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Posted by margaret carolann on March 13, 2004, at 19:04:43
Does anyone know where on the internet or somewhere else that I can buy amineptine? Preferably for less? martha
Posted by PsychoSage on March 13, 2004, at 23:42:44
In reply to where to buy amineptine, posted by margaret carolann on March 13, 2004, at 19:04:43
> Does anyone know where on the internet or somewhere else that I can buy amineptine? Preferably for less? martha
I have not seen it anywhere. I would love to try it. I've never tried something not prescribed to be though, but if there were something to try with a doctor supervising or not then this is it.
Posted by rod on March 14, 2004, at 5:48:13
In reply to where to buy amineptine, posted by margaret carolann on March 13, 2004, at 19:04:43
> Does anyone know where on the internet or somewhere else that I can buy amineptine? Preferably for less? martha
Well, apart from beeing illegal to ask for information on how to import prescription drugs in the US here, I have found a legal way to get it. There is a local pharmacy in town (Im in the EU) who specialised in importing foreign drugs. They just have to be available in one country in the world, wherever that is. And Amineptine is available in Brasil, but I dont know what their fees are for inporting it, and furthermore, my doctor does not want to prescribe it :(
Whatever, I think he has his reasons...Good luck in finding a similar, legal and hopefully relatively cheap way
Roland
Posted by bipolarspectrum on March 14, 2004, at 7:11:21
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by rod on March 14, 2004, at 5:48:13
Hello,
Amineptine can be ordered online.. Search for it.. I am not allowed to divulge any more information concerning non-FDA approved pharmaceuticals. but its out there if you look!
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 14, 2004, at 10:09:50
In reply to where to buy amineptine, posted by margaret carolann on March 13, 2004, at 19:04:43
> Does anyone know where on the internet or somewhere else that I can buy amineptine?
This has already been mentioned, but just for the record, please don't use this site to exchange information that could be used to import into the US medication that hasn't been approved by the FDA:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#illegal
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Sad Panda on March 14, 2004, at 11:24:49
In reply to where to buy amineptine, posted by margaret carolann on March 13, 2004, at 19:04:43
> Does anyone know where on the internet or somewhere else that I can buy amineptine? Preferably for less? martha
>
>Hi Martha,
I think the reason that you can't get it nearly anywhere is probably because it isn't any good. I have only ever seen reports of it on one website & that website tends to be a bit extremist in it's views.
Cheers,
Panda.
Posted by SLS on March 14, 2004, at 12:39:56
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine » margaret carolann, posted by Sad Panda on March 14, 2004, at 11:24:49
> I think the reason that you can't get it nearly anywhere is probably because it isn't any good.I would love to talk to a French clinician as to what amineptine is really all about. I do know that there are plenty of people for whom amineptine is the only thing that has ever worked. I wish I could get my hands on it.
- Scott
Posted by margaret carolann on March 14, 2004, at 16:01:18
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by rod on March 14, 2004, at 5:48:13
There are two sitess on google. complicated but possible.
Posted by jlbl2l on March 14, 2004, at 16:24:09
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by margaret carolann on March 14, 2004, at 16:01:18
i won't give any sources obviously (one cause its againt policy, and two cause i want it for myself ( ha ha) but to be honest and totally honest with you guys amineptine is very very similar to MDMA at slighter higher dosages used for depression, its like a more benign version of extascy basically and latest about 2 hours and the come down is very depressing, just like E. this is why is was "really" pulled off the market. not because of liver problems or anything like that. trust me.
Posted by margaret carolann on March 14, 2004, at 20:16:34
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by jlbl2l on March 14, 2004, at 16:24:09
jbl, tell me more about this. I had no idea!!!! margaret
Posted by SLS on March 15, 2004, at 7:55:10
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by jlbl2l on March 14, 2004, at 16:24:09
> but to be honest and totally honest with you guys amineptine is very very similar to MDMA at slighter higher dosages used for depression
To the best of my knowledge, amineptine is nothing like MDMA. It does not:1. Promote the release of dopamine or norepinephrine - things that amphetamines do.
2. Promote the release of serotonin (5-HT), which is perhaps the most distinguishing property that separates MDMA and methamphetamine from the other relatively non-toxic psychostimulants.
Amineptine is probably stimulating for some people who take it. This is often a positive attribute when treating depression. Does this property lead to abuse? Probably, but it is not nearly as liable for abuse as amphetamines or benzodiazepines. Anyway, what difference does it make? Lots of really good medications are abused by people who are dedicated to abusing drugs. That is unfortunate. But that alone should not be sufficient reason to deny effective treatment to those who need it. I don't think I should be penalized by the "misbehavior" of others.
I am beginning to think that the major motivation for the withdrawal of amineptine was that it was being abused by athletes as a performance enhancer.
