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Posted by yesac on June 25, 2003, at 14:22:28
In reply to Re: So who would you like? » mair, posted by yesac on June 25, 2003, at 14:21:27
Posted by yesac on June 25, 2003, at 14:45:17
In reply to Re: PSB Getting to know you quiz, posted by yesac on June 24, 2003, at 15:43:29
I thought of an alternative question I'd like answered:
Why is life so unfair?
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 25, 2003, at 18:09:10
In reply to Yay! I did it! (nm), posted by yesac on June 25, 2003, at 14:22:28
Posted by noa on June 25, 2003, at 21:05:37
In reply to Re: My first answer was Boo Radley... » noa, posted by Sabina on June 24, 2003, at 23:26:19
Well, compared to Ignatius, I suspect Boo would be a better listener. He might not understand much of the language, but would probably tune into the voice cues. Ignatius O'Reilly, on the other hand, would probably have full control of the semantics, but totally miss the non-verbal cues.
Posted by lil' jimi on June 25, 2003, at 22:00:33
In reply to PSB Getting to know you quiz, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 24, 2003, at 9:53:19
a quiz? ... ... okey dokey!
> 1. Which term do you relate to more
>
> a)Psycho
>
> b)Babble
>b) i do way tmi
> 2. What percentage of your life have you been in therapy?
>
... hope i'm not disqualified: 0% = no therapy> 3. Have you ever lied about what you saw in an inkblot?
>
... haven't seen inkblots to lie to ... yet
..."... you look like some ink to me, darl-ink!..."...>
> 4.Which best describes your relationship with your medication?
>
> a) It's grim but I'm not a quitter.
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> b)This is the one I've waited for True Love
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> c)Not currently in a relationship
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> d)We're still together but I keep longing for something new and I'm looking around
>
> e)othere) hey, lexapro is lexapro ... and if it don't behave ... .... i'll shake their bottle!
>
> 5. What fictional character would you like to have as therapist/counselor ?
>
fictional? ... hmmmm
... ... Sherlock Holmes?
... ... ... Horatio Hornblower ?
... ... ... ... Sponge Bob?
... ... ... ... ... brio d chimp?
>
> 6.Describe a moment in your life when you were happy. (May substitute felt slightly less grim ;)
>may i offer 2?
... our wedding
... ... the birth of our son>
> 7. What's your favorite comfort food?
>
.. ... .. hope i don't get disqualified again!
... i don't have one
... ... well, on a hot day, i like 1 and 1/2 mexican limes (the small ones) squeezed over a tall tumbler of ice and then i pour a cold can of dr. pepper over that ... with a straw!
... does that count?>
> 8. Describe your first car..... .... a ~1970(something) honda 600 sedan ... two cylinders, 600cc, sohc, rack and pinion steering, front dics brakes, standard-on-the-dash, about 1300 lbs, tank held 5 gallons. ... ... drove from texaas to california one summer ....
> 9. What question would you like answered?
in neuroscience, how to explain conscousness arising from the brain ... they call this "hard problem" ... ... it's hard if one doesn't resort to dualism or "bare foot" materialism ...
OR
a proof for Reimann's Hypothesis ... ...
>
> 10. You wake up and realize your depression/anxiety,etc. seems to have disappeared. Later that day you win 10 million dollars in the lottery. What do you do with it?
>... ... besides indulging my family and my self?
... oh, establish a foundation to support research in quantum computation / quantum computer science ... ... then go to the lake ...OR maybe a record label?
so did i pass?
Posted by Sabina on June 25, 2003, at 22:07:33
In reply to Re: My first answer was Boo Radley... » Sabina, posted by noa on June 25, 2003, at 21:05:37
Posted by Brio D Chimp on June 25, 2003, at 22:22:27
In reply to Re: PSB Getting to know you quiz, posted by lil' jimi on June 25, 2003, at 22:00:33
sorry I'm booked solid til mid-December :)
> > > 5. What fictional character would you like to have as therapist/counselor ?
