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Posted by sdjeff on January 8, 2005, at 1:29:00
I really don't know how to describe this, so here goes...
I have a radio in my head. This is no joke. My mind constantly plays music. I can't stop it. The music seems to stop and start at will. it's quite loud. It feels like it's everywhere. The music is pretty random. Just as an example, it goes from a few minutes of The star wars theme to commercial jingles to a rap tune to something else. It's really annoying and sometimes keeps me up at night.
Posted by alienatari on January 8, 2005, at 1:51:26
In reply to The radio inside my head, posted by sdjeff on January 8, 2005, at 1:29:00
That use to happen to me, well still does a bit. Also i use to get other people conversing in my head, if that makes head. Sometimes 4+ voices. Was quite noisy.
I havent noticed it since ive been treated for psychosis though, I think the antipsychotics stopped it.
Take care and i hope u find some releif from it
Posted by alexandra_k on January 8, 2005, at 3:07:39
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head, posted by alienatari on January 8, 2005, at 1:51:26
I get voices conversing fairly much constantly. Never had music though...
Posted by alienatari on January 8, 2005, at 3:30:41
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head » alienatari, posted by alexandra_k on January 8, 2005, at 3:07:39
> I get voices conversing fairly much constantly. Never had music though...
Do you find it really annoying?
i use to. It use to happen a lot when i went to bed. I couldnt stand it
Posted by alexandra_k on January 8, 2005, at 3:36:55
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head, posted by alienatari on January 8, 2005, at 3:30:41
> Do you find it really annoying?
Um, depends. They used to drive me nutso. Sometimes they argue and get really loud. That is hard to bear. Mostly it is just a background hum that I have learned to tune out.
I used to be told to 'avoid' 'distract' etc etc 'at all costs'. That made them loud and mad. It is only fairly recently that I have been told to try to make friends with them. That works better for me.
(I realise that different strategies may work differently for different people. I don't feel compelled to act on what they say and I don't think they are infallible in what they say. Medication doesn't help me with them).
But yeah, sometimes they drive me nutso :-)
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 8, 2005, at 6:37:45
In reply to The radio inside my head, posted by sdjeff on January 8, 2005, at 1:29:00
> I really don't know how to describe this, so here goes...
>
> I have a radio in my head. This is no joke. My mind constantly plays music. I can't stop it. The music seems to stop and start at will. it's quite loud. It feels like it's everywhere. The music is pretty random. Just as an example, it goes from a few minutes of The star wars theme to commercial jingles to a rap tune to something else. It's really annoying and sometimes keeps me up at night.
>
>I've had music playing in my head, mostly just a part of a song playing over & over. I find that I need to play the song before I can get rid of it.
KK.
Posted by Minnie-Haha on January 8, 2005, at 14:15:27
In reply to The radio inside my head, posted by sdjeff on January 8, 2005, at 1:29:00
> I have a radio in my head. This is no joke. My mind constantly plays music. I can't stop it. The music seems to stop and start at will. it's quite loud. It feels like it's everywhere. The music is pretty random. Just as an example, it goes from a few minutes of The star wars theme to commercial jingles to a rap tune to something else. It's really annoying and sometimes keeps me up at night.
I get parts of songs stuck in my head regularly, and it's at its worst when my anxiety is at its highest. There is usually a lot of physical agitation along with it when it happens, and counting. (Say maybe I'll draw a little square on my thigh while I count: 1-2-3-4, 2-2-3-4, 3-2-3-4... and so on.) My DXs are BP2 and OCD (both mild).
Posted by Iansf on January 8, 2005, at 18:25:21
In reply to The radio inside my head, posted by sdjeff on January 8, 2005, at 1:29:00
> I really don't know how to describe this, so here goes...
>
> I have a radio in my head. This is no joke. My mind constantly plays music. I can't stop it. The music seems to stop and start at will. it's quite loud. It feels like it's everywhere. The music is pretty random. Just as an example, it goes from a few minutes of The star wars theme to commercial jingles to a rap tune to something else. It's really annoying and sometimes keeps me up at night.
