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Posted by myco on February 23, 2009, at 11:32:36
Hey all,
Has anyone used, or known to be used successfully, Lyrica or Gabapentin for induction of sleep at night. Im using temazepam a few times a week but am still currently searching for a decent sleep aid for the other nights of the week...seroquel will most likely be the go to but perhaps Lyrica can work?
Please advise, Dr talk comes shortly
thnx
myco
Posted by Vincent_QC on February 23, 2009, at 11:52:53
In reply to LYRICA/Gabapentin decent for SLEEP? anyone know?, posted by myco on February 23, 2009, at 11:32:36
> Hey all,
>
> Has anyone used, or known to be used successfully, Lyrica or Gabapentin for induction of sleep at night. Im using temazepam a few times a week but am still currently searching for a decent sleep aid for the other nights of the week...seroquel will most likely be the go to but perhaps Lyrica can work?
>
> Please advise, Dr talk comes shortly
>
> thnx
> mycoHi Myco,
I try the Gabapentin for 3 months at high dosage, and it was at daytime, I never experience sedation on it...even if I was taking Rivotril at the same time, so I guess it's not a good choice as a sleep aid.I try also the Lyrica but not for a long time. It was more powerfull than the Gabapentin and I got a lot of sedation in it, so I was taking it at bedtime...SO I guess the Lyrica can be a more good choice as a sleep aid...
For the Seroquel, I'm now taking 50mg of regular release of Seroquel as a sleep aid. It working well the first month, now, the sedation begin to fade away, but i'm not sure if I want to augment my dosage to 75mg, since I have already a daytime sedation problem with no energy at all...even if I drink 10 coffees... I just feel lazy...with no motivation at all...and it's not related to the Seroquel cause I was like this before I begin to use it at bedtime... My daytime sedation is not worst than before the Seroquel also...
So it's your choice, you can try the Seroquel, the regular release put you asleep in 20 minutes...the first month I was sleeeping more than 7 hours by night...That's probably better than just sleep 1-2 hours like I was doing before...Now I sleep around 4 hours...The antihistamine effect fade away with time...I think that I read somewhere that the dosage of Seroquel can go to 200mg as a sleep aid...not sure about this one.
Some people also answer well to the Trazodone...I try it and it was not a good choice for me, I had too much daytime sedation and strange side-effects the day after...I drop it after 3 days...
Some people can also find the Benadryl helpfull as a sleep aid...but not me... Unisom2, the one made with another drug than the regular Diphenhydramine is aparently more powerfull, it's made with Doxylamine succinate...it'S avaible OCT in some drugstore...sometimes you have to order it...
I hope it can help you...
Take care of you!
Vincent ;-)
Posted by Phillipa on February 23, 2009, at 12:29:31
In reply to Re: LYRICA/Gabapentin decent for SLEEP? anyone know? » myco, posted by Vincent_QC on February 23, 2009, at 11:52:53
I've read here that lyrica can be good for anxiety but depends on doseage. Try the archieves. Love Phillipa
Posted by Neal on February 23, 2009, at 15:01:19
In reply to LYRICA/Gabapentin decent for SLEEP? anyone know?, posted by myco on February 23, 2009, at 11:32:36
Hey myco,
See my thread - 5 threads earlier than this one. From personal experience, 900mg to 1200mg gabapentin will knock me out, with the help of regular meds. Just don't take that dose during the day unless you want to play the role of a drunk.
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Posted by myco on February 23, 2009, at 15:18:57
In reply to Re: LYRICA/Gabapentin decent for SLEEP? anyone know? » myco, posted by Neal on February 23, 2009, at 15:01:19
Hey,
is that a standard dose thats ok with a dr? im dealing with moronic gps here, anything above and behond recommended dosage on the monograph or in their simplistic walnut is mesmorizing to them and unattainable for me
myco
> Hey myco,
>
> See my thread - 5 threads earlier than this one. From personal experience, 900mg to 1200mg gabapentin will knock me out, with the help of regular meds. Just don't take that dose during the day unless you want to play the role of a drunk.
>
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Posted by Neal on February 23, 2009, at 17:37:47
In reply to Re: LYRICA/Gabapentin decent for SLEEP? anyone know? » Neal, posted by myco on February 23, 2009, at 15:18:57
re: gabapentin,
yeh, I know it sounds like a huge amount but it's standard - at least in USA. I've have heard of dosages of as much as 3600mg/day spread out over a day.
Again diminishing returns with repeated doses over the day. Wait till an hour before bedtime. It's pretty safe med., just watch-out for dizzyness or drunken walking effects if take the larger doses; wait till bedtime and get to bed on time, otherwise you might collide with the doorpost. Don't take large dose and go to work.I'm talking from personal experience plus what I've gathered. Best to you
Posted by Neal on February 23, 2009, at 21:15:30
In reply to Re: LYRICA/Gabapentin decent for SLEEP? anyone know?, posted by Neal on February 23, 2009, at 17:37:47
one trick i remember from when i used gabapentin for sleep as it wears off quickly (3-4 hours), i would sometime take it again and it would work again although less well... it's fairly cheap, just went generic.
Posted by myco on February 23, 2009, at 22:31:26
In reply to Re: LYRICA/Gabapentin decent for SLEEP? anyone know?, posted by Neal on February 23, 2009, at 21:15:30
Posted by Vincent_QC on February 24, 2009, at 13:19:05
In reply to Thnx Neal (nm) » Neal, posted by myco on February 23, 2009, at 22:31:26
You see, it's relative to everyone experience. The Gabapentin dont have a long half-life, so it's why you need to take a huge amount of pills every 3 or 4 hours...I also take the maximum dosage of 3600mg /day with no sedation at all. The fact that the half-life of the Gabapentin is short, it's less suitable as a sleep aid!!! It's probably why someone who will use it as a sleep aid will sleep only 3-4 hours in a row and need to get up and take another extra dose to sleep again... For the drunk feeling or anxiolitic effect of the Gabapentin, that's also relative to each person who use the Gabapetin, for me, it does nothing, I never get any improve on it, I don't even feel something on it, I just experienced a lot of pins and needles all over my bodies when I was in a situation of social anxiety...
The Lyrica have a more long half-life and put me asleep A LOT more than the Gabapentin... This is probably the more logical choice as a sleep aid...
If you can take the Seroquel (regular version) it's also very good and don't make you feel sick the day after, start maybe at 25mg/bedtime and you can augment it to 50mg/bedtime...
That's my advice...We are all different, so that's my experience with gaba-B meds...
Posted by Neal on February 24, 2009, at 23:03:05
In reply to Re: Thnx Neal » myco, posted by Vincent_QC on February 24, 2009, at 13:19:05
"That's my advice...We are all different"
so true. That the difference between meds for our problems and other meds. It's not like Aspirin. What works for one will not necessarily work for another.
Wish I knew why that was
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