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Posted by d miller on July 24, 2002, at 13:21:19
Thanks for your input, I also feel the same way about risperdal. So I'm not going to take it.
I think my pdoc has given up on me because she suggested that I see another pdoc for another opinion. She says that maybe they will see something that she doesn't see. I never really did like or feel very comfortable with her anyways.
I do take xanax but have such a hard time taking it in the day as it puts me to sleep. Even 1/4 of .5mg makes me so sleepy. At night I'll take the whole .5mg and sleep pretty well.
Clonazpam makes me feel the same way. Has anyone felt this way?
The other question is if a person has not felt much relieve on 130mg of effexor will upping it make a difference? Or should'nt there be some relief already. I have been on the effexor sense March and like I said I have slowly had to up it because of med sentivity. I would say that it has worked about 20 to 30%.
I had asked my pdoc about changing to another AD. I have in the past been on Zoloft which worked a little, Wellbutrin and lithumin, and then effexor which worked the best for 4 years. In January I tried Celexa and in March was put back on effexor. She said since I have tried so many of the ssri and they did not work the other will not work for me eithor. This upset me so much I started crying in her office because she made me feel so hopeless.
I suffer from severe anxiety and depression with obsessional thinking.
Whats your opinion on all that? D. Miller
Posted by oracle on July 24, 2002, at 16:18:45
In reply to Pdoc who doesn't care, posted by d miller on July 24, 2002, at 13:21:19
& that does not mean they do not care
Posted by Mireille on July 24, 2002, at 18:39:30
In reply to Pdoc who doesn't care, posted by d miller on July 24, 2002, at 13:21:19
> Thanks for your input, I also feel the same way about risperdal. So I'm not going to take it.
>
> I think my pdoc has given up on me because she suggested that I see another pdoc for another opinion. She says that maybe they will see something that she doesn't see. I never really did like or feel very comfortable with her anyways.
>
> I do take xanax but have such a hard time taking it in the day as it puts me to sleep. Even 1/4 of .5mg makes me so sleepy. At night I'll take the whole .5mg and sleep pretty well.
>
> Clonazpam makes me feel the same way. Has anyone felt this way?
>
> The other question is if a person has not felt much relieve on 130mg of effexor will upping it make a difference? Or should'nt there be some relief already. I have been on the effexor sense March and like I said I have slowly had to up it because of med sentivity. I would say that it has worked about 20 to 30%.
>
> I had asked my pdoc about changing to another AD. I have in the past been on Zoloft which worked a little, Wellbutrin and lithumin, and then effexor which worked the best for 4 years. In January I tried Celexa and in March was put back on effexor. She said since I have tried so many of the ssri and they did not work the other will not work for me eithor. This upset me so much I started crying in her office because she made me feel so hopeless.
>
> I suffer from severe anxiety and depression with obsessional thinking.
>
> Whats your opinion on all that? D. MillerYou know, d, I personally had a similar experience with a pdoc who made me feel weird, and it was very obvious she was uncomfortable around me too. She was nervous and fidgety when she talked to me and seemed to want to just prescribe something and get me out of the office. I would say you should definitely find someone else. We have to shop for our doctors, it's just true! There are too many bad apples out there (excluding Dr. Bob, of course! :) and we have to protect ourselves. No one else will do it.
From what you said about the dosage - I wouldn't do anything differently from what you're doing until you find a good pdoc. Seriously. You do NOT want to play with any of those meds - especially Effexor from my experience - without talking to someone who knows. We all know so little, even doctors - but you will find someone who will help you - have faith! We are here for you in the meantime...just don't give up - you deserve a good doctor!!!!
Mireille
Posted by judy1 on July 24, 2002, at 22:17:01
In reply to Pdoc who doesn't care, posted by d miller on July 24, 2002, at 13:21:19
I just have to agree with Mirielle (sp?). I went through over a dozen pdocs before I found one who I trusted and had confidence in. I think you need the same before you start messing with meds- the support is critical. Take care, judy
Posted by d.miller on July 25, 2002, at 15:47:55
In reply to Re: Pdoc who doesn't care » d miller, posted by judy1 on July 24, 2002, at 22:17:01
Thank you, I did make an appointment with a new pdoc. A friend of mine uses him and loves him, so I'm going to take that a a good sign for now. I'm not going to take the risperdal. The old pdoc wanted me to take it for the obsessive thinking about how anxious I am. Who would not think about how their body feels when that horrible anxiety and depression is engulfing you.
