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Posted by ihatedrugs on May 7, 2011, at 19:06:32
Has anyone heard of this? I looks promising at least for insomnia.
http://www.fisherwallace.com/?gclid=CM6GwueC16gCFZJe7Aodgw2sgQ
Posted by Phillipa on May 7, 2011, at 19:38:28
In reply to Fisher Wallace Stimulator, posted by ihatedrugs on May 7, 2011, at 19:06:32
Didn't it say out since 1991? Never heard of it? I'd feel that if worked we would have heard of it? Phillipa
Posted by BrainDamage on May 8, 2011, at 9:53:47
In reply to Fisher Wallace Stimulator, posted by ihatedrugs on May 7, 2011, at 19:06:32
Very interesting
I wonder though, it seems to good to be true?
Wouldn't we have heard more about it if it worked?
Or has it just been overlooked?This person likes it!
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110421080803AAS4kuj
Posted by floatingbridge on May 8, 2011, at 15:25:15
In reply to Fisher Wallace Stimulator, posted by ihatedrugs on May 7, 2011, at 19:06:32
ihd, is it like this thing called the Alpha Stim?
Did a doc show you this? Have you tried it once? This looks good. Alpha Stim was a real (shady) bust for me. I rented one briefly.
I'll keep looking at the site. Wow. Wouldn't it be great? What do you know about it?
Posted by ihatedrugs on May 11, 2011, at 22:49:54
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator » ihatedrugs, posted by floatingbridge on May 8, 2011, at 15:25:15
I asked my neurologist and he hadn't heard about it. But then again it's not like a big pharma rep would want him to know. I think the best bet to find out is to see how it has worked for the doctors in Columbia who are using it. Gosh, can you imagine if it actually worked. Anybody with an extra $600.00? I'm going to print the info and show it to my doctor.
Posted by Diego11 on July 25, 2012, at 16:43:12
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator, posted by BrainDamage on May 8, 2011, at 9:53:47
Posted by Diego11 on July 25, 2012, at 16:45:24
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator, posted by BrainDamage on May 8, 2011, at 9:53:47
I am thinking about buying this device. What are your thoughts/opinions on it ? Has anyone tried it yet ?
Posted by adrian85 on August 1, 2012, at 20:44:05
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator, posted by Diego11 on July 25, 2012, at 16:45:24
i think it works.
check out mindalive.com for research info.
i have an oasis pro, witch is more flex than the two other mentioned, as they are fixed at one frequency each o,5 hz and 100hz i think.
with mine I have several frequencies, from delta, theta, alpha and beta ++
this is old tech with alot of research. First used by the sovjets to make astronauts sleep. Hence the old popular name "russian sleep machine"
But: As always its not as "magic" as some producer may suggest. Could still be of some real value. I would look into HRV device like emwawe2 first, to calm the hart/stress before trying to calm (or energize) the brain.
Sorry for my bad language, im semi drunk and norwegian.
Posted by adrian85 on August 1, 2012, at 20:47:04
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator » Diego11, posted by adrian85 on August 1, 2012, at 20:44:05
Heard good thinks about the Neurotrek too, but it seems harder to get right now, as the last model is out of prod, and there seems to be some drama with the release of the new one. But its supposedly even more flexible than the Oasis.
The biohacker Dave Asprey uses the old neurotrek and seems really happy with it, check his blog Bulletproofexec.com. I view him as credible on many topics, though am not a "true believer" having him as a guru or anything
I feel like it works for me. I dial it up to a Beta frequency in the morning for energy/attention, and maybe a more relaxing delta, theta or alpha in the evening.
Posted by Diego11 on August 5, 2012, at 14:57:41
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator, posted by adrian85 on August 1, 2012, at 20:47:04
adrian, thanks for your report!
I wonder, How long have you been using your Oasis device? and for what type of condition have you used it ?
Posted by adrian85 on August 7, 2012, at 12:29:06
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator, posted by Diego11 on August 5, 2012, at 14:57:41
Used it this summer.
Plan is to try it for focus and concentration when i resume my studies in a couple of weeks.
So far i´ve used it for energi/wake up in the morning some days (usually low-beta hz)
And for relaxation/anti-anxiety/sleep in evenings (Im not mentally ill, so cant say its cured me)
feels like it works, stops mental chatter/inner voice type thing.
Pete Townshend, guitar legened of the Who said it was the nr. 1 thing that made him quit drugs (some CES device, not the oasis i think). And other ppl i generally trust seems to feel like its legit.
For anxiety depression I would def start with an emwawe though, and CES too if moneys no issue, or CES later.
