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Posted by Nardilstarted 2007 on December 5, 2008, at 14:12:35
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » Nardilstarted 2007, posted by JadeKelly on December 3, 2008, at 22:47:04
Hey I;m in your corner. I'm glad to hear you have tenacity and will give it a fair trail (I think of it like court, its a long process full of different Levels) but by the end, the verdict is made, Parnate Will or Will not work. Ya sure, Go above 60 a day ( i do 30am and 30 at noon)I ve read so many post, where people go to very high dosages for it to work. highest i ever read on this site was 180md/day.
O and I changed my name to ParnateStarted2008 lol.
Keep me posted
Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 6, 2008, at 0:49:11
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by Nardilstarted 2007 on December 5, 2008, at 14:12:35
If your feeling ok, how is 50mgs/day Parnate treating you? Do you have the initial "good feeling" from the NE/EPIneph? How are the side effects... I may be asking too much here as you just raised it.. Im eager I guess to know your progress. If ya Feel like crapoolliioo dont worry about my questions..
I got trazodone 50mg at bed time today so Im not taking Zopiclone or Seroquel tonight, and hopefully never again. I guess that cuts 1 pill off my regime.. slow but progress. next is going off Clonazepam...
Talk to you later
Posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 12:52:55
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » Nardilstarted 2007, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 6, 2008, at 0:49:11
Hi Phil,
Actually have only taken 50mg one time yesterday.
> If your feeling ok, how is 50mgs/day Parnate treating you? Do you have the initial "good feeling" from the NE/EPIneph?
Nope. (Only took once yesteday-not sure about it now, help?)
Actually haven't been feeling so great for couple days: Bad nightmare, irritable, sad, crying (not the good kind) OMG!!! FEELINGS!! NO!! Thought I was supposed to feel good. I feel Yuk. That was why I upped to 50mg. Geuss I thought 8 weeks was enough.
>How are the side effects... I may be asking too much here as you just raised it.. Im eager I guess to know your progress. If ya Feel like crapoolliioo dont worry about my questions..NO, NO! I do feel like crapoolliioo physically and mentally, but tell me I'm normal and this will go away!!
I realized I had been on 30mg/6weeks and 40mg/2weeks (seems like 8 weeks is a while on Parnate) and geuss I panicked and called PDoc. He raised to 50mg. But you said wait 3 weeks on each. Did I make a mistake? Its not too late, I only did it once. I can go back to 40mg for another week.
You, and other poster said its normal to feel wierd, I just don't know if this is "the wierd" or I'm just backsliding and need to keep on 50mg. I feel a bit scared and headache and like I'm going to cry. Not good cry like yours. Don't want to leave my room.
So, up the dose to 50mg?
Or this is normal and stay on 40mg longer?
Def got some feelings coming back, but not good ones. (Can I go back to numb pplease?) Ok, more crying this is rediculous.
> I got trazodone 50mg at bed time today so Im not taking Zopiclone or Seroquel tonight, and hopefully never again. I guess that cuts 1 pill off my regime.. slow but progress. next is going off Clonazepam...Good for you!! Lots here take trazodone. I'm geussing it will help you sleep?
Me too, I need off Conazepam. Take for my neck, but maybe a couple right now....JK!
NOT quitting Parnate, its been 8 weeks tho, would love to know if you think I'm on right track/ or this isn't normal and I should feel differently.
> Talk to you later
OK, Phillipe!!
Btw-Phillipa said to mention: you have to let admin know of name change, or you could get block or something. You probably know that.
Thanks for all, hope to hear from you soon.
~Jade
>
Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 6, 2008, at 14:00:51
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » ParnateStarted2008, posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 12:52:55
> Hi Phil,
>
> Actually have only taken 50mg one time yesterday.
>
> > If your feeling ok, how is 50mgs/day Parnate treating you? Do you have the initial "good feeling" from the NE/EPIneph?
>
> Nope. (Only took once yesteday-not sure about it now, help?)
>
> Actually haven't been feeling so great for couple days: Bad nightmare, irritable, sad, crying (not the good kind) OMG!!! FEELINGS!! NO!! Thought I was supposed to feel good. I feel Yuk. That was why I upped to 50mg. Geuss I thought 8 weeks was enough.
>
> >How are the side effects... I may be asking too much here as you just raised it.. Im eager I guess to know your progress. If ya Feel like crapoolliioo dont worry about my questions..
>
> NO, NO! I do feel like crapoolliioo physically and mentally, but tell me I'm normal and this will go away!!
