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Posted by Cseagraves on January 13, 2009, at 19:16:15
I think the remeron I'm supposed be taking at night for sleep is causing horrid and vivid dreams. Is it o.k. to take seroquel on parnate?
Hopefully will be switching to parnate in a couple of weeks and don't want to take the seroquel if it will keep pdoc from prescribing me the parnate. It's not an ssri, correct?
Thanks,
Courtney
Posted by Justherself54 on January 13, 2009, at 19:28:33
In reply to CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE?, posted by Cseagraves on January 13, 2009, at 19:16:15
I took seroquel for sleep with Nardil and Parnate. It is not a SSRI. I had to increase it with Nardil but 25 mg. was OK on Parnate.
Posted by desolationrower on January 16, 2009, at 1:01:23
In reply to Re: CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE? » Cseagraves, posted by Justherself54 on January 13, 2009, at 19:28:33
sure, i mean it might well increase blood pressure and do the same thing as some drugs that any pdoc would say "you can't combine that with an MAOI, thats DANGEROUS!". but yeah, its not a problem.
-d/r
Posted by Cseagraves on January 16, 2009, at 12:39:44
In reply to Re: CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE?, posted by desolationrower on January 16, 2009, at 1:01:23
COOOOOLLL! Have been taking seroquel (25mgs.)for the last couple of nights. Sleep is better and dreams are not as bad.
Can I just whine for a second and say that IT'S FREAKIN COLD DOWN HERE!!!!!
They said on the news today that it hasn't been this cold in Georgia 6 years!!!
BRRRRRRRR!!!
Courtney
Posted by Vincent_QC on January 16, 2009, at 14:29:50
In reply to Re: CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE?, posted by Cseagraves on January 16, 2009, at 12:39:44
> COOOOOLLL! Have been taking seroquel (25mgs.)for the last couple of nights. Sleep is better and dreams are not as bad.
>
> Can I just whine for a second and say that IT'S FREAKIN COLD DOWN HERE!!!!!
>
> They said on the news today that it hasn't been this cold in Georgia 6 years!!!
>
> BRRRRRRRR!!!
>
> Courtney
>
>Come visit us in the Canada , Quebec city exactly...you will see how it can be cold outside... -32 celcius last night...so around -25.6 in fahrenheit degrees...that's COLD...lol
Humm BTW...Seroquel is safe with Parnate...I use them together for a couple of weeks without any problems...
Now that i'm off the Parnate, I take 25mg of the regular Seroquel at bedtime and it's ok...I mean I dream a lot, probably because I stop the Parnate but I prefer vivid dreams than insomnia. Remeron was worst for dreams if I remember well...When I was on the Lexapro and I stop it cold turkey, I take for a couple of nights some Remeron to help me to sleep and it was crazy as hell...I think it was more related to the fact that I stop the Lexapro...
I just have one complaint about the Seroquel...I feel a little bit dizzy for maybe 30 minutes after I wake up...With coffee I can encounter this...The worst drug to put me asleep was Trazodone...I always had really bad days after...with a lot of dizziness...a whole pot of coffee was not able to wake me up and clear that dizziness...lol
Posted by Cseagraves on January 16, 2009, at 15:43:49
In reply to Re: CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE? » Cseagraves, posted by Vincent_QC on January 16, 2009, at 14:29:50
I agree. Pdoc tried to give me trazodone (see my other post above) made me feel worse in every way and then the vomitting started. Will be starting parnate on Feb. 5th. Hopefully this will work.
As for the weather, well you can just have all that. I live way down here to avoid this stuff. Guess I'll just have to move further south. LOL!!! I wouldn't know how to deal with temps as low as yours. I know people up north think we are whiney down here, but people need to remember that we are not conditioned to exremely cold weather.
So when it does hit us, it really HITS us. (I SWEAR I BELONG ON A BEACH)!!!!
Shivering here!!!
Smiles :-)))
Courtney
Posted by VIncent_QC on January 17, 2009, at 9:28:45
In reply to Re: CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE?, posted by Cseagraves on January 16, 2009, at 15:43:49
> I agree. Pdoc tried to give me trazodone (see my other post above) made me feel worse in every way and then the vomitting started. Will be starting parnate on Feb. 5th. Hopefully this will work.
