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Posted by tepi on December 15, 2008, at 22:31:09
Okkk , I started today the Modafinil
(together with NArdil and Xanax)
Las friday I told a girl (while drunk) that If she wanted to be my girlfriend , I like her
She was gonna tell me later I think, and I try to go out with her today. We went to some salsa classes ( dancing clases ) and I had a realyy bad time . What is wrong with mee
Im so worried about everything that is my life is not life ! . I just looked at her face how boried she was ( my mind was telling me that of course , maybe it was true maye dont , but what the hell ! ) . I was so quiet that other men started to talk with her , I felt like an idiot and I had to leave the place , I left her. I went to an store and I bougth 2 beers to feel better. I drank them and them I return . I was feeling better and I was not so worried about anything .
I still have the effects of the alcohol , I love them ! but I know ALCOHOL is not the exit , well that`s what wveybody says.
I invited her to go out next wednesday but I man had invited her in front of me to another first
She said she can go with me because of that
Anyway , Im not gonna remind her about my question of being my girlok what is wrong with me ! .
I only took 100mg of Modafinil in the morning
but I did not feel ANYTHING !! . I thougth it had a fast effect like benzos
Im not waiting that this med fix my life , but I have some kind of hope that I can improve a little bit . Ok maybe I need more time and dose rigthTell me something. Everything may sound so easy to handle but you cant imagine how painful this is
for me. its amazing how so simple things can destroy a life
Posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2008, at 23:27:01
In reply to I leave a place running, posted by tepi on December 15, 2008, at 22:31:09
Tepi I know. Can you take modafinil with nardil what is it? Thanks and love Phillipa. ps can you see a therapist also? Just a though?
Posted by 10derHeart on December 15, 2008, at 23:43:10
In reply to Re: I leave a place running » tepi, posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2008, at 23:27:01
Modafinil is Provigil.
Posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2008, at 23:58:02
In reply to Re: I leave a place running, posted by 10derHeart on December 15, 2008, at 23:43:10
Thanks Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on December 16, 2008, at 0:01:34
In reply to I leave a place running, posted by tepi on December 15, 2008, at 22:31:09
Tepi they are not little things. I don't feel the beer helped. But you were out dancing with a girl that sounds like a great improvement from last post. Still working the long hours? I care you know. Love Phillipa
Posted by henryo on December 16, 2008, at 3:20:15
In reply to Re: I leave a place running » tepi, posted by Phillipa on December 16, 2008, at 0:01:34
I leave a place running
Posted by Sigismund on December 16, 2008, at 4:20:16
In reply to I leave a place running, posted by tepi on December 15, 2008, at 22:31:09
Tep, you are throwing yourself in the deep end taking a girl to salsa classes.
Everyone tells me that salsa is fun, but I'm not convinced.
It's like you have to loosen up and if you can't, you're a failure.
I worry about any dancing at all.But Tep, I can imagine. I can even remember.