> >
> fictional? ... hmmmm
> ... ... Sherlock Holmes?
> ... ... ... Horatio Hornblower ?
> ... ... ... ... Sponge Bob?
> ... ... ... ... ... brio d chimp?
> >
>
Posted by bookgurl99 on June 26, 2003, at 0:02:12
In reply to PSB Getting to know you quiz, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 24, 2003, at 9:53:19
> This is just for fun. Omit anything you don't want to answer. Or write your own :)
>
> 1. Which term do you relate to more
>
> a)PsychoPSYCHO!!!
>
> b)Babble
>
> 2. What percentage of your life have you been in therapy?hmm. . . 14% FOURTEEN PERCENT!!AAUGGH!
>
>>
> 4.Which best describes your relationship with your medication?
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> c)Not currently in a relationship
>
>
> 5. What fictional character would you like to have as therapist/counselor ?
>
Are you saying that she's a real person with a real life when I leave the office?>
> 6.Describe a moment in your life when you were happy. (May substitute felt slightly less grim ;)Tonight when I held my gf in bed and she smiled at me with her own genuine happiness.
> 7. What's your favorite comfort food?Haagen-Dazs
>
> 8. Describe your first car.1982 Dodge K-Car (In 1995.)
>
> 9. What question would you like answered?What are the long-term side effects of these meds?
> 10. You wake up and realize your depression/anxiety,etc. seems to have disappeared. Later that day you win 10 million dollars in the lottery. What do you do with it?
AAAUGH!
Posted by Dinah on June 26, 2003, at 3:16:39
In reply to Re: PSB Getting to know you quiz, posted by bookgurl99 on June 26, 2003, at 0:02:12
> > 5. What fictional character would you like to have as therapist/counselor ?
> >
> Are you saying that she's a real person with a real life when I leave the office?
>
> >ROFL
Posted by Emme on June 26, 2003, at 6:20:22
In reply to PSB Getting to know you quiz, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 24, 2003, at 9:53:19
Okay, here goes.> This is just for fun. Omit anything you don't want to answer. Or write your own :)
>
> 1. Which term do you relate to more
>
> a)Psycho> 2. What percentage of your life have you been in therapy?
16%. Scary.
> 3. Have you ever lied about what you saw in an inkblot?I've never seen an inkblot except in college textbooks. But if I ever got shown one for real, it would be fun to make up something wacky.
> 4.Which best describes your relationship with your medication?
d)We're still together but I keep longing for something new and I'm looking around> 5. What fictional character would you like to have as therapist/counselor ?
I have to agree with the person who said Jessie's therapist on Once and Again.
> 6.Describe a moment in your life when you were happy. (May substitute felt slightly less grim ;)I've been slightly less grim during cabin/hiking trips in the woods with friends.
> 7. What's your favorite comfort food?
CHOCOLATE, CHOCOLATE AND MORE CHOCOLATE. DARK AND BITTER AND EXPENSIVE.
> 8. Describe your first car.
1979 Toyota Corona hatchback. Great car. It saw me through field work in grad school. The poor thing got ranscacked by [an animal] when I left a window open one night in a campground.
> 9. What question would you like answered?
Sounds cliched, but "why are we here - what is the meaning of life (the universe, and everything)?."
> 10. You wake up and realize your depression/anxiety,etc. seems to have disappeared. Later that day you win 10 million dollars in the lottery. What do you do with it?
Get a really snazzy haircut with a top stylist. But that still leaves a lot. I'd take a trip someplace exotic. Then I'd do the usual. I'd help any family members or friends who need money, give some to a few charities, invest the rest and know that I could take any job I wanted even if the salary was a pittance.
Posted by Dinah on June 26, 2003, at 11:27:30
In reply to another question, posted by yesac on June 25, 2003, at 14:45:17
> I thought of an alternative question I'd like answered:
>
> Why is life so unfair?I don't know. I know I've been given so many wonderful things in my life that I just don't deserve. While others haven't. It doesn't seem fair at all.