>
>
Are you hearing music as if there actually were a radio or stereo system playing, or is it music you hear in your head the way most of us hear thoughts, tunes and other noises? I can "play" a tune in my head, but it's distinctly different from actually hearing a song on the radio. This may be farfetched, but there have been verified cases of people picking up radio or television signals through dental fillings, metal plates or other foreign material placed in their skull. It's a rare occurrence but not unknown.
Posted by sdjeff on January 8, 2005, at 23:31:29
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head » sdjeff, posted by Iansf on January 8, 2005, at 18:25:21
Thanks for your responses. I was honestly wondering if this post would be taken seriously.
It's becoming pretty agitating. A certain word or visual will trigger part of a song and it won't let up. Other times it just happens at random. 80% of the time it's stuff I really don't like. It just loops part of a song over and over. It seems to emanate from both inside and outside my head. I take Zyprexa, it has helped with visual hallucenations and voices, but not with this.
Posted by D minor on January 9, 2005, at 0:07:42
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head, posted by sdjeff on January 8, 2005, at 23:31:29
I seem to have two forms of similar phenomina. When I'm depressed I have these repeating thoughts that just loop over and over. Sometimes they were very unpleasant. Seroquel helped to clear those up.
When I'm hypomanic I feel like I have a radio inside my head, but its more like radio garble. You know, just snatches here and there in static. I think these may qualify as racing thoughts.
What is your diagnosis? How much Zyprexa are you on? What other meds are you taking?
dm
Posted by alexandra_k on January 9, 2005, at 1:03:44
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head, posted by sdjeff on January 8, 2005, at 23:31:29
Have you tried listening to a walkman of music you like when it starts up? You could experiment with volume and may only need a bug in one ear.
Posted by cache-monkey on January 9, 2005, at 7:54:26
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head » alienatari, posted by alexandra_k on January 8, 2005, at 3:36:55
I get the voices thing, too. But only right when I'm about to fall asleep (not dreams, though). It's sort of like walking in crowded street with lots of conversations going on at once. I hear distinct and loud snippets, which actually make no sense, since they're all non-sequitorous. But I somehow don't notice the fact that they make no sense.
I feel like this has only started since I started my current med combo: BuSpar 7.5 mg, Lamictal 25 mg, and Xanax 1-1.25 mg.
Could this be medication-induced? Is it something to be concerned about?
cache-monkey
> > Do you find it really annoying?
>
> Um, depends. They used to drive me nutso. Sometimes they argue and get really loud. That is hard to bear. Mostly it is just a background hum that I have learned to tune out.
>
> I used to be told to 'avoid' 'distract' etc etc 'at all costs'. That made them loud and mad. It is only fairly recently that I have been told to try to make friends with them. That works better for me.
>
> (I realise that different strategies may work differently for different people. I don't feel compelled to act on what they say and I don't think they are infallible in what they say. Medication doesn't help me with them).
>
> But yeah, sometimes they drive me nutso :-)
>
>
>
Posted by alexandra_k on January 9, 2005, at 15:14:17
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head » alexandra_k, posted by cache-monkey on January 9, 2005, at 7:54:26
I don't really know anything about medications but I guess I would be suprised if the ones the Dr was giving you would INDUCE them.
If they are annoying and it is hard to get to sleep then try the walkman thingie.
Posted by sdjeff on January 9, 2005, at 19:26:55
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head, posted by D minor on January 9, 2005, at 0:07:42
> I seem to have two forms of similar phenomina. When I'm depressed I have these repeating thoughts that just loop over and over. Sometimes they were very unpleasant. Seroquel helped to clear those up.
>
> When I'm hypomanic I feel like I have a radio inside my head, but its more like radio garble. You know, just snatches here and there in static. I think these may qualify as racing thoughts.
>
> What is your diagnosis? How much Zyprexa are you on? What other meds are you taking?
