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Posted by femlite on November 1, 2003, at 14:44:41
Dr Bob
I know the title of this posts sounds bold and risks misunderstanding. Please forgive me if my jest is over the top.BUT --After reading of the trouble that many users of this site have run into with psychiatrist who are leery of patients who know ANYTHING about psychiatric medications or illnesses, what do you propose?
What is the next phase and shouldn’t we move on to it?
May be you could give us some guidance.
Or perhaps you could have a number of symposiums on "New Forms of Doctor /Patient Interaction" you know get the pdocs up to speed? It really would help.
Or somehow let pdocs across the country know that YOU (through this wonderful site, thank you) are our educator.
That you have created a "NEW BREED" of Psychiatric patient who is sophisticated, educated, plugged in and ready to try the next newly patented answer to our modern woes!
by the way...can you give me a day ;)before you redirect?
The tone of my letter is in jest but the problem is real and Id like to hear some replies.Im personally discouraged with my pdoc options and like some others here am beginning to feel there the only recourse is self-medicating.
Love Ya ;-)
Posted by glenn on November 1, 2003, at 16:31:36
In reply to Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by femlite on November 1, 2003, at 14:44:41
It took me a long time to find him but I managed to get a great one who calls our time together a " patient directed consultation".
However the original point is well made, most docs seems to feel very threatened by someone who knows a decent amount about this area. The only thing I can say in their defence is that I did read a study which suggested that 80+% of patients just want their docs to tell them what to do or give them a prescription, so I guess they get used to being "gods"Glenn
Posted by linkadge on November 1, 2003, at 17:28:39
In reply to Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by femlite on November 1, 2003, at 14:44:41
It's very true, this site has made me want the best for myself, and want to avoid the mistakes
other have made, not to mention share the mistakes that I have.
Linkadge
Posted by stjames on November 1, 2003, at 18:06:37
In reply to Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by femlite on November 1, 2003, at 14:44:41
Only if you take this board to represent all
psyco med users. It does not, it only represents
people who have trouble with their meds. So it would be a misyake to judge all docs and meds with this board.The first med I took worked, I don't have any problems taking meds that I could not cope with and the meds have worked since 1985.
Posted by cybercafe on November 1, 2003, at 19:19:02
In reply to Re: Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by stjames on November 1, 2003, at 18:06:37
i am starting to realize that perhaps the biggest problem i had is that doctors thought i was okay when i was definately not okay and i thought that doctors realized that i was definately not okay .... and just sat there visit after visit and waited for them to address strange depressive and anxious symptoms (which i now realize are bipolar + ADHD)......... now that i've learned the HARD WAY i do what i should have done a long time ago, and before each visit assume the doc can't help me UNLESS i write up a well organized, well summarized, yet descriptive document listing all my current problems, how they effect me, and perhaps possible solutions
a lot of people just don't tell their docs about their problems and expect the docs to knowheck, in my 15 min once/1 or 2 month interview i never had time to address anything
> Only if you take this board to represent all
> psyco med users. It does not, it only represents
> people who have trouble with their meds. So it would be a misyake to judge all docs and meds with this board.
>
> The first med I took worked, I don't have any problems taking meds that I could not cope with and the meds have worked since 1985.
Posted by stjames on November 1, 2003, at 20:16:40
In reply to Re: Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by cybercafe on November 1, 2003, at 19:19:02
i am starting to realize that perhaps the biggest problem i had is that doctors thought i was okay when i was definately not okay and i thought that doctors realized that i was definately not okay
I really like the idea of bringing notes to the session. Now with my med doc, I fax these notes
to him a week before my session. This is very effective for me. The doc starts the session
already talking about solutions for whatever meds issues I outlined in my fax. I find the questions from my doc are more specific if I fax them first
and get to basic stuff out of the way.
Posted by femlite on November 2, 2003, at 0:46:12
In reply to Re: Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by stjames on November 1, 2003, at 18:06:37
You make some very good points but I for on would like to see some actual statistical represention of those truly satisfied (my qualifications;
Recieved sucessful effect from first medication prescribed."I took one been happy evey since",
Then numbers for those who are still trying (one med or multiple) looking and seeking?Maybe even Dr. Bob might have such statistics
My judgements apply only to my own experience.
But when my experience grows in number then there may be something to discuss. Here we are :)
> Only if you take this board to represent all
> psyco med users. It does not, it only represents
> people who have trouble with their meds. So it would be a misyake to judge all docs and meds with this board.
>
> The first med I took worked, I don't have any problems taking meds that I could not cope with and the meds have worked since 1985.
Posted by femlite on November 2, 2003, at 0:51:59
In reply to Re: Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by glenn on November 1, 2003, at 16:31:36
Posted by femlite on November 2, 2003, at 0:55:45
In reply to Re: Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by cybercafe on November 1, 2003, at 19:19:02
It sounds like you have a good doc and system worked out
goodluck
Posted by femlite on November 2, 2003, at 0:58:53
In reply to Re: Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by stjames on November 1, 2003, at 20:16:40
Posted by stjames on November 2, 2003, at 2:38:21
In reply to HANG ON TO HIM !!! :-) (nm) » stjames, posted by femlite on November 2, 2003, at 0:58:53
Actually, I have been through 4 docs in 20 years.
All good to excellent.
Posted by wsj on November 2, 2003, at 10:48:41
In reply to Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by femlite on November 1, 2003, at 14:44:41
i wonder how much flack dr. bob gets from other members of his profession due to this website?
i asked my pdoc if he was familiar with the site > he acted vaguely familiar but showed no interest. to me this is like not being interested in your own profession or continuing education.
Posted by femlite on November 2, 2003, at 20:41:29
In reply to Dr Bob made me a drug seeker, posted by femlite on November 1, 2003, at 14:44:41
> Dr Bob
> I know the title of this posts sounds bold and risks misunderstanding. Please forgive me if my jest is over the top.
>
> BUT --After reading of the trouble that many users of this site have run into with psychiatrist who are leery of patients who know ANYTHING about psychiatric medications or illnesses, what do you propose?
>
> What is the next phase and shouldn’t we move on to it?
>
> May be you could give us some guidance.
>
> Or perhaps you could have a number of symposiums on "New Forms of Doctor /Patient Interaction" you know get the pdocs up to speed? It really would help.
>
> Or somehow let pdocs across the country know that YOU (through this wonderful site, thank you) are our educator.
>
> That you have created a "NEW BREED" of Psychiatric patient who is sophisticated, educated, plugged in and ready to try the next newly patented answer to our modern woes!
>
> by the way...can you give me a day ;)before you redirect?
>
>
> The tone of my letter is in jest but the problem is real and Id like to hear some replies.
>
> Im personally discouraged with my pdoc options and like some others here am beginning to feel there the only recourse is self-medicating.
> Love Ya ;-)
>
>This one really is for you. If you would prefer I can post it to the admin page.
Posted by cybercafe on November 3, 2003, at 16:16:17
In reply to dr.bob website » femlite, posted by wsj on November 2, 2003, at 10:48:41
> i wonder how much flack dr. bob gets from other members of his profession due to this website?
> i asked my pdoc if he was familiar with the site > he acted vaguely familiar but showed no interest. to me this is like not being interested in your own profession or continuing education.i have found most pdocs too busy to be interested in continuing education......... i thought that was the norm?
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