Posted by judy1 on June 26, 2003, at 12:50:06
In reply to PSB Getting to know you quiz, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 24, 2003, at 9:53:19
What fun!
Which term do you relate to morea)Psycho (no explanations needed)
2. What percentage of your life have you been in therapy?
hmm, maybe 10%3. Have you ever lied about what you saw in an inkblot?
we've never met
4.Which best describes your relationship with your medication?
e)other- I tend to concoct my own potions :-)5. What fictional character would you like to have as therapist/counselor ?
Lucy, from Peanuts- what is she 5 cents an hour?
6.Describe a moment in your life when you were happy. (May substitute felt slightly less grim ;)
OMG, technically they were 'manic moments', and far surpassed happy.
7. What's your favorite comfort food?
Kona coffee with fudge ripple ice cream8. Describe your first car.
a cherry red Mustang that was repoed in 6 months for lack of payment
9. What question would you like answered?
How can one stay in a hypomanic state inderfinitely
10. You wake up and realize your depression/anxiety,etc. seems to have disappeared. Later that day you win 10 million dollars in the lottery. What do you do with it?well, the 10% charity thing first, then buy a house in Hawaii for 8.9 million and blow the remaining $100,000 shopping. There should be somehing about taxes, but I try not to think about negatives.
Posted by lil' jimi on June 26, 2003, at 12:58:22
In reply to Re: another question » yesac, posted by Dinah on June 26, 2003, at 11:27:30
hi Dinah,
yesac wrote us:
> > I thought of an alternative question I'd like answered:
> >
> > Why is life so unfair?
>and you replied:
> I don't know. I know I've been given so many wonderful things in my life that I just don't deserve. While others haven't. It doesn't seem fair at all.
>
>and this is me:
last night i ALmost replied to answer this question from yesac BEFORE i realized he(she?) meant it as one of the answers to the Brio's getting to know you survey: "What question would you like answered?"... which explained to me why he posted it ... and that he wasn't actually requesting our answers ... ... ... so much anyway ...
... ... but i do like your answer(s) to yesac's answer's question (?)
.. ... .. btw, if i haven't mentioned this before?
... ... you are a beautiful person ... ... ... it shows in the compassion of your posts.thanks,
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on June 26, 2003, at 13:06:27
In reply to The important thing is do YOU think you passed? » lil' jimi, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 25, 2003, at 22:22:27
hellooooo, mr. Brio!
> sorry I'm booked solid til mid-December :)
>
>
> > > > 5. What fictional character would you like to have as therapist/counselor ?
> > >
> > fictional? ... hmmmm
> > ... ... Sherlock Holmes?
> > ... ... ... Horatio Hornblower ?
> > ... ... ... ... Sponge Bob?
> > ... ... ... ... ... brio d chimp?
> > >
> >mid-December would be fine .... Sherlock should be good till then.... or Sponge Bob
~ jim
Posted by yesac on June 26, 2003, at 13:17:17
In reply to re: yesac's another question » Dinah, posted by lil' jimi on June 26, 2003, at 12:58:22
> and this is me:
> last night i ALmost replied to answer this question from yesac BEFORE i realized he(she?) meant it as one of the answers to the Brio's getting to know you survey: "What question would you like answered?"
>
> ... which explained to me why he posted it ... and that he wasn't actually requesting our answers ... ... ... so much anyway ...
>
Oh, you can totally answer - I wasn't necessarily requesting answers, but I always like ideas for contemplation.And... I am a girl, by the way :)
Posted by yesac on June 26, 2003, at 13:27:58
In reply to Re: PSB Getting to know you quiz, posted by Snoozy on June 25, 2003, at 0:58:42
I think I should say more about my answers...
> > 2. What percentage of your life have you been in therapy?Well, I think I said 17%, but Shar said something about it should be in years, percent is relative to your age. Well, since I am 24, 17% is about 3.5 years I guess.