What is you opinion of a regular psychiartist compared to a psychopharmacologist? Do you think psychopharmacologists are more knowledgable with medicine?
d.miller
Posted by judy1 on July 25, 2002, at 17:52:15
In reply to Re: psychiartists or psychopharmacologist, posted by d.miller on July 25, 2002, at 15:47:55
Supposedly they all get the same training, but in reality pdocs who call themselves psychopharmacologists tend to be more current with meds (and are usually associated with Universities). If this doc comes highly recommended then you're very fortunate and probably won't be wasting your time. Just don't forget about therapy too :-)- take care, judy
Posted by cybercafe on July 26, 2002, at 1:31:19
In reply to Re: psychiartists or psychopharmacologist » d.miller, posted by judy1 on July 25, 2002, at 17:52:15
> Supposedly they all get the same training, but in reality pdocs who call themselves psychopharmacologists tend to be more current with meds (and are usually associated with Universities). If this doc comes highly
hmmm.. don't psychopharmacologists go through pharmacy college rather than medical college?
Posted by judy1 on July 26, 2002, at 11:15:44
In reply to Re: psychiartists or psychopharmacologist, posted by cybercafe on July 26, 2002, at 1:31:19
I would think that's true- I can only answer that my consult with a psychopharmacologist- he was an MD and board certified in Psychiatry and Neurology (but of course there could have been a pharmacy degree I missed). I wonder if there are different standards in different states or countries for that matter. Take care, judy
Posted by judy1 on July 26, 2002, at 11:18:46
In reply to That's a good question » cybercafe, posted by judy1 on July 26, 2002, at 11:15:44
who had an MD/PhD. OK, I'll stop now...:-)- judy
Posted by cybercafe on July 26, 2002, at 20:52:35
In reply to That's a good question » cybercafe, posted by judy1 on July 26, 2002, at 11:15:44
> I would think that's true- I can only answer that my consult with a psychopharmacologist- he was an MD and board certified in Psychiatry and Neurology (but of course there could have been a pharmacy degree I missed). I wonder if there are different standards in different states or countries for that matter. Take care, judy
i don't think (in canada or UK) pharmacists can perscribe medication....
i'd be really interested in they could though --
it would make me feel somewhat more hopeful about the world if i could get a degree in pharmacy and help some fellow depression sufferers
Posted by LostBoyinNC1 on July 27, 2002, at 20:58:18
In reply to Re: psychiartists or psychopharmacologist, posted by d.miller on July 25, 2002, at 15:47:55
> Thank you, I did make an appointment with a new pdoc. A friend of mine uses him and loves him, so I'm going to take that a a good sign for now. I'm not going to take the risperdal. The old pdoc wanted me to take it for the obsessive thinking about how anxious I am. Who would not think about how their body feels when that horrible anxiety and depression is engulfing you.
>
> What is you opinion of a regular psychiartist compared to a psychopharmacologist? Do you think psychopharmacologists are more knowledgable with medicine?
>
> d.miller
Neither is best. The best is a general psychiatrist who also has some solid Neurology training in addition to psychiatry. A Psychiatrist who also understands Neurology is the best Pdoc. Psychopharmacologists are just psychiatrists who are in real tight with the pharmaceutical companies and are nothing special. Ive found psychopharmacologists to be no better than your general psychiatrist. All psychiatrists should be required to complete additional training in Neurology.the ones to avoid are the older, know it all Pdocs who were trained in the old days when Freud was still in vogue.
Posted by rjk on July 28, 2002, at 12:25:17
In reply to Re: psychiartists or psychopharmacologist, posted by d.miller on July 25, 2002, at 15:47:55
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