Emwawe (hart rate variability device) is def legit. Stress-buster. its like meditation on steroids and smart drugs. Place your thumb on the device and try to make the light turn green, good sh*t. (they give you techniques to make it happen)
Cheers
Posted by Diego11 on August 8, 2012, at 6:10:27
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator » Diego11, posted by adrian85 on August 7, 2012, at 12:29:06
my goal is finding a device that would be perfectly works for my anxiety disorder, OCD a depression. Until now,I have wanted to buy Fisher Wallace Stlimulator device, but I have also checked an emwawe device and it seems to be about half the price cheaper. And then, there is also Neurotrek device and perhaps many other...so, I really do not know where should I invest my money ?
Until now, I've thrown a lot of money for my whole treatment, so I'm pretty careful now.
Posted by adrian85 on August 8, 2012, at 6:53:37
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator, posted by Diego11 on August 8, 2012, at 6:10:27
One more thing..
I think you need a prescription for some of the CESs in USA, maybe that means you can get your insurance to pay for it? i don´t know, not american.
Posted by Diego11 on August 8, 2012, at 15:25:12
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator » Diego11, posted by adrian85 on August 8, 2012, at 6:53:37
yes, you are right, for FWS device i will need a doctors prescription(but it is not a big deal) and I would highly doubt that my insurance would cover it(even if I have a valid prescription).
Posted by Diego11 on August 15, 2012, at 20:41:27
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator » Diego11, posted by adrian85 on August 8, 2012, at 6:53:37
Adrian, I have decided to order any of CES devices and try if it will work for my anxiety disorder. I really do not have any ideas for what type/brand of CES device should I decide, but (in my opinion) the most promising looks Nerutrek digital Pro 3 and Delight Pro devices. Recently I have want to place my order on elixa.com site, but they sent me this mail regarding the Neurotrek Digital Pro 3 :
"I doubt that anyone has received the new version. In fact, I have heard from several who paid for it but have not gotten it. The manufacturer has a long history of poor business practices. Buyer beware."
Is this true ? Do you have any informations that confirm their statement ?
Alternatively, What CES device would you recommend me (for my anxiety, social phobia) ?
Thank you in advance !
P.S: How are you getting on with your Oasis device ?
Posted by Tomatheus on August 15, 2012, at 20:47:25
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator » Diego11, posted by adrian85 on August 7, 2012, at 12:29:06
> So far i´ve used it for energi/wake up in the morning some days (usually low-beta hz)
Adrian85,
Which device is this that makes you feel more energetic and makes waking up in the morning easier? This sounds like something that I could use.
Please let me know more.
Tomatheus
Posted by adrian85 on August 16, 2012, at 2:11:12
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator, posted by Diego11 on August 15, 2012, at 20:41:27
No,
I don´t know any more than you. I heard those xact same things, therefore went for the Oasis pro. No Problems with it. Their company Mindalive is also looking very credible in my op.
i think that would satisfy your needs. I mean total flex (Meaning you can choose any frequency like neurotrek) may be more for pros - and can lead to frustration. Because you must find the xact ones that work. Wile the six pre-set ones on the oasis (or others) are "tried and true" (I think specially for anxiety/stress/sleep/depression/add.)
Again MindAlive.org is good place for Info (also external), and it´s Canadian, and I think that makes it easier to get without prescription etc.
I do not work for them or anything, I also wanted the Neurotrek (but then again - it´s made by just one guy, with a questionable rep. - but apparently some skills).
I´m just a norwegian Bio-hacker.
The emWave2 is something I think EVERYONE should get. Even Dalei Lama attests to that sh*t. (i´m an atheist by the way - if it matters). Keyword: BANG FOR BUCK..
Good general info: http://www.bulletproofexec.com/how-heartmath-training-helps-you-live-longer/
http://www.heartmath.com/personal-use/emwave-science-behind.html
I think Resetting your Breathing/heart-rythm first (emWave) for five min (its all it takes), and then relaxing hooked up to a CES would be really good for you, and anyone else..
Excuse my poor english
Good luck to You
Adrian
Posted by adrian85 on August 16, 2012, at 2:13:00
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator » adrian85, posted by Tomatheus on August 15, 2012, at 20:47:25
Just read this tread. Sorry, too tired to type it all again.
Adrian
Posted by adrian85 on August 16, 2012, at 2:25:24
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator » adrian85, posted by Tomatheus on August 15, 2012, at 20:47:25
For waking up,
Also check out bulletproof coffee, bulletproofexec.com. It´s great, sounds bizzare to put butter in coffe, but it tastes amazing..