> > 3. Have you ever lied about what you saw in an inkblot?I said no, but I've never had an "official" test... I did and emode.com quiz though, and I may have lied because they didn't look like anything to me.
> 8. Describe your first car.Depends if you're talking about if I owned the car or not. The one I gave was actually owned by my father. The first I have owned myself (which is my car right now, and I don't own it yet!) is a 95 plum-colored Cavalier. It suits me well enough.
Posted by yesac on June 26, 2003, at 13:32:37
In reply to Re: another question » yesac, posted by Dinah on June 26, 2003, at 11:27:30
> > Why is life so unfair?
>
> I don't know. I know I've been given so many wonderful things in my life that I just don't deserve. While others haven't. It doesn't seem fair at all.Yeah... I try to think about that, how lucky I am because I have so much that others don't have. But also, there is just so much misery that I have, so much pain, and other misfortunes. I once had a therapist who said that when you don't have to worry about the basic needs of life (food, shelter...) then these more complex problems develop since you aren't so preoccupied with the day-to-day survival - although, if you think about it, yes we really are in a different way!
Posted by Dinah on June 26, 2003, at 14:33:39
In reply to re: yesac's another question » Dinah, posted by lil' jimi on June 26, 2003, at 12:58:22
But I really liked the question. It tied in with what I've been thinking a lot about lately - grace. But that's a topic for the Faith Board.
Posted by lil' jimi on June 26, 2003, at 16:05:31
In reply to re: yesac's another question » lil' jimi, posted by yesac on June 26, 2003, at 13:17:17
hi yesac!
from before:
> > and this is me:
> > last night i ALmost replied to answer this question from yesac BEFORE i realized he(she?) meant it as one of the answers to the Brio's getting to know you survey: "What question would you like answered?"
> >
> > ... which explained to me why he posted it ... and that he wasn't actually requesting our answers ... ... ... so much anyway ...
> >and yesac responds:
> Oh, you can totally answer - I wasn't necessarily requesting answers, but I always like ideas for contemplation.
>
> And... I am a girl, by the way :)... .. ... so i'm at a loss here ... ... i appreciate knowing you're a girl ... ... i don't know how to ... deal with how i didn't know ... ... because i don't need an excuse or anything since i haven't read you enough, which goes without saying ... ... and everything i feel about this new information to me is .. .... obvious and doesn't need saying ... ... (he looks at the floor and shuffles his feet) <sigh.> ... ... well, i'm glad you're a girl ... ... i like girls. .... thanks for letting me know .... oh! ... i'm a guy.
anyway: "Why is life unfair?" ... okay. ....
<ahem> ... "unfair" is so intrinsic to life that it stands to be asked in reply "Would we recognize it if life was fair?" ....
.... and then perahps, "Would it be interesting?"OR
perhaps its unfairness provides the challenge that makes life sporting .... .... say life was analogous to tennis ... ... the unfairness is the net ... ...OR
life is unfair in order to provide the dramatic tension to support meaningful narrative structure(s) ... ... ....happy contemplation, kind Ms yesac!
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on June 26, 2003, at 16:52:37
In reply to re: Chuckle. Thanks. :) » lil' jimi, posted by Dinah on June 26, 2003, at 14:33:39
hi dinah,
> But I really liked the question. It tied in with what I've been thinking a lot about lately - grace. But that's a topic for the Faith Board.
i liked it too ... and i have replied to it at Ms yesac invite ...so you were cool anyway ...
... and since my reply, i have come up with a faith-based reply as well ... ....
.... and we can post those here ... if we don't expect to get faith support .... .... can't we?you are welcomed!
chuckle!
~ jim
Posted by noa on June 26, 2003, at 22:05:42
In reply to Re: PSB Getting to know you quiz » Brio D Chimp, posted by judy1 on June 26, 2003, at 12:50:06
>5. What fictional character would you like to have as therapist/counselor ?
