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Posted by Sky Brite Line on July 10, 2008, at 23:09:32
Im fed, let me just get to the point. This medication, im on a high dose. My doctor has prescribed 140mg (70 X 2), was on a 100mg (50mg X 2), that didnt work Next he wont ever prescibe me adderall. You have not "rush" or "hit", like amphetamine. Its not like your average amphetamine, after it wears off (10 hours). Also for some reason stimulants make me just a wreck, even though they increase percestance.
I had to take Seroquel to not be paranoid, and its really a shame. All my problems and failures. I concentrate too much, and think about "i want out!" too much!
What do you think, should i just take a break from it?
Posted by Phillipa on July 11, 2008, at 0:21:49
In reply to Vyvanse is making me wierd, posted by Sky Brite Line on July 10, 2008, at 23:09:32
All and all are you doing better? See you're on seroquel now. Love Phillipa
Posted by iforgotmypassword on July 11, 2008, at 4:56:47
In reply to Vyvanse is making me wierd, posted by Sky Brite Line on July 10, 2008, at 23:09:32
i'm very suspicious that the idea that it's really a molecularly based sustained release mechanism is a gross mischaracterization. the duration of effect may be *slightly* longer, but it's genuine function is just DELAY response so it does not give the immediate effect psychostimulant abusers usually want (even tho it has same gradual "likability"), and make doctors feel more secure. this is a benefit, if this is the only real upside of the drug, they should be honest about it.
the result i think is a drug that is i would imagine is shorter duration and peakier (and valley-er) than the original spansules, which probably puts more stress on people. it may also push off-patent amphetamines off the market this way (or even facilitate them becoming illegal), replacing them with a money making brand name.
Posted by iforgotmypassword on July 11, 2008, at 5:05:54
In reply to probably the only thing unique about vyvanse, posted by iforgotmypassword on July 11, 2008, at 4:56:47
"peakier" and "crashier" than spansules may be more accurate. either way it probably makes the medication more stressful.
i am worried that the anti-abuse effect of the drug will lead to overdoses from frustration, when the drug doesn't offer the most immediate relief addiction sufferers want after they crash.
Posted by Sky Brite Line on July 11, 2008, at 9:32:33
In reply to Vyvanse is making me wierd, posted by Sky Brite Line on July 10, 2008, at 23:09:32
Vyvanse has no euphoric, like dexedrine and adderall. Its made to last all day.
The only side effect i've had from it is paranoia. There is absolutely no recreation use with it, just take it. It has no recreational properties as straight amphetamine. Been on adderall, and dex, you wake up and your ready to go for the day! not with Vyvanse.........it slllllowly works into the system, of couse it has psychostimulant effects, but not as quick and fast as dexamphetamine. Very slow version.
Im on 140mg (highest dose) there is just a feeling of increased alertness, and motivation. Thats it. I think thats why its so popular right now.
Only thing sometimes it makes me paranoid, i have take Seroquel (which i hate) to stop it.
Sky Line
Posted by Maxime on July 11, 2008, at 15:52:54
In reply to Re: Vyvanse is making me wierd » Sky Brite Line, posted by Phillipa on July 11, 2008, at 0:21:49
> All and all are you doing better? See you're on seroquel now. Love Phillipa
Does it sound like she is doing better????
Maxime
Posted by Sky Brite Line on July 11, 2008, at 23:17:42
In reply to Re: Vyvanse is making me wierd » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on July 11, 2008, at 15:52:54
I dont know, im either getting better or worse....
Let say again Vyvanse is part amphetamine, l-lysine attached to dexamphetamine.....so i read it gives off a very delayed release over the day in the body. You will not get much abuse because all this does, it increases energy, but if too much is taken, its not likable. So thats why its big right now. 140mg finally worked for me, and it takes like a freaking hour to start noticing the full effect of it. Still have side effects from dexamphetamine, paranoia, increased percetance at task, motivation, alerntness, your eyes dialate...
Its a slow released amphetamine, which makes it stupid to abuse.
Who ever thought of this was ingenious....
Sky Line
Posted by Phillipa on July 11, 2008, at 23:32:28
In reply to Re: slow released stimulant, posted by Sky Brite Line on July 11, 2008, at 23:17:42
So does that mean you'd recomend it to another person? Phillipa
Posted by JohnnyBLinux on July 12, 2008, at 2:33:40
In reply to probably the only thing unique about vyvanse, posted by iforgotmypassword on July 11, 2008, at 4:56:47
Yeah, what makes Vyvanse different is that it has a lower abuse potential than dextroamphetamine. I wonder if it has a lower abuse potential than Adderall XR and long-acting methylphenidate medications? I can't imagine why it's taken off the way it has (if it truly has) because it's must be expensive (especially for people w/o health insurance) and so not fully covered by insurance companies. I worked for a health insurance company that offered limited coverage for Vyvanse. It's covered as a 4th tier drug (the highest copay) if and only if you've tried an immediate-release stimulant and Concerta. Anyway, when Vyvanse was introduced, I thought it would be a great option for patients who are known to abuse and/or misuse stimulant medication.
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