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Posted by Jena Lyn on July 19, 2001, at 16:24:01
I stopped going to my therapist over a year ago,I moved back home from school and I never took that step to find a new one. I am moving 2000 miles away in a week , I need to start over, get out of this slump, but in these past weeks I have totally regressed back into my old habits. I don't eat, (Im a recovering annorexic), I cry myself to sleep at night and I am soo sad about everything in my life. I don't know if its because Im moving and am stressed out or if its because I haven't been in therapy and Im relapsing or what...should I get back into therapy after I move? WHat are my odds on getting over this alone? ??? I don't know what Im going to do......
Jena
Posted by sar on July 19, 2001, at 16:38:35
In reply to what do you think are my odds...., posted by Jena Lyn on July 19, 2001, at 16:24:01
Hey Jena Lyn,
I don't know what your "odds" are, but I don't think thsat matters. What matters is that you acquire yourself some doctors and possibly medication. Moving 90 mi was tough for me, I can't imagine 2000! I recommend that you get some support as soon as you can.
I saw a TV program several years ago about a woman in Canada who does really amazing work with anorexics--she's really tops in her field, and I think I saw the piece on her on 20/20 about 3 yrs ago. I'm sure either one of us could find out who she is.
It sounds to me like you're relapsing. Get yourslef some help, and keep posting.
sar
Posted by Glenn Fagelson on July 19, 2001, at 19:23:16
In reply to what do you think are my odds...., posted by Jena Lyn on July 19, 2001, at 16:24:01
> I stopped going to my therapist over a year ago,I moved back home from school and I never took that step to find a new one. I am moving 2000 miles away in a week , I need to start over, get out of this slump, but in these past weeks I have totally regressed back into my old habits. I don't eat, (Im a recovering annorexic), I cry myself to sleep at night and I am soo sad about everything in my life. I don't know if its because Im moving and am stressed out or if its because I haven't been in therapy and Im relapsing or what...should I get back into therapy after I move? WHat are my odds on getting over this alone? ??? I don't know what Im going to do......
> JenaDear Jena,
I agree with Sar; I believe that you need
somebody supportive to talk with. How come
you need to move 2000 miles away? Just
wondering....
Glenn
Posted by paula on July 19, 2001, at 21:59:50
In reply to Re: what do you think are my odds.... » Jena Lyn, posted by Glenn Fagelson on July 19, 2001, at 19:23:16
Dear Jena,
I'm not sure it matters whether or not you're relapsing. You're going through a tough time and getting some help might...help! Maybe this is one of those zen, "beginner's mind" moments? Anyhow, I agree with Sar and Glenn....
Warm wishes,
Paula> > I stopped going to my therapist over a year ago,I moved back home from school and I never took that step to find a new one. I am moving 2000 miles away in a week , I need to start over, get out of this slump, but in these past weeks I have totally regressed back into my old habits. I don't eat, (Im a recovering annorexic), I cry myself to sleep at night and I am soo sad about everything in my life. I don't know if its because Im moving and am stressed out or if its because I haven't been in therapy and Im relapsing or what...should I get back into therapy after I move? WHat are my odds on getting over this alone? ??? I don't know what Im going to do......
> > Jena
>
> Dear Jena,
>
> I agree with Sar; I believe that you need
> somebody supportive to talk with. How come
> you need to move 2000 miles away? Just
> wondering....
>
> Glenn
Posted by Jena Lyn on July 19, 2001, at 22:18:01
In reply to Re: what do you think are my odds...., posted by paula on July 19, 2001, at 21:59:50
Going back to a therapist would be really hard for me. I didn't have a very good experience with most of the therapists I tried. The only one that I got along with can't prescribe medication and isn't covered by my insurance. And going back into therapy would put me back under the microscope with my family and friends, and I don't want to be back in that position, it was aweful, having them watching me all the time. I think I am going to call my doc and have him call in a refill on my remeron, I took myself off that about a month ago. I just hate that I can't be strong without a stupid pill. I hate that I need other people to be okay, I thought I was moving past that, maybe that is my problem...I don't know. I just know that with everyday that passes latly I move farther and farther into this pit of darkness without a leg to stand on.