Armodafinil (stronger than modafinil - but mostly the same) is also doing wonders for me (I get that from mymodafinil.com, because modafinil is sched. A in Norrway for some reason - like Heroin, Speed etc wile armodafinil isn´t registered.)
http://www.bulletproofexec.com/video-cnn-interview-about-provigil/
http://www.bulletproofexec.com/why-you-are-suffering-from-a-modafinil-deficiency/
Good info, from a guy who´s totally open about his use of this. His wife is a doctor, and he runs a 20 year old anti-aging inst. aside from his regular VP job, and his very popular blog)
Adrian
Posted by Tomatheus on August 16, 2012, at 13:24:11
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator (waking up!) » Tomatheus, posted by adrian85 on August 16, 2012, at 2:25:24
Adrian85,
Thank you for the information on bulletproof coffee and armodafinil. The bulletproof coffee looks like it would be worth trying some time. As for armodafinil, I'm really glad that you're having good results with it, but it probably wouldn't be a good option for me, considering that I noticed a worsening of psychotic symptoms when I tried taking a related drug (adrafinil/Olmifon) a few years back. I was waking up earlier than usual when I was taking adrafinil, but unfortunately, my ideas of reference became too much for me after three days on the medication and I felt like I had no other choice but to stop it.
Is the device that you used for energy the Oasis device? Is this it here: http://www.neuromonics.com/?page_id=93 ?
Please feel free to respond when you get a chance.
Tomatheus
Posted by adrian85 on August 16, 2012, at 13:50:24
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator (waking up!) » adrian85, posted by Tomatheus on August 16, 2012, at 13:24:11
No, i think it´s something different. (no time to research right now)
The device im talking about is a cranial elctro-stimulation device.
This one: http://www.mindalive.com/Products_OASIS_Pro.htm
Read up on the mindalive page. Lots of info on CES usage, research etc. Relaxation or energy: it´s all about the frequency you use. The ficher wallace is mostly for sleep/anxiety/relax.
Oasis has that too, but is more flexible.
Posted by Tomatheus on August 16, 2012, at 14:06:48
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator (waking up!) » Tomatheus, posted by adrian85 on August 16, 2012, at 13:50:24
Adrian85,
Thank you for the information. I'll definitely take a look at the mindalive link that you posted, and I very well may end up trying the Oasis device. I appreciate all of your help!
Tomatheus
Posted by adrian85 on August 16, 2012, at 14:33:02
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator (waking up!) » adrian85, posted by Tomatheus on August 16, 2012, at 14:06:48
No problem.
glad to, good luck too you. Deprenyl/phenylananine something you have considered? I take those too, + a nootropic stack Aniracetam/dmea/Sulbutiamine + bunch of amino acids A-l-car and l-glutamine.I mean, one month ago I quit benzo/street-speed/weed cold turkey, pretty depressed for few weeks. Went on a shopping spree online, and now its like speed with no ill effects.. hope it lasts.
Posted by Tomatheus on August 16, 2012, at 16:09:22
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator (waking up!) » Tomatheus, posted by adrian85 on August 16, 2012, at 14:33:02
Adrian85,
I have tried selegiline (Deprenyl) and phenylalanine separately, but not together. The phenylalanine produced some decent effects for about a week when I took it last, but ultimately seemed to lose its effectiveness. When I took selegiline, I noticed a decent antidepressant effect for about three days, followed by agitation and cognitive impairment. Selegiline and phenylalanine together might produce some synergy, but it's the agitation and the cognitive impairment from the selegiline that have kept me away from taking it again (with or without something else).
I think it's good that you seem to be doing well for the time being with all of the medications, supplements, and nootropics that you're taking, and I too hope that you get lasting benefits from your combo. I also think it's really good that you've been able to quit benzos, street speed, and weed, and I wish you continued success in keeping away from those drugs.
Of the nootropics and supplements that you're taking, Sulbutiamine is the only one that I haven't tried. I think it looks interesting and may give try it at some point.
Well, thank you again for all of your suggestions. As I see it, the more options that I have for the management of my anergic/vegetative depression, the better. And again, I hope that you keep getting good results from your combo of medications, supplements, and nootropics.
Take care,
Tomatheus
Posted by adrian85 on August 16, 2012, at 16:27:26
In reply to Re: Fisher Wallace Stimulator (waking up!) » adrian85, posted by Tomatheus on August 16, 2012, at 16:09:22
selgiline is all about dosage I think. Many rave about the two together. I take the Phen. on empty stomach when I wake up. Deprenyl after just a little fat (for absorption).
Felt good anti-depressing effects from it. Then my armodafinil came in the mail (after two months - i had really written it of), and now I think that is the main energizer.
Deprenyl have rep. for cognitive enhancement.. partly why I take it.. but everyone is different.
Vitamin D and Magnesium is key I think for almost everyone. 5000 Iu´s I take of D, and 400-600 mg Mag Citrate (form matters as I understand)
I know, sounds crazy with such a cocktail, but most of the supplements should be safe, based on my research.
Also tried Adrafinil, felt very different. Less effect, but more "dirty" + liver damage possibility. Much longer time to come on. Armodafinil I can take in bed and feel awake 20 mins later. Adrafinil feels like it takes 1,5 hrs.
Thanks and Good luck to yourself
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