>
> I realized I had been on 30mg/6weeks and 40mg/2weeks (seems like 8 weeks is a while on Parnate) and geuss I panicked and called PDoc. He raised to 50mg. But you said wait 3 weeks on each. Did I make a mistake? Its not too late, I only did it once. I can go back to 40mg for another week.
>
> You, and other poster said its normal to feel wierd, I just don't know if this is "the wierd" or I'm just backsliding and need to keep on 50mg. I feel a bit scared and headache and like I'm going to cry. Not good cry like yours. Don't want to leave my room.
>
> So, up the dose to 50mg?
> Or this is normal and stay on 40mg longer?
> Def got some feelings coming back, but not good ones. (Can I go back to numb pplease?) Ok, more crying this is rediculous.
>
>
> > I got trazodone 50mg at bed time today so Im not taking Zopiclone or Seroquel tonight, and hopefully never again. I guess that cuts 1 pill off my regime.. slow but progress. next is going off Clonazepam...
>
> Good for you!! Lots here take trazodone. I'm geussing it will help you sleep?
>
> Me too, I need off Conazepam. Take for my neck, but maybe a couple right now....JK!
>
> NOT quitting Parnate, its been 8 weeks tho, would love to know if you think I'm on right track/ or this isn't normal and I should feel differently.
>
> > Talk to you later
>
> OK, Phillipe!!
>
> Btw-Phillipa said to mention: you have to let admin know of name change, or you could get block or something. You probably know that.
>
> Thanks for all, hope to hear from you soon.
>
> ~Jade
> >
>
Morning, Stay at 50, I sure would. sooner or later The Serotonin AD effect should kick in (I know , its always Should) and that is the neuro to get you some happiness back. upping 10mg/s every 2 weeks sounds good. I figured maybe 3 if you needed more time for the side effects to settle down. when I was at 50 and reduced to 40 because of overwhelming side effects it cost me like 3 weeks more waiting. I should of held on and gone to 60 mgs when the 50 wasnt working. Ya those emotions/crying spells are a Parnate issue foresure. I find I'm doing a bit better now, but at my week 8, even tho I was at 60, I sure was an emotional wreck. I believe the higher you go, the happier you get (thats why high doses work good for anxiety people and phobias, the serotonin really kicks in) At lower doses (<60 ?) I believe you feel more task oriented and feelings. Serotonin numbs alot of people. I'm probably going to go to 70mgs/day soon for a better responce to anxiety. I wont forget I was alredy on Nardil the day before switching so I know i got away without having many Parnate startup SE's.
..
Jade I know its been 8 weeks but if you dont get to your sweet dose it will never kick in, just gotta get there, I think your getting there. Ya I would agree with that person startup feelings are really weird, I felt crapoolliioo like you much of the time mixed with manias at dose increases and then I felt Good withh lots of emotions, now I feel OK/good/less emotions. I think 70mgs will bring me more serotonin and happier thoughts for anxiety which is in a way , numbing.
talk to you soon.
Posted by desolationrower on December 6, 2008, at 15:53:32
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » ParnateStarted2008, posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 12:52:55
Affective lability might indicate you have bipolar tendencies. You may want to add an anticonfulsant to your drug especially lamotrigine.
-d/r
Posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 16:19:18
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 6, 2008, at 14:00:51
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > Actually have only taken 50mg one time yesterday.
> >
> > > If your feeling ok, how is 50mgs/day Parnate treating you? Do you have the initial "good feeling" from the NE/EPIneph?
> >
> > Nope. (Only took once yesteday-not sure about it now, help?)
> >
> > Actually haven't been feeling so great for couple days: Bad nightmare, irritable, sad, crying (not the good kind) OMG!!! FEELINGS!! NO!! Thought I was supposed to feel good. I feel Yuk. That was why I upped to 50mg. Geuss I thought 8 weeks was enough.
> >
> > >How are the side effects... I may be asking too much here as you just raised it.. Im eager I guess to know your progress. If ya Feel like crapoolliioo dont worry about my questions..
> >
> > NO, NO! I do feel like crapoolliioo physically and mentally, but tell me I'm normal and this will go away!!
> >
> > I realized I had been on 30mg/6weeks and 40mg/2weeks (seems like 8 weeks is a while on Parnate) and geuss I panicked and called PDoc. He raised to 50mg. But you said wait 3 weeks on each. Did I make a mistake? Its not too late, I only did it once. I can go back to 40mg for another week.
> >
> > You, and other poster said its normal to feel wierd, I just don't know if this is "the wierd" or I'm just backsliding and need to keep on 50mg. I feel a bit scared and headache and like I'm going to cry. Not good cry like yours. Don't want to leave my room.