Jena
Posted by Willow on July 19, 2001, at 22:18:14
In reply to Re: what do you think are my odds...., posted by paula on July 19, 2001, at 21:59:50
> I'm not sure it matters whether or not you're relapsing. You're going through a tough time and getting some help might...help! Maybe this is one of those zen, "beginner's mind" moments? Anyhow, I agree with Sar and Glenn....
>I agree with Paula. We each deal with stress differently. Some people will eat during stressful times others don't . Me I snack constantly when bored, but when busy or stressed forget all about food. I keep nutritious and also high calorie snacks for those moments and have to make an effort to eat if my weight slips. (After my third child this really hasn't been an issue though, now I look more like the women from the Renaissance period.)
Needless to say we are social animals. Jena don't suffer alone. Yes get a professional to help, they know warning signs better then well intentioned friends. But also get a social safety net in your new town, at a pace which is comfortable for you. And of course we're always out here in the cyberworld if you need a shoulder to lean on.
Best Wishes
Willow
Posted by Jena Lyn on July 19, 2001, at 22:28:57
In reply to Regressing ..., posted by Willow on July 19, 2001, at 22:18:14
I just thought of something that maybe one of you could help me with-I really think it would help me to do group therapy more than one on one therapy with a doc, when I was in the hospital I got so much more out of our group sessions that I did with just my docs. Since Ive come out of the hospital, I haven't gone to group therapy, I don't even know where to look to find one??? What do I do, where do I look, who do I call? I might be able to make myself go to that...
Jena>
> > I'm not sure it matters whether or not you're relapsing. You're going through a tough time and getting some help might...help! Maybe this is one of those zen, "beginner's mind" moments? Anyhow, I agree with Sar and Glenn....
> >
>
> I agree with Paula. We each deal with stress differently. Some people will eat during stressful times others don't . Me I snack constantly when bored, but when busy or stressed forget all about food. I keep nutritious and also high calorie snacks for those moments and have to make an effort to eat if my weight slips. (After my third child this really hasn't been an issue though, now I look more like the women from the Renaissance period.)
>
> Needless to say we are social animals. Jena don't suffer alone. Yes get a professional to help, they know warning signs better then well intentioned friends. But also get a social safety net in your new town, at a pace which is comfortable for you. And of course we're always out here in the cyberworld if you need a shoulder to lean on.
>
> Best Wishes
> Willow
Posted by paula on July 20, 2001, at 1:21:38
In reply to Re: Regressing ..., posted by Jena Lyn on July 19, 2001, at 22:28:57
> I really think it would help me to do group therapy more than one on one therapy with a doc
> Jena> > Needless to say we are social animals. Jena don't suffer alone.
> > Willow"Don't suffer alone." Wow, that describes my entire experience to a tee. I always that that my one, my only redeeming quality was that I DID suffer silently. Boy is THAT a good way to get stuck. I definitely need to be reminded that I, too, am a social animal--try as I might to deny it. I can see how group therapy would be incredibly helpful. FOr me, though, just talking to a therapist has been very, very "public." Come to think of it, this board is the closest I've gotten to group therapy and I generally feel impotent to help anyone else; I just feel like a sycophant. At least in one-on-one therapy you're SUPPOSED to be the center of the universe. :)
Paula
Posted by Anna Laura on July 20, 2001, at 2:25:56
In reply to what do you think are my odds...., posted by Jena Lyn on July 19, 2001, at 16:24:01
> I stopped going to my therapist over a year ago,I moved back home from school and I never took that step to find a new one. I am moving 2000 miles away in a week , I need to start over, get out of this slump, but in these past weeks I have totally regressed back into my old habits. I don't eat, (Im a recovering annorexic), I cry myself to sleep at night and I am soo sad about everything in my life. I don't know if its because Im moving and am stressed out or if its because I haven't been in therapy and Im relapsing or what...should I get back into therapy after I move? WHat are my odds on getting over this alone? ??? I don't know what Im going to do......
> Jena
Hi Jena,First thing: moving is very very stressful so don't blame yourself if you're "regressing".
Second: i think you should find some help and start some medication: it doesn't mean you're weak; mental distress sometimes is so strong that goes way beyond human strenght; don't blame yourself if you're not "strong enough"; mental illness can be so painful that can be the equivalent of pshysical pain such as cancer and other serious diseases.