Lucy, from Peanuts- what is she 5 cents an hour?LOL. She's inexpensive, yes, but I sure she is part of a managed behavioral health program.
"That'll be 5 cents, please. And don't forget to call your insurance company and get approved for 2 additional sessions."
Posted by Dinah on June 26, 2003, at 22:12:19
In reply to Re: Ok, who on earth is Atticus Finch, posted by noa on June 24, 2003, at 23:05:59
I decided my ignorance was just too embarassing.
Atticus Finch is certainly a worthy hero. And a great dad. An altogether admirable man. But I don't think I'd like him as a therapist. Just me of course, but he was a bit too laconic for my tastes. I think it might make me a bit nuts.
Different strokes.
Now I have to figure out how to get a glimpse of Jessie's therapist.
But I did think of another therapist I'd like to have. In the episode of Monk where he checked into the asylum. The murderous psychiatrist was very insightful and energetic. As Monk said, "Except for the murders, and that you tried to kill me, you were the best doctor I ever had." As long as I didn't catch on to his secrets or make him mad, he'd be pretty good. :)
Posted by zenhussy on June 26, 2003, at 22:41:03
In reply to Re: PSB Getting to know you quiz » judy1, posted by noa on June 26, 2003, at 22:05:42
> >5. What fictional character would you like to have as therapist/counselor ?
> Lucy, from Peanuts- what is she 5 cents an hour?
>
> LOL. She's inexpensive, yes, but I sure she is part of a managed behavioral health program.
>
> "That'll be 5 cents, please. And don't forget to call your insurance company and get approved for 2 additional sessions."Noa,
My goodness woman you are funny! First the image of the bouncing zoloft bubble in that AD ad that someone posted a bit back and now this? You are very funny. Kudos to judy1 for the Lucy choice. I think she is tops too. A bit bossy but that gal has nuggets of wisdom in there (Schultz (sp?) was good for so many years. His Peanuts will live on forever).
zh
Posted by yesac on June 27, 2003, at 13:50:05
In reply to re: yesac's another answer » yesac, posted by lil' jimi on June 26, 2003, at 16:05:31
> ... .. ... so i'm at a loss here ... ... i appreciate knowing you're a girl ... ... i don't know how to ... deal with how i didn't know ... ... because i don't need an excuse or anything since i haven't read you enough, which goes without saying ... ... and everything i feel about this new information to me is .. .... obvious and doesn't need saying ... ... (he looks at the floor and shuffles his feet) <sigh.> ... ... well, i'm glad you're a girl ... ... i like girls. .... thanks for letting me know .... oh! ... i'm a guy.Wow, sorry, I didn't mean to ruin your whole sense of stability in the world and with yourself. I hope that you can manage to once again find peace (if you ever had it to begin with).
Oh, and I did think that you are a guy, with the name Jim, BUT of course I really don't know if that's your real name, so it could very well be a ploy to keep your identity secret!>
> <ahem> ... "unfair" is so intrinsic to life that it stands to be asked in reply "Would we recognize it if life was fair?" ....
> .... and then perahps, "Would it be interesting?"Probably not to both questions. And, if life was "fair," then somehow people would still believe it wasn't. Utopia just isn't possible. And it probably would be more boring...
>
> OR
> perhaps its unfairness provides the challenge that makes life sporting .... .... say life was analogous to tennis ... ... the unfairness is the net ... ...Do you think that it is the net that is the unfairness? Because, since the net is equal for both players, then they really have equal opportunity, don't they? But yes, unfairness does provide a sense of challenge in life, like, if someone is less smart than others, he/she might want to challenge himself to work harder to achieve the same goals... but then, maybe it's impossible for this person to ever achieve the same goals, and he/she then just must dwell on the unfairness of it all, or learn to accept it. And then it might lead to low self-esteem, depression, and on and on. So whether this "challenge" of fighting the unfairnesses in our lives is good or bad, well that is another question.