- Scott
Posted by margaret carolann on March 15, 2004, at 8:21:30
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by SLS on March 15, 2004, at 7:55:10
Scott, I appreciate that information. Does one take it once a day, twice a day? Do the effects wear off and you have a down time? What about withdrawal symptoms? I am interested in the antidepression effect more than the sexual, but I have been totally without sexual satisfaction since I started a high dose of effexor 7 years ago, and I would really like some help there, too. My husband takes viagra because he is on prozac..but it does nothing for me. Are we "sexual retirees" at 58 and 65? The effexor helps the depression, but I have no motivation or zest for life. I am, as they say, flat. I accomplish about one-third of what I used to, and I am always tired and sleepy. Any suggestions, anyone? Margaret
Posted by jlbl2l on March 15, 2004, at 19:45:02
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by SLS on March 15, 2004, at 7:55:10
i've done both e or 4/5 amineptine several several times, i have nothting to gain or lose here and i study neurophysopharmaolcogy, whhile i respect the aspects of what your saying, and while they are actually somewhat correct, you didnt fully read my post i guess. i said it was a less powerfull or benign version of e. this is because if doesnt effect sero as much but in fact since everyone should know dopamine is the final common pleasure pathway, no matter what, youll get the same effect it usually goes noep-sero-dopa (conversion). amineptine goes dopa-norep-sero (thats how ALL abusable drugs go for some odd reason) some are dopa-sero-noep, some are norep-dopa purely its very strange (im talking about conversion purely btw, not invidualt receptors types. like ADS. ok? ANd it also differs per dosage and individial for some reason and i dont know why. sometimes, it will effect sero more for amineptine. like dopa-sero. usually not though. thats rare, thats usally people with scizoprenia or something. i am in contact with the guy who has it in brazil dude. trust me. i know chem formula and everything. its a very odd drug but fun drug. its the most social drug ever, more so than klonopin and GHB. E is better though, i havent been able to experien nardil though, but if e is better than nardil, than amninepine is better than nardil. one problem : it only lasts about 3 hours and the comedown is just as bad as extascy.
Posted by jlbl2l on March 15, 2004, at 20:02:42
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by jlbl2l on March 15, 2004, at 19:45:02
follow up to this, im purely talking about the social phobia aspect of this and the PRN (per needed) or abuse potential i suppose, and energy motivation effect. as far as depression, i probably would stay away from it for a few reasons. but maybe consider it. im not sure
1) its very expensive from that 1 source (there is only 1 and its, well, i cant say the source but you can take your educated guesses and its legit btw.
2) its HIGHLY abuseable. anything that acts on dopamine is USUALLY abuseable. this is really why it was pulled off the world market, it worked tooooooo well, cause it was making people so happy like they were on ectasy or something all the time .... or any dopamine drug..... ya know? way to abuseable and addiciting. its also not approved in the USA, but you can import a 3 month supply of any drug for personal use per FDA guidelines keep this in mind unless its a schedule 1 2 or 3.
For depression the dosage is approx 200mg daily split up though 4 ways 50/50/50/50 (use pill cutter if you dont got lots of money. or 150mg daily if your really poor (but it may not work at all). if you really want it to work you gotta seriously spend the cash and split the dose into three increments of 100 100 100 daily at the same time (always take it with something such as gatorate to help uptake (glucose/gatorade) helps uptake the chemical and prevent the dehydration from the norep) and a fourth pill daily means your entering the abusive stage typically.
Posted by jlbl2l on March 15, 2004, at 20:06:37
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by jlbl2l on March 15, 2004, at 20:02:42
sorry forget to answer, as for sexual, any dopamine agonist will increase your sexual drive a lot, in fact amineptine is known SPESCIFICALLY to cause spontaneous orgasms and intense ones at that. it is VERY VERY pro sexual. your mate may not be able to handle you and your sex drive after a few weeks/months on this drug. seriously. careful .... heh.
Posted by margaret carolann on March 15, 2004, at 20:08:43
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by jlbl2l on March 15, 2004, at 20:02:42
Well, I think you have convinced me. I think I am on the wrong track with the amineptine. What about Selegiline or Wellbutrin? M
Posted by jlbl2l on March 15, 2004, at 20:54:28
In reply to Re: where to buy amineptine, posted by margaret carolann on March 15, 2004, at 20:08:43
What about Selegiline ?
I tried that. the tablet form only. ever since nardil i am scared of MAOI;s even at low dose. i really had NO effect whatsoever from Selegiline at 10mg daily for a month Jumex brand. i tried adding the l-phenleynanine into it as well. also, no effect whatsoever. i didnt understand it cause all the studies seemed quite real and clear. i dunno. sorry cant offer much help in that area. for me, the best anti depressant combo ever and always was klonopin augmented with provigil OR SIMPLY caffeine (NOT coffee, but green tea with food (or youll get sick dont do this on empty stomach). not low dose klonopin, between 2-3 MG at least at once or slightly split, say 1.5 + 1.5 ) daily. thats the truth. good luck.
ps. never tried wellbutrin,
Posted by rod on March 20, 2004, at 6:55:41
In reply to where to buy amineptine, posted by margaret carolann on March 13, 2004, at 19:04:43
After doing a lot of searching and writing to Brasilian internet pharmacies, I found out that Amineptine is a controlled substance in Brasil, and its forbidden by law to export the drug by mail (or at all). None of the pharmacies I got to know of, does international shipping at all. And yes, its available and manufactured by Servier Labs in Brasil. Thats, what I found out, but maybe there is still a way to get it legal from there. But I cant see one...
@jlbl2l
Did you really got yours from brasil, directly?Roland
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