Reach out for help: you won't regret that.Anna Laura
Posted by Glenn Fagelson on July 20, 2001, at 20:55:35
In reply to Re: Regressing ..., posted by Jena Lyn on July 19, 2001, at 22:28:57
> I just thought of something that maybe one of you could help me with-I really think it would help me to do group therapy more than one on one therapy with a doc, when I was in the hospital I got so much more out of our group sessions that I did with just my docs. Since Ive come out of the hospital, I haven't gone to group therapy, I don't even know where to look to find one??? What do I do, where do I look, who do I call? I might be able to make myself go to that...
> Jena
>
> >
> > > I'm not sure it matters whether or not you're relapsing. You're going through a tough time and getting some help might...help! Maybe this is one of those zen, "beginner's mind" moments? Anyhow, I agree with Sar and Glenn....
> > >
> >
> > I agree with Paula. We each deal with stress differently. Some people will eat during stressful times others don't . Me I snack constantly when bored, but when busy or stressed forget all about food. I keep nutritious and also high calorie snacks for those moments and have to make an effort to eat if my weight slips. (After my third child this really hasn't been an issue though, now I look more like the women from the Renaissance period.)
> >
> > Needless to say we are social animals. Jena don't suffer alone. Yes get a professional to help, they know warning signs better then well intentioned friends. But also get a social safety net in your new town, at a pace which is comfortable for you. And of course we're always out here in the cyberworld if you need a shoulder to lean on.
> >
> > Best Wishes
> > WillowDear Jena Lyn,
I agree with Willow; do not try to suffer
alone. I am also here if you need someone
to talk with.Glenn
Posted by Willow on July 21, 2001, at 23:09:54
In reply to Re: Regressing ..., posted by Glenn Fagelson on July 20, 2001, at 20:55:35
I don't know what country you are in but generally they probably all have similarities. Check if there are any "mental health clinics" and ask them about the group therapy, hospitals, or any place like these is a start in locating a good group. There are self-help groups but you have to almost interview them. You don't want one that isn't going to help. I'm sure there are some guidelines on how to judge, but I don't know where to start in looking for this info.
Keep in touch!
Willow
Posted by Dubya on July 25, 2001, at 23:54:21
In reply to what do you think are my odds...., posted by Jena Lyn on July 19, 2001, at 16:24:01
your situation pretty much mirrors mine... but I haven't found that 'stupid pill' yet and really want to find it... anyways please do get yourself some sort of assistance, help, new family doc, new psychiatrist (shrink) or whatever else your insurance covers. You deserve it for yourself to get some help. I'm a student.. at least I'm glad you're not me b/c, it is so difficult for me to even be straightforward with my any of my docs, I can't explain things properly and am pretty much shy in addition to now being diagnosed with having an anxiety disorder/dysthmyic depression/ocd symptoms. Do ask for help, it isn't easy, and you don't have to pretend that there is nothing wrong with you or that you don't need that 'stupid pill' because from what I see, in the end you will benefit and have a chance to 'grow' out of your depressive state with the help of medicines/therapy/exercise. I do hope that insurance will cover all of the medicines and therapy you need, that would make a difference too, esp. for a student. Let's just say I'm even to shy to ask my understand family doc to increase my dosage from 40mg up to a more beneficial level, I don't know what to say and I don't even have the guts to say that the improvement is non-existent right now or that I've seen very small improvement and now I'm back to no improvement. To make matters worse, summer holidays or summer in general is a disaster for me/my depression, I can't even clean my room and I'm not even in school right now or anything. I have noooooooo motivation to clean up my room or leave the house, I could be at home for 23hrs straight. THat too, in summer, I regret every single thing that comes into my summer's empty mind. Even worse, during the whole entire year (12mths), I can't even follow or remember simple directions such as when I'm at the gym with a friend and my friend asks to go drive them to Starbucks (about a mile from the gym), I totally forget and head in the opposite direction to their house... once half way to their house,it finally strikes me that I forgot to do something and then I remember... then from there, I try to remember to remember not to forget where I'm going this time, starbucks. So please don't be like me, do get help, I don't know where to start to get help b/c I'm messed
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