> >
> > So, up the dose to 50mg?
> > Or this is normal and stay on 40mg longer?
> > Def got some feelings coming back, but not good ones. (Can I go back to numb pplease?) Ok, more crying this is rediculous.
> >
> >
> > > I got trazodone 50mg at bed time today so Im not taking Zopiclone or Seroquel tonight, and hopefully never again. I guess that cuts 1 pill off my regime.. slow but progress. next is going off Clonazepam...
> >
> > Good for you!! Lots here take trazodone. I'm geussing it will help you sleep?
> >
> > Me too, I need off Conazepam. Take for my neck, but maybe a couple right now....JK!
> >
> > NOT quitting Parnate, its been 8 weeks tho, would love to know if you think I'm on right track/ or this isn't normal and I should feel differently.
> >
> > > Talk to you later
> >
> > OK, Phillipe!!
> >
> > Btw-Phillipa said to mention: you have to let admin know of name change, or you could get block or something. You probably know that.
> >
> > Thanks for all, hope to hear from you soon.
> >
> > ~Jade
> > >
> >
> Morning, Stay at 50, I sure would. sooner or later The Serotonin AD effect should kick in (I know , its always Should) and that is the neuro to get you some happiness back. upping 10mg/s every 2 weeks sounds good. I figured maybe 3 if you needed more time for the side effects to settle down. when I was at 50 and reduced to 40 because of overwhelming side effects it cost me like 3 weeks more waiting. I should of held on and gone to 60 mgs when the 50 wasnt working. Ya those emotions/crying spells are a Parnate issue foresure. I find I'm doing a bit better now, but at my week 8, even tho I was at 60, I sure was an emotional wreck. I believe the higher you go, the happier you get (thats why high doses work good for anxiety people and phobias, the serotonin really kicks in) At lower doses (<60 ?) I believe you feel more task oriented and feelings. Serotonin numbs alot of people. I'm probably going to go to 70mgs/day soon for a better responce to anxiety. I wont forget I was alredy on Nardil the day before switching so I know i got away without having many Parnate startup SE's.
> ..
> Jade I know its been 8 weeks but if you dont get to your sweet dose it will never kick in, just gotta get there, I think your getting there. Ya I would agree with that person startup feelings are really weird, I felt crapoolliioo like you much of the time mixed with manias at dose increases and then I felt Good withh lots of emotions, now I feel OK/good/less emotions. I think 70mgs will bring me more serotonin and happier thoughts for anxiety which is in a way , numbing.*I hope it does, let me know how're your feeling after you do it! I could use some good news :)
> talk to you soon.
Hey,
Thanks for answering my post so quick. I'm really not sure what the he*l is going on. You don't realize how far you've come until BAM a backslide to the beginning which is how I feel except its all the way back to before Parnate and numbness set in.
>
I don't mean I was functional at all (except during awesome NE highs) but if no one asked much of me, I felt numb to the really bad stuff, not too emotional, sense of humor, that kind of thing (would the word be "lite"?).Starting to think apathy is highly underated. I just want so bad to be me again and I'm afraid I'm gone. I know, probably too deep for a med babble forum. Thanks, and don't leave me, haha, please!!!
Oh, couple questions (had to re-read post),
If I never could take SSRI's AT ALL, is that bad sign? Shouldn't be ,right, since I've gotten huge rush at start and when upped to 40mg? Also, are you just being nice....or did you really feel like total emotional crap at 8 weeks? Even if you're lying, your so kind to say that, hah.
One last thing, thank you SO much for bailing me out with Clipper40, I felt like I made her feel worse. And by the way, what does "one love" refer to? Prov?, you were in the middle of a Bob Marley song? Or you must have meant me. Thats what I'm going with. No worries, (Bob again, ha), I won't tell your girlfriend.
OK Friend, I feel better already,
I'll be embarressed about all this whining later but thats the beauty of being anonomous! And quit Parnate?? NEVERRRR!!!!!! Augment? Maybe, haha.~Jade
Posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 17:37:27
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by desolationrower on December 6, 2008, at 15:53:32
> Affective lability might indicate you have bipolar tendencies. You may want to add an anticonfulsant to your drug especially lamotrigine.
>
> -d/rHi d/r,
My Pdoc brought it up a couple times and I shut him down. He's wanted me to add lamictal for a while. I thought it was because Bi-polar-I runs in my family. One person per generation so far. Geuss that would be Bi-polar II for me, then? Lamictal is an adjunct to an anticonvulsant, isn't it? I've always been a relatively happy person. And now this. For going on 3 years. Stinks.