Posted by Jakeo29 on December 16, 2008, at 11:21:05
In reply to Re: I leave a place running, posted by Sigismund on December 16, 2008, at 4:20:16
Hi, Tepi,
I know the social situation feeling, I have left a place running and have an autistic outburst burning the bridges behind me many horrible times. It can be so darn hard socially sometimes as you lose all your friends to to stigma and misunderstanding. As with the Provigil, I did not feel anything at 100 mg either, it actually made me tired. However, 400 mg is a nice wakeful feeling. I think many people need higher doses of Provigil before they feel it. Some people may not feel it at all as it works as a stimulant in a very specific part of the brain. If it makes you anxious at 200-400 mg, it may not be an effective medication for you. You should not have any problems with the Nardil-Provigil combo, just keep an eye on blood pressure. Ritalin may be better, but that is very hairy when it comes to an MAOI. However, have you considered EMSAM already?, it seemed to have a better "provigil-Ritalin like" boost than Nardil and that helped me socially and motivationally, as EMSAM works with Dopamine as Selegiline and small amounts of "converted in the body" Levo-Amphetamine (not Dextro). -Jake
Posted by paddo on December 16, 2008, at 17:51:20
In reply to Re: I leave a place running, posted by Jakeo29 on December 16, 2008, at 11:21:05
Have you spoken to your psychdoctor or therapist before or after this experience. I really admire that you took a chance. The (grog monster) beer whatever as a young person helped me in those formative years just a little ..till it became a crutch of sorts. This not a joke when i did a runner i found out that i could really run. So took up that and later cycling , did a lot to build self esteem. If one feels fit..the normal working drugs in chosen sport whatever do more good then harm. Young woman admire individuals that look after their health. Food for thought. Keep doing the best you can. The runner has to be experienced to be believed. paddo
Posted by JadeKelly on December 16, 2008, at 18:47:18
In reply to I leave a place running, posted by tepi on December 15, 2008, at 22:31:09
>
> Okkk , I started today the Modafinil
> (together with NArdil and Xanax)
> Las friday I told a girl (while drunk) that If she wanted to be my girlfriend , I like her
> She was gonna tell me later I think, and I try to go out with her today. We went to some salsa classes ( dancing clases ) and I had a realyy bad time . What is wrong with mee
> Im so worried about everything that is my life is not life ! . I just looked at her face how boried she was ( my mind was telling me that of course , maybe it was true maye dont , but what the hell ! ) . I was so quiet that other men started to talk with her , I felt like an idiot and I had to leave the place , I left her. I went to an store and I bougth 2 beers to feel better. I drank them and them I return . I was feeling better and I was not so worried about anything .
> I still have the effects of the alcohol , I love them ! but I know ALCOHOL is not the exit , well that`s what wveybody says.
> I invited her to go out next wednesday but I man had invited her in front of me to another first
> She said she can go with me because of that
> Anyway , Im not gonna remind her about my question of being my girl
>
> ok what is wrong with me ! .
>
> I only took 100mg of Modafinil in the morning
> but I did not feel ANYTHING !! . I thougth it had a fast effect like benzos
> Im not waiting that this med fix my life , but I have some kind of hope that I can improve a little bit . Ok maybe I need more time and dose rigth
>
> Tell me something. Everything may sound so easy to handle but you cant imagine how painful this is
> for me. its amazing how so simple things can destroy a life
>
>
>
>
>
Hi Tepi,(nice to finally meet you by the way) Since I don't know you, I'm in the unique position to tell you what I see from the outside. Not knowing your diagnosis, other than what I can gather in a paragraph, I can only base my picture on that.
Oh, first, I hate provigil. I don't suffer from anxiety, it made me an anxious wreck. Two, unless your an alcoholic, people drink, often to have the nerve to meet people of the opposite sex, don't be too hard on yourself. Just don't make a habit of it. A couple, yeah, girls don't tend to like sloppy drunk guys. So you were brave enough to ask her to be your girlfriend, you were brave enough to ask her out, you were brave enough (my God) to take her salsa dancing (I would need a couple of beers for that also, next time drink em before salsa class!) I'm not sure about the next part but it sounds like she said she would go out again, even tho you left her? Not sure. You left her so that coulda gone either way. (Remember, 2 beers before, not during)
So, you obviously challenge yourself, even tho it sounds like torture for you (your brave) you just need to get your meds right, I know, so easy. I would find some reliable advice re: Provigil and take it when not on a date, or find a different medication. If you're on Nardil, and you have to go too high on Provigil, see if you can find another stim type med., small dose ritalin I find to be perfect (not a mind racer) but you would have to stay low or it would be dangerous.
Good Luck!
~Jade
Posted by tepi on December 17, 2008, at 0:13:37
In reply to Re: I leave a place running » tepi, posted by JadeKelly on December 16, 2008, at 18:47:18
Thank you for your posts
Let me tell you first that I dont feel good , so dont expect a good post of thanks. its gonna be bored I have no energy
Just to clarify , I asked her to be my girl while I was drunk last week. She was the one that suggest to go to that place. I was only with her. I know a little bit of salsa so I said ok
Being there , many men were over her,I just cant talked to her so the smart guys get closed to her
and startted having long conversations and laughing with her .I was there feeling so stupid ,
i was just looking how other men were trying to
have a nice moment
No , she said she cant go with me , because during all these conversations , One man invited her first than me , so she rejected me . I was on alcohol when she told me that ,so I acted so great , I did not get upset or anything . It was like , perfect , you are free to go out with anybody , I can find other girl ( on alcohol of couse)Ok so I took 200mg today . I felt so sleepy, this is rare... I dont feel good , maybe its not the right med for me . I will go on with the trial however.