>
> dmThanks for your reply dm,
My Diagnosis is Major Depression with psychotic features. I take 15 mg of the Zyprexa and 60 mg of Cymbalta. The funny thing while my depression, voices and other hallucenations are helped by meds, this radio issue is not. I wonder if my issue could be a problem with racing thoughts as well, rather than a hallucenation.
Posted by sdjeff on January 9, 2005, at 19:30:26
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head » sdjeff, posted by alexandra_k on January 9, 2005, at 1:03:44
> Have you tried listening to a walkman of music you like when it starts up? You could experiment with volume and may only need a bug in one ear.
Thanks for your response,
I used to do just that. After I would stop the walkman, it would start all over again, looping parts of songs I just listened to. One thing that does work is TV. If I'm watching an engrossing movie or show, ittends to quiet the music a lot.
Posted by Ritch on January 10, 2005, at 10:10:48
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head » D minor, posted by sdjeff on January 9, 2005, at 19:26:55
> > I seem to have two forms of similar phenomina. When I'm depressed I have these repeating thoughts that just loop over and over. Sometimes they were very unpleasant. Seroquel helped to clear those up.
> >
> > When I'm hypomanic I feel like I have a radio inside my head, but its more like radio garble. You know, just snatches here and there in static. I think these may qualify as racing thoughts.
> >
> > What is your diagnosis? How much Zyprexa are you on? What other meds are you taking?
> >
> > dm
>
> Thanks for your reply dm,
>
> My Diagnosis is Major Depression with psychotic features. I take 15 mg of the Zyprexa and 60 mg of Cymbalta. The funny thing while my depression, voices and other hallucenations are helped by meds, this radio issue is not. I wonder if my issue could be a problem with racing thoughts as well, rather than a hallucenation.Serotonergic AD's (while helping with depression and anxiety) tend to cause a repetitive music thing in my head that's not an OCD thing or even necessarily unpleasant and not a hallucination either, but I think it has something to do with a temporal lobe activation from the AD. Stuff that I've found that dampens that particular set of symptoms down really well are anticonvlsants, esp. depakote, trileptal, or neurontin.
Posted by D minor on January 10, 2005, at 10:42:31
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head » sdjeff, posted by Ritch on January 10, 2005, at 10:10:48
> > Thanks for your reply dm,
> >
> > My Diagnosis is Major Depression with psychotic features. I take 15 mg of the Zyprexa and 60 mg of Cymbalta. The funny thing while my depression, voices and other hallucenations are helped by meds, this radio issue is not. I wonder if my issue could be a problem with racing thoughts as well, rather than a hallucenation.
>
> Serotonergic AD's (while helping with depression and anxiety) tend to cause a repetitive music thing in my head that's not an OCD thing or even necessarily unpleasant and not a hallucination either, but I think it has something to do with a temporal lobe activation from the AD. Stuff that I've found that dampens that particular set of symptoms down really well are anticonvlsants, esp. depakote, trileptal, or neurontin.I was going to say something similar. Depakote put a stop to the hypomanic (racing thoughts) radio head. Also, while I was on Topamax I never had a problem with it. I was on Topamax when my dx was MD with psychotic features (it has since changed to Bipolar w/psychotic features). I guess it can augment ADs effect or something along that line. Forgot to mention that I'm also taking Abilify, which I have found to be the absoulute best AP (only I find the side effects hard to handle).
Best wishes,
dm
Posted by Ritch on January 10, 2005, at 13:38:41
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head, posted by D minor on January 10, 2005, at 10:42:31
> > > Thanks for your reply dm,
> > >
> > > My Diagnosis is Major Depression with psychotic features. I take 15 mg of the Zyprexa and 60 mg of Cymbalta. The funny thing while my depression, voices and other hallucenations are helped by meds, this radio issue is not. I wonder if my issue could be a problem with racing thoughts as well, rather than a hallucenation.
