might take two weeks for it to clear your system. then a few more weeks for the receptor "imprint" on your brain to revert to normal
>
> basically what I'm saying is that if you reexperience depression it may be due to the process of coming off the abilify rather a reflection of how you might do without it.
>
> in my case Abilify is helping my depression and anxiety but has seemed to sap my interest and motivation to succeed ah the tug-of-war of psych meds
Posted by tom2228 on May 2, 2014, at 11:29:03
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by SLS on May 2, 2014, at 11:07:31
Happy to have been of help :) Have you also considered a lower dose to strike a balance between the AD effect and the interest issues?
> Beaucoup thanks, Tom. You may have saved me from making a premature decision to restart the Abilify should depression or anxiety emerge over these next few weeks.
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> - Scott
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> > > > Where you been? I was getting concerned about you. Only took trileptal at 150mg and felt nothing. Isn't it supposed to be better thought then the old tegregol? One more oxygen ion so something like that? Phillipa
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> > > I've been posting here and there. I'm not sure why, but I noticed that I have lost interest in doing a lot of things over the years. My interest in Psycho-Babble has been waning lately. I am now considering discontinuing Abilify, as I believe it is responsible for this disinterest and laziness. Actually, I have not taken Abilify for three days. It seems that my suspicions were warranted. I feel more motivated to get things done and fight the depression. Now, we must see if I deteriorate into a more severe depression without it.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
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> > Scott give the Abilify at least two weeks off before you make any serious calls as the half-life of aripiprazole (75hrs) and its primary active metabolite (94hrs) are very long.. it might take two weeks for it to clear your system. then a few more weeks for the receptor "imprint" on your brain to revert to normal
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> > basically what I'm saying is that if you reexperience depression it may be due to the process of coming off the abilify rather a reflection of how you might do without it.
> >
> > in my case Abilify is helping my depression and anxiety but has seemed to sap my interest and motivation to succeed ah the tug-of-war of psych meds
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Posted by ed_uk2010 on May 2, 2014, at 14:59:29
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation?, posted by SLS on May 2, 2014, at 11:07:31
Perhaps consider 5mg aripiprazole Scott?
Posted by SLS on May 2, 2014, at 16:30:17
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation? » SLS, posted by ed_uk2010 on May 2, 2014, at 14:59:29
> Perhaps consider 5mg aripiprazole Scott?
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>Yes, Ed. I certainly will consider that. If I relapse upon total discontinuation of Abilify, I will be forced to restart it. I will then try 5 mg/day. I am very impatient to get off of this thing. I have already started doing more chores around the than I have in years.
Thanks for you input, Ed.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on May 2, 2014, at 18:37:08
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation? » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on May 2, 2014, at 16:30:17
Scott that sounds like progress!! P
Posted by Sheilac on May 9, 2014, at 12:46:34
In reply to Re: Comparison: Tegretol vs. Trileptal - Sedation? » phidippus, posted by SLS on May 1, 2014, at 15:35:09
Trileptal. Been putting me to sleep for years. The next best thing was Seroquel for sleep. The benzodiazepines just aren't strong enough to knock me out.
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