OK d/r, I'll talk to my PDoc. But maybe one of those giant bong rips would fix me. And I don't even like the stuff...
Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 6, 2008, at 17:45:14
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » ParnateStarted2008, posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 16:19:18
> > > Hi Phil,
> > >
> > > Actually have only taken 50mg one time yesterday.
> > >
> > > > If your feeling ok, how is 50mgs/day Parnate treating you? Do you have the initial "good feeling" from the NE/EPIneph?
> > >
> > > Nope. (Only took once yesteday-not sure about it now, help?)
> > >
> > > Actually haven't been feeling so great for couple days: Bad nightmare, irritable, sad, crying (not the good kind) OMG!!! FEELINGS!! NO!! Thought I was supposed to feel good. I feel Yuk. That was why I upped to 50mg. Geuss I thought 8 weeks was enough.
> > >
> > > >How are the side effects... I may be asking too much here as you just raised it.. Im eager I guess to know your progress. If ya Feel like crapoolliioo dont worry about my questions..
> > >
> > > NO, NO! I do feel like crapoolliioo physically and mentally, but tell me I'm normal and this will go away!!
> > >
> > > I realized I had been on 30mg/6weeks and 40mg/2weeks (seems like 8 weeks is a while on Parnate) and geuss I panicked and called PDoc. He raised to 50mg. But you said wait 3 weeks on each. Did I make a mistake? Its not too late, I only did it once. I can go back to 40mg for another week.
> > >
> > > You, and other poster said its normal to feel wierd, I just don't know if this is "the wierd" or I'm just backsliding and need to keep on 50mg. I feel a bit scared and headache and like I'm going to cry. Not good cry like yours. Don't want to leave my room.
> > >
> > > So, up the dose to 50mg?
> > > Or this is normal and stay on 40mg longer?
> > > Def got some feelings coming back, but not good ones. (Can I go back to numb pplease?) Ok, more crying this is rediculous.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I got trazodone 50mg at bed time today so Im not taking Zopiclone or Seroquel tonight, and hopefully never again. I guess that cuts 1 pill off my regime.. slow but progress. next is going off Clonazepam...
> > >
> > > Good for you!! Lots here take trazodone. I'm geussing it will help you sleep?
> > >
> > > Me too, I need off Conazepam. Take for my neck, but maybe a couple right now....JK!
> > >
> > > NOT quitting Parnate, its been 8 weeks tho, would love to know if you think I'm on right track/ or this isn't normal and I should feel differently.
> > >
> > > > Talk to you later
> > >
> > > OK, Phillipe!!
> > >
> > > Btw-Phillipa said to mention: you have to let admin know of name change, or you could get block or something. You probably know that.
> > >
> > > Thanks for all, hope to hear from you soon.
> > >
> > > ~Jade
> > > >
> > >
> > Morning, Stay at 50, I sure would. sooner or later The Serotonin AD effect should kick in (I know , its always Should) and that is the neuro to get you some happiness back. upping 10mg/s every 2 weeks sounds good. I figured maybe 3 if you needed more time for the side effects to settle down. when I was at 50 and reduced to 40 because of overwhelming side effects it cost me like 3 weeks more waiting. I should of held on and gone to 60 mgs when the 50 wasnt working. Ya those emotions/crying spells are a Parnate issue foresure. I find I'm doing a bit better now, but at my week 8, even tho I was at 60, I sure was an emotional wreck. I believe the higher you go, the happier you get (thats why high doses work good for anxiety people and phobias, the serotonin really kicks in) At lower doses (<60 ?) I believe you feel more task oriented and feelings. Serotonin numbs alot of people. I'm probably going to go to 70mgs/day soon for a better responce to anxiety. I wont forget I was alredy on Nardil the day before switching so I know i got away without having many Parnate startup SE's.
> > ..
> > Jade I know its been 8 weeks but if you dont get to your sweet dose it will never kick in, just gotta get there, I think your getting there. Ya I would agree with that person startup feelings are really weird, I felt crapoolliioo like you much of the time mixed with manias at dose increases and then I felt Good withh lots of emotions, now I feel OK/good/less emotions. I think 70mgs will bring me more serotonin and happier thoughts for anxiety which is in a way , numbing.
>
> *I hope it does, let me know how're your feeling after you do it! I could use some good news :)
>
> > talk to you soon.
>
> Hey,
>
> Thanks for answering my post so quick. I'm really not sure what the he*l is going on. You don't realize how far you've come until BAM a backslide to the beginning which is how I feel except its all the way back to before Parnate and numbness set in.