>
> OR
> life is unfair in order to provide the dramatic tension to support meaningful narrative structure(s) ...True. It does lead to a lot of interesting conversation, whether directly or indirectly.
Posted by lil' jimi on June 27, 2003, at 21:22:04
In reply to I hope you are interested in my answers/thoughts! » lil' jimi, posted by yesac on June 27, 2003, at 13:50:05
hi yesac,
i had written:
> > ... .. ... so i'm at a loss here ... ... i appreciate knowing you're a girl ... ... i don't know how to ... deal with how i didn't know ... ... because i don't need an excuse or anything since i haven't read you enough, which goes without saying ... ... and everything i feel about this new information to me is .. .... obvious and doesn't need saying ... ... (he looks at the floor and shuffles his feet) <sigh.> ... ... well, i'm glad you're a girl ... ... i like girls. .... thanks for letting me know .... oh! ... i'm a guy.
>and you responded:
> Wow, sorry, I didn't mean to ruin your whole sense of stability in the world and with yourself. I hope that you can manage to once again find peace (if you ever had it to begin with).to which i now reply:
... ... actually, i'm out of shape by being happily married these 17 years ... ...
... ... and having you tell me you were/are a girl caught me off guard ...
... ... then somehow it hit my old shy-with-girl button ... ...
... ... i get to have more than my share of peace and stability ...
... ... but you must know that you have an effect on guys ... ... (?)
... ... and i have found my peace again, thank you ...you had said:
> Oh, and I did think that you are a guy, with the name Jim, BUT of course I really don't know if that's your real name, so it could very well be a ploy to keep your identity secret!me: 'jim' is my real name ... well, "James" is my first name... .. ... "Warren" is my middle name
... "you can call me anything you , please! ... just don't call me Late For Dinner!!"... .. ... about as secret as i get ...me from before:
> > <ahem> ... "unfair" is so intrinsic to life that it stands to be asked in reply "Would we recognize it if life was fair?" ....
> > .... and then perahps, "Would it be interesting?"& you replied:
> Probably not to both questions. And, if life was "fair," then somehow people would still believe it wasn't.me: Ahhhhhhh! someone Might believe that it was unfair for it to be so fair, perhaps? .... most HUMAN!
you:
> Utopia just isn't possible. And it probably would be more boring...me: we could expect some practical ... challenges ... .... but realizing the impossible could be exciting
me again:
> > perhaps its unfairness provides the challenge that makes life sporting .... .... say life was analogous to tennis ... ... the unfairness is the net ... ...your reply:
> Do you think that it is the net that is the unfairness? Because, since the net is equal for both players, then they really have equal opportunity, don't they?me: point well taken! ... i concede! ... my attempted analogy fails.
you:
> But yes, unfairness does provide a sense of challenge in life, like, if someone is less smart than others, he/she might want to challenge himself to work harder to achieve the same goals... but then, maybe it's impossible for this person to ever achieve the same goals, and he/she then just must dwell on the unfairness of it all, or learn to accept it. And then it might lead to low self-esteem, depression, and on and on. So whether this "challenge" of fighting the unfairnesses in our lives is good or bad, well that is another question.me: an apt analysis again succinctly said ....
... ... one the problems in utopia design school is to choose between:
1) having every one have identical capabilities and expectations
or
2) having everyone's expectations adjusted to match their capabilities
... ... either of these would seem to degrade indivduality or personal volition ... ... not too utopian.i had written:
> > life is unfair in order to provide the dramatic tension to support meaningful narrative structure(s) ...and you replied:
> True. It does lead to a lot of interesting conversation, whether directly or indirectly.me: ... ... conversation, good ... but my suggestion works too far to the absurd side of the street: "narrative structures" implies fiction ... ... life implies reality ... no cigar, jim!
you're observation is better: life has entertainment value!so, yes, my most kind Ms yesac, i am most interestred in your excellent thoughts ... ... they would seem to be improvements on my own ... .. ... and i like that. ..... thanks!
~ jim
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