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Posted by Dinah on November 3, 2004, at 21:14:18
Of course, I also wonder how I came to be from my family.
Sigh.
Posted by gardenergirl on November 3, 2004, at 21:30:42
In reply to Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board, posted by Dinah on November 3, 2004, at 21:14:18
Dinah,
My sister, the youngest, was always convinced that once she went to bed, the rest of us reverted to our alien forms. :DShe was quite young, but I think she might understand what you are saying....
Warmly,
gg
Posted by alesta on November 3, 2004, at 22:53:00
In reply to Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board, posted by Dinah on November 3, 2004, at 21:14:18
> Of course, I also wonder how I came to be from my family.
>
> Sigh.hi dinah :)
is it the political discussions, sweetie? i'm sorry if i/we hurt you. truly. hope you still like us..i don't want you to be hurt, hon. i'll try to stop posting about politics (it's just *really* hard not to chime in).take care, luv,
amy
Posted by jlynne on November 3, 2004, at 22:54:32
In reply to Re: Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board » Dinah, posted by gardenergirl on November 3, 2004, at 21:30:42
Dinah, I don't know how you came to this board, either . . . but I know a lot of people who are glad you did!! (moi included)
(((dinah)))
. . . jlynne
Posted by JenStar on November 3, 2004, at 23:09:53
In reply to Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board, posted by Dinah on November 3, 2004, at 21:14:18
do you wonder about the board b/c it's so much a part of you & your life? or is it something else?
Hope you're doing well tonite.
take care,
JenStar
Posted by Gabbix2 on November 3, 2004, at 23:40:29
In reply to Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board, posted by Dinah on November 3, 2004, at 21:14:18
You *know* it's true Dinah, here I love you like no otha'
Even though it's quite likely
you voted for G. Dubyá ;0
Posted by 64bowtie on November 4, 2004, at 0:47:08
In reply to Re: Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board » Dinah, posted by alesta on November 3, 2004, at 22:53:00
> Of course, I also wonder how I came to be from my family.
> Sigh.
<<< Many times I've had those feelings... I kept doin' it till I realized that I was wasting my time assuming that things were supposed to be what they obviously never were. I asked myself, "Who says its supposed to be different than exactly what it is?"
I can choose to be in denial or not! If it is, it is. ...and besides feelings are fleeting; they seem to come and go without much lasting effect, and I was only feeling like it should be better than it was. What if my feeling was based on some faulty opinion or false belief? What confidence level do I assign to the feeling, only to discover that the feeling was inappropriate to begin with?
More Chaos!!!
Rod
Posted by saw on November 4, 2004, at 1:19:17
In reply to Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board, posted by Dinah on November 3, 2004, at 21:14:18
I would love to see more of you on this board.
Sabrina
Posted by KaraS on November 4, 2004, at 2:38:27
In reply to Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board, posted by Dinah on November 3, 2004, at 21:14:18
> Of course, I also wonder how I came to be from my family.
>
> Sigh.
I'm sorry too if I offended you. I feel so strongly about this election and I felt like I was going to explode earlier if I didn't get that all out and off of my chest.Kara
Posted by fayeroe on November 4, 2004, at 9:21:17
In reply to Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board, posted by Dinah on November 3, 2004, at 21:14:18
Dinah, my daughters swear that I'm adopted. I come from a family of racists, bigots, tunnel-vision, etc. You get the picture. I know the feeling but you do fit on this board!!! Pat
Posted by Dinah on November 4, 2004, at 9:39:50
In reply to Re: Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board » Dinah, posted by fayeroe on November 4, 2004, at 9:21:17
I dunno. We extremely passionate moderates feel out of place a lot. I feel out of place where I live (and in my family of origin) because I'm considered a raving liberal. I feel out of place here because by Babble standards I'm a raving conservative. Yet I'm pretty passionate about moderation. Fortunately I married another passionate moderate, and we together embrace moderate candidates and positions.
We just have to hide out at election time.
Posted by gardenergirl on November 4, 2004, at 11:24:57
In reply to Re: Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board » Dinah, posted by gardenergirl on November 3, 2004, at 21:30:42
Um, Dinah...didn't mean to suggest that you are an alien or that you have odd thoughts...;-)
gg
Posted by KaraS on November 4, 2004, at 16:51:25
In reply to Re: Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board » fayeroe, posted by Dinah on November 4, 2004, at 9:39:50
> I dunno. We extremely passionate moderates feel out of place a lot. I feel out of place where I live (and in my family of origin) because I'm considered a raving liberal. I feel out of place here because by Babble standards I'm a raving conservative. Yet I'm pretty passionate about moderation. Fortunately I married another passionate moderate, and we together embrace moderate candidates and positions.
>
> We just have to hide out at election time.