> >
> > Serotonergic AD's (while helping with depression and anxiety) tend to cause a repetitive music thing in my head that's not an OCD thing or even necessarily unpleasant and not a hallucination either, but I think it has something to do with a temporal lobe activation from the AD. Stuff that I've found that dampens that particular set of symptoms down really well are anticonvlsants, esp. depakote, trileptal, or neurontin.
>
> I was going to say something similar. Depakote put a stop to the hypomanic (racing thoughts) radio head. Also, while I was on Topamax I never had a problem with it. I was on Topamax when my dx was MD with psychotic features (it has since changed to Bipolar w/psychotic features). I guess it can augment ADs effect or something along that line. Forgot to mention that I'm also taking Abilify, which I have found to be the absoulute best AP (only I find the side effects hard to handle).
>
> Best wishes,
> dm
>Don't want to go off on too much of a tangent here... but when I was reading the monograph for Abilify it notes that it has a moderate affinity for the serotonin transporter. Also, given the exceptionally long half-life of 75 hrs or so, that stuff should have a whopping accumulation effect. I just wonder if some of the akathisia that is often reported from taking Abilify has perhaps more to do with that mechanism rather than the D2, D3, etc. receptor effects? Just thinking out loud a little...
Posted by D minor on January 10, 2005, at 23:06:26
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head » D minor, posted by Ritch on January 10, 2005, at 13:38:41
A lot of that is lost on me. Where can I learn about that stuff, D2, D3 etc. receptors?
dm
Posted by darkhorse on January 11, 2005, at 4:16:36
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head Ritch, posted by D minor on January 10, 2005, at 23:06:26
The first time I ever took an AD was imipramine.
I had a horrible major depression:early morning wake- up with the worst ever feelings and darkest thoughts,lack of appetite,total lack of motivation to do anything..etc.
The first thing I noticed next day in the morning was this repetitive songs playing in my head...it was very real and strange.
I liked it very much as it distracted me from the other horrible thoughts,and helped break some of the dark misery in my head.
Dark Horse.
Posted by thinkfast on January 11, 2005, at 7:50:22
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head, posted by sdjeff on January 9, 2005, at 19:30:26
Wahoooo! Someone else has it! Lately it's been worse...like others, the only way to get rid of it is to think of something else or listen to the song . When I'm "manic", it comes at random and also scenes from movies too. Sometimes there is a trigger that makes me think of it, but most times it seems it comes from nowhere. Dunno for sure. I supposedly have OCD which makes sense, but a friend with BP has the same prob. We have a lot of similarities though. Maybe everyone does it but we make a big deal of it???
Posted by thinkfast on January 11, 2005, at 7:51:07
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head, posted by thinkfast on January 11, 2005, at 7:50:22
medication doesn't help either....
Posted by Ritch on January 11, 2005, at 9:42:57
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head Ritch, posted by D minor on January 10, 2005, at 23:06:26
> A lot of that is lost on me. Where can I learn about that stuff, D2, D3 etc. receptors?
> dmI've picked up on it from reading posts here and the links to other sites. I've always been interested in pharmacology, but it's not my line of work. Maybe somebody can jump in and post a link to a good site that explains it using reasonable ordinary language...
Posted by Ritch on January 11, 2005, at 9:45:55
In reply to Re: The radio inside my head Ritch, posted by darkhorse on January 11, 2005, at 4:16:36
> The first time I ever took an AD was imipramine.
>
> I had a horrible major depression:early morning wake- up with the worst ever feelings and darkest thoughts,lack of appetite,total lack of motivation to do anything..etc.
>
> The first thing I noticed next day in the morning was this repetitive songs playing in my head...it was very real and strange.
>
> I liked it very much as it distracted me from the other horrible thoughts,and helped break some of the dark misery in my head.
>
> Dark Horse.Interesting. The first AD I ever took was amitriptyline and it did the same thing. It was lighter, more melodic music and it was more "muffled" and "fuzzy"-in the background. SSRI's (esp. Prozac for some reason), get the stuff really going relatively loud.
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