>
> As for the weather, well you can just have all that. I live way down here to avoid this stuff. Guess I'll just have to move further south. LOL!!! I wouldn't know how to deal with temps as low as yours. I know people up north think we are whiney down here, but people need to remember that we are not conditioned to exremely cold weather.
>
> So when it does hit us, it really HITS us. (I SWEAR I BELONG ON A BEACH)!!!!
>
> Shivering here!!!
>
> Smiles :-)))
>
> CourtneyHi Courtney :-)
I wish you good luck with the Parnate...I just withdraw from it 5 days ago. Too much side-effects for me in the departement of "heart" and "blood pressure"... Very good for social phobia and anxiety but the worst for side-effects...I mean dangerous side-effects...Normally all the newer drugs SSRI's or SRNI's have more side-effects but no really danger, I mean it's always the same side-effects, tiredness, lack of motivation, lack of energy, apathy, sexual dysfonction...Anyway...if you can take it and live with the side-effects of the Parnate that will be a good experience for you...I hope ;-) Maybe you will be lucky and feel no side-effect at all...that's what I really hope for you ;-) Overall, Parnate was more efficient for my social anxiety than the Nardil, both of them have their own side-effect profile, very different...but I prefer the Nardil...And for the "amphetamine effect" of similar chimical structure, I never found the Parnate to be a lot stimulating...in fact, I was more tired on it at daytime...and especially in the evening...but major insomnia problem at night...so it's why the Seroquel can be very helpfull!!!
Someone told me that last night I do a lot of noises when I was asleep...Since I don't remember if I dream or not, I can assume that at least, my dreams never goes to the vivid dreams state...I double my dose last night, 50mg of regular Seroquel...cause I find that the Seroquel at 25 mg tend to decrease in efficiency after a while and I sleep like a baby...close my eyes around 1 AM and wake up at 8:30 AM...with no dizness sentation...but I still feel tired as hell...Strange...Anyway...
Humm for the weather, do you really think that people up in the north are conditioned to exremely cold weather like this? lol No way...we are conditioned to cold weather around -10 to -15 celcius...but not -32 or worse, -35 celsius like this morning!!! lol Unfortunately, I can't move more to the south...or just travel to the south...i'm disable from work so no money, no funny (french expression here...sorry...lol).
Anyway, I hate winter!!! lol
Well, give me some updates about your Parnate experience ok ;-) ...it should be helpfull i'm sure... Remember that i'm a lot sensible to the side-effects of all the "drugs" so i'm not a good example to follow...Stay positive and i'm sure everything will be fine ;-)
Take care!
Vince ;-)
Posted by Cseagraves on January 17, 2009, at 11:49:43
In reply to Re: CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE? » Cseagraves, posted by VIncent_QC on January 17, 2009, at 9:28:45
Vincent,
I'm sure your right. No one is conditioned to those extreme temps. My sister got brave once and moved to Michigan (Lake Huron). She would tell me how her eyebrows and eyelashes would freeze when she walked outside. Can't imagine. Anyway, she moved back home within a year. LOL!!
Georgia's summers however are miserable for a lot of people. 100 degrees outside with 95% humidity can be very hard for some. Thats why people with extreme allergies or asthma can't tolerate it here. I've seen people move down here from the north and can't tolerate the summers here. Those of us who are born here are more conditioned to it. My hubby loves it here in the summers. The hotter the better he says.
I forgot what northern state it happened in, but did you here abut the guy who walked in his sleep? He walked outside at night and died of hypothermia. Can you believe????
Anyhow, thanks for your support with the parnate. I'm so desperate to get myself back. Listening to everyone's post with their different experiences has been alot of help. At least I feel better about what I am getting into. I have been on and off so many ssri's with there side-effects and withdrawals, that I'm prepared to face them again, going on the parnate (Am hoping I am one of the ones who responds well and quickly).
I just want something to work. Tired of being on this never ending rollercoaster ride.
By the way, my father-in-law had gastic by-pass surgery last week. I saw him last night and he was already showing off his 9lb. weight loss. LOL!!!
Take care and be well.
Courtney
Posted by Vincent_QC on January 17, 2009, at 14:43:35
In reply to Re: CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE?, posted by Cseagraves on January 17, 2009, at 11:49:43
> Vincent,
>
> I'm sure your right. No one is conditioned to those extreme temps. My sister got brave once and moved to Michigan (Lake Huron). She would tell me how her eyebrows and eyelashes would freeze when she walked outside. Can't imagine. Anyway, she moved back home within a year. LOL!!