I always assumed that moderates would have an easier time of it - that they would get along with both sides better - but I guess you're experience has been quite the opposite.K
Posted by 64bowtie on November 6, 2004, at 0:34:20
In reply to Re: Sometimes I wonder how I came to be on this board » fayeroe, posted by Dinah on November 4, 2004, at 9:39:50
(((Dinah))),
> We just have to hide out at election time.
<<< ...not from me. We can all huddle together. We can wait for others to fire their "pit crew", and vote their conscience, not what someone else thinks...
Rod
Posted by Dinah on November 6, 2004, at 8:56:02
In reply to The rest of us moderates will be here with ya' » Dinah, posted by 64bowtie on November 6, 2004, at 0:34:20
I think I'd best keep hidden. It's quite a conundrum for someone who values tolerance and respect for the opinions of others to be having trouble being tolerant in the face of the lack thereof. You know, you just feel like yelling to everyone in the entire world (it seems) "D*MN IT!!! BE TOLERANT AND ACCEPTING OF OTHERS!!!" which wouldn't be very tolerant or accepting of others. So I'm trying to understand the reasons people may not share my values of tolerance, acceptance of others, and trying to understand why others feel the way they do, and wrestling every minute to maintain those very values in this particular situation. (Which, incidentally means people on both sides of the political spectrum. Although I suspect there are many who feel as I do. They're just all silent busy wrestling the same conundrum.)
I haven't won the fight yet, so I need to keep my rage at the rage contained until I have it wrestled to the ground. But I feel it, make no mistake. I feel utter rage at the rage.
Or as my husband always says I say (in your best flat and totally calm voice - I can't recall the movie/TV reference):
"I am enraged."
Posted by Dinah on November 6, 2004, at 9:01:52
In reply to Re: The rest of us moderates will be here with ya' » 64bowtie, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2004, at 8:56:02
I'm not talking, of course, about anyone in particular on Babble. Just the tone of the country, here in conservative territory (as epitomized by my mother who thought Clinton was the devil incarnate) as well as in more liberal climes.
Dr. Bob, I apologize if I strayed outside the civility guidelines in any way. I have been trying very very hard to stay within them.
My post was an expression of my own difficulties applying my own values personally and was not meant as an indictment of anyone else. Indeed, my entire point was that I'm working hard at understanding everyone's point of view while wrestling with my own immediate impulses.
Posted by Jai Narayan on November 6, 2004, at 9:36:40
In reply to Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2004, at 9:01:52
Dinah, very well said.
Sometimes my feelings and thoughts come bleeding through. Okay bursting out.
like a dam breaking?
When the internal pain is too great...
I have trouble.
Fear can be a huge wall...
not letting anyone in or out.
I have fallen into fear.
I have heard that love can be liberating.
Pour love into fear....endless amounts of love.
Jai
Posted by AuntieMel on November 8, 2004, at 10:24:52
In reply to Re: The rest of us moderates will be here with ya' » 64bowtie, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2004, at 8:56:02
I always tell people I am a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. The person that gets my vote is the one with the nearest fit.
The polarization bothers me so much. Besides making it much more difficult to find anything like a fit, it reduces the chance of anyone in the middle being heard enough to make a run. You can't get a 527 for the "common sense" party.
All of which is quite upsetting to me - a product of the "peace and love" era. My motto has always been this line from Hair:
"Be whatever you are, do whatever you want to do. Just as long as you don't hurt anyone."
Posted by AuntieMel on November 8, 2004, at 10:43:00
In reply to Re: The rest of us moderates will be here with ya' » 64bowtie, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2004, at 8:56:02
I've thought of moving to Poland. They have the "Beer Drinkers" party. No joke.
Posted by jujube on November 8, 2004, at 17:52:51
In reply to Re: One more thing » Dinah, posted by AuntieMel on November 8, 2004, at 10:43:00
Don't laugh, but here in Canada, we have the Marijuana Party.
> I've thought of moving to Poland. They have the "Beer Drinkers" party. No joke.
Posted by Toph on November 8, 2004, at 18:02:57
In reply to Re: One more thing » AuntieMel, posted by jujube on November 8, 2004, at 17:52:51
> Don't laugh, but here in Canada, we have the Marijuana Party.
>I'd bet they'd be a political force, Mel, but in the voting booth there's just too many choices! LOL
Posted by AuntieMel on November 9, 2004, at 10:24:53
In reply to Re: One more thing, posted by Toph on November 8, 2004, at 18:02:57
No sweat. Chomp down a few oreos, and relaaaxxxxx, and the TrueChoice will unfold for you.
Posted by Toph on November 9, 2004, at 10:27:27
In reply to Re: One more thing » Toph, posted by AuntieMel on November 9, 2004, at 10:24:53
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