Dam therapy , I dont believe that thing helps on me , Im gonna have to look help on that tooEy I read all your suggestions , and remind all your names , thank for your care. thank phillipa
I will try to post often while drunk , I even think my post are better drunk.Lest see what else can do this Modafinil provigil
Tep
Posted by JadeKelly on December 17, 2008, at 14:25:00
In reply to Re: I leave a place running, posted by tepi on December 17, 2008, at 0:13:37
> Thank you for your posts
> Let me tell you first that I dont feel good , so dont expect a good post of thanks. its gonna be bored I have no energy
> Just to clarify , I asked her to be my girl while I was drunk last week. She was the one that suggest to go to that place. I was only with her. I know a little bit of salsa so I said ok
> Being there , many men were over her,I just cant talked to her so the smart guys get closed to her
> and startted having long conversations and laughing with her .I was there feeling so stupid ,
> i was just looking how other men were trying to
> have a nice moment
> No , she said she cant go with me , because during all these conversations , One man invited her first than me , so she rejected me . I was on alcohol when she told me that ,so I acted so great , I did not get upset or anything . It was like , perfect , you are free to go out with anybody , I can find other girl ( on alcohol of couse)
>
> Ok so I took 200mg today . I felt so sleepy, this is rare... I dont feel good , maybe its not the right med for me . I will go on with the trial however.
> Dam therapy , I dont believe that thing helps on me , Im gonna have to look help on that too
>
> Ey I read all your suggestions , and remind all your names , thank for your care. thank phillipa
> I will try to post often while drunk , I even think my post are better drunk.
>
> Lest see what else can do this Modafinil provigil
> TepHi Tepi,
Jade again, well it appears my picture is getting clearer. You have a serious problem with alcohol? Not just acouple at a time. Thats not good. Hope you can get that under control so you can learn to go out and get what you want in life. As for the girl, if she picked the place, sounds like she's been there before. Ahh, how to put this nicely, no quality girl is going to accept a date from another man, while she's on a date with you, IMHO. So I doubt any great loss there. Sorry. I hope you're feeling better, and that you will post without drinking because I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd like to get to know the real you, even if it takes a little longer. You aren't here to entertain anyone! it's to get help, right? Besides, what better place to practice conversational skills than here? No pressure!
Hope to hear back from you (sober :^)
~Jade
Posted by paddo on December 17, 2008, at 18:21:14
In reply to Re: I leave a place running, posted by tepi on December 17, 2008, at 0:13:37
Hi Tepi, when i read of your posts, one of several things come to mind. First..
It goes without saying,your desire to have that someone "special" in your life. Tepi you have within you a BIG loving heart sensitive heart a real mans heart. Second that comes to mind. To have strength of character to mail your thoughts in this forum , i imagine for some of us including myself, feel so desperatly alone with christmas rushing towards us ..sharpens alones can make it more of challenge, given your circumstances i reckon your a really gutsy guy to express your passion . Never underestimate the power within. Social Anxiety is a real pain..i am one of many who deal with it on a regular basis. Many many woman are in need of love ..many have been subjected by manipulative so called men ..either through abuse in its many layers. Women unless otherwise, are looking for sensitive souls a soul mate. More power to you Tepi. Be ready Tepi i am sure that others like me will send the POWER to you. Never givin to yourself. A special someone is waiting for you. Tepi as best you can bone alcohol it may be right now for you near impossible observe others who drink, plan not to be like them there is only one Tepi. Tepi feel the power its coming very soon. Best wishes Tepi your much stronger then you presently think. Paddo
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