>
> Georgia's summers however are miserable for a lot of people. 100 degrees outside with 95% humidity can be very hard for some. Thats why people with extreme allergies or asthma can't tolerate it here. I've seen people move down here from the north and can't tolerate the summers here. Those of us who are born here are more conditioned to it. My hubby loves it here in the summers. The hotter the better he says.
>
> I forgot what northern state it happened in, but did you here abut the guy who walked in his sleep? He walked outside at night and died of hypothermia. Can you believe????
>
> Anyhow, thanks for your support with the parnate. I'm so desperate to get myself back. Listening to everyone's post with their different experiences has been alot of help. At least I feel better about what I am getting into. I have been on and off so many ssri's with there side-effects and withdrawals, that I'm prepared to face them again, going on the parnate (Am hoping I am one of the ones who responds well and quickly).
>
> I just want something to work. Tired of being on this never ending rollercoaster ride.
>
> By the way, my father-in-law had gastic by-pass surgery last week. I saw him last night and he was already showing off his 9lb. weight loss. LOL!!!
>
> Take care and be well.
>
> Courtney
>
>Hi !
Hummm gastric by-pass...you mean the one who work by restriction , I mean he will not be able to eat a lot after...? The one I had is rare...they don't do this surgery in a lot of hospital...In the States, they tend to do more "real" by-pass which implies restriction on food absorbation after, the one I had work with "malabsorbtion", mean that I can eat what I want, in normal quantity, but I absorb maybe 25% to 40% of the calories from the food, the fat absorbtion is near the 5% maximum level...All this process implies that they cut the intestine in the part where the fat is absorb...and to my displeasure, it's the place where all the drugs are digest and absorb...so now, drugs don't work well on me... Mean that all the LA or SR or XR formulations don't work, I absorb probably only 25% of the drug in my blood...The older drugs with regular mechanism of absorbation are absorbed at 75% maybe...so since I had this surgery, I have a big difficulty to fiond the good drug to help me...No Doctors can't answer to me about how many drugs I absorb in my system now...even the "Surgeon" who pratice the surgery on me...
I assume I donÉ'T absorb a lot of drugs, since I have to take very high amount of fat soluble vitamins (A- 30000 units day, D-50000 units day, K, Iron 900mg day + 1 I.V. treatment by month because of severe anemia, calcium 1500 mg day, potassium, magnesium and 3 complete multi-vitamins...)... And my blood test are so so , even with high doses of vitamins like this...SO I guess the drugs don't get absorb very well...
That's another mystery of life...We always have to pay the price of what we choose to do in the life and the actions and decisions we take...
Anyway...good luck ok and take care of you! ;-)
Bye!
Vincen ;-)
Posted by desolationrower on January 18, 2009, at 4:55:12
In reply to Re: CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE? » Cseagraves, posted by Vincent_QC on January 17, 2009, at 14:43:35
Do you take high level fish oil too?
I went skiing in quebec once...it was below 0 most of the time, i think i prefer when i can just wear a sweater instead
-d/r
Posted by Cseagraves on January 18, 2009, at 13:38:05
In reply to Re: CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE?, posted by desolationrower on January 18, 2009, at 4:55:12
Hey D/S.
Yes, I take Udo's Oil Blend everyday. It's a combo of Omega's 3,6 and 9. Is that bad?
CS
Posted by desolationrower on January 23, 2009, at 1:09:24
In reply to Re: CAN I TAKE SEROQUEL ON PARNATE?, posted by Cseagraves on January 18, 2009, at 13:38:05
its not bad, its just kind of a waste. IN general, noone needs more omega-6 oils. these are polyunsaturated fats found in things like corn oil. everyone gets too much. Omega-9 are 'healthy', but you don't really need to supplement with them (they are monofats) instead just use a bit more olive oil or eat a few almonds: i prefer as much as possible to get nutrients from food,s because foods are tasty. I'm not sure what kind of omega-3 udos has, but generally fish oil is the best, although vegans i'd recommend the algae dha oil. fish oil has both dha & EPA which are the biologically useful omega-3 fats you can't get other than in minute quantities from most foods.
-d/r
-d/r
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