> >
> I don't mean I was functional at all (except during awesome NE highs) but if no one asked much of me, I felt numb to the really bad stuff, not too emotional, sense of humor, that kind of thing (would the word be "lite"?).
>
> Starting to think apathy is highly underated. I just want so bad to be me again and I'm afraid I'm gone. I know, probably too deep for a med babble forum. Thanks, and don't leave me, haha, please!!!
>
> Oh, couple questions (had to re-read post),
>
> If I never could take SSRI's AT ALL, is that bad sign? Shouldn't be ,right, since I've gotten huge rush at start and when upped to 40mg? Also, are you just being nice....or did you really feel like total emotional crap at 8 weeks? Even if you're lying, your so kind to say that, hah.
>
> One last thing, thank you SO much for bailing me out with Clipper40, I felt like I made her feel worse. And by the way, what does "one love" refer to? Prov?, you were in the middle of a Bob Marley song? Or you must have meant me. Thats what I'm going with. No worries, (Bob again, ha), I won't tell your girlfriend.
>
> OK Friend, I feel better already,
> I'll be embarressed about all this whining later but thats the beauty of being anonomous! And quit Parnate?? NEVERRRR!!!!!! Augment? Maybe, haha.
>
> ~Jade
>
Im really Glad your pushing all the way with Parnate until we Finally know if it will work. Its an MAOI It has to work at some point, sooner or later you will(im almost sure) get to 100% MAO Inhibition. There is a blood test available that can show the amount of the MAO Inhibition. 80% is the sweet spot for most but Ive read some people only feel good at 100%. I was not just being nice about the 8 week feeling bad mark. I knew PARnt was working because I felt the AD efffects, but man o man I was having horrendous feelings of sadness, depression, crying, holding my frontal lobe etc.. but it would come and go. When it would go I felt great. Most of the time I knew what would set me off to feeling horrible: thoughts of a dead friend, a lost friend, myself being mentally screwed up, girls (I wont tell my gf about us eh, glad u wont either hahah).If you couldnt tolerate an ssri, ok. Makes no difference They are completely different. SSRI side effects were just as bad for me, once i could tolerate them they didnt work for me any way. However they made me numb, emotionless, crazy and able to drink like a fish. Parnate is soo different, I have feelings because its not just working on SE but the whole spectrum of neurons. And the higher the dose the more neurons it will increase leaving your brain in a heightened state all around, not just Serotonin.
As for apathy and ahendonia(i think its spelt) Parnate is top choice along with Wellbutrin and Effexor(effexor for some people.. its only an ssri until you really ramp up the dose to 300+mg/day , then it begins to hit NORE/DA)
K last lil coment here b4 i write too much.. I really believe Parnate takes a long time to settle. I hit my sweet spot at 60mgs/day it took 10 days at that dose, Then BAM it kicked in. That was November 3rd. in the last 4 weeks its gone from good to emotional to sad to overemotional to mania's and now its calming down. I want some more Anxiolytic action so 70mgs I MAY go (thats my hypothesis that the higher dose, the more SE action, which is just what I need for anxiety).
One love was what my best friend used to say all the time.. Now that he's gone we all wonder what it really ment when He'd yell it out. I think the "one" was the person he was saying it to and he was giving out the love to ya.. ill never know but it sure sounded cool to hear him yell it at the end of a night or welcoming pple. He died in April from too many street drugs that led him to a river to drown. im dealing with it but it sent me psychotic twice. But Jade, whats cool is that Parnate makes me feel normal when I think of it now, yes still over the top with emotions but Im not dull, The sad feeling is right for the thought of him, gives me a very human chill..( ya you bet I got tears from that lol.. (hmm Parnate making me human again? or more)
Hang in there at 50, talk to you soon
Posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 21:51:35
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 6, 2008, at 17:45:14
Hi Phil,
Losing someone you love is, well, its life changing. And it sucks. Good you're making it to the other side.
Jade
Posted by JadeKelly on December 8, 2008, at 23:05:13
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 6, 2008, at 17:45:14
> > > > Hi Phil,
> > > >
> > > > Actually have only taken 50mg one time yesterday.
> > > >
> > > > > If your feeling ok, how is 50mgs/day Parnate treating you? Do you have the initial "good feeling" from the NE/EPIneph?
> > > >
> > > > Nope. (Only took once yesteday-not sure about it now, help?)
> > > >
> > > > Actually haven't been feeling so great for couple days: Bad nightmare, irritable, sad, crying (not the good kind) OMG!!! FEELINGS!! NO!! Thought I was supposed to feel good. I feel Yuk. That was why I upped to 50mg. Geuss I thought 8 weeks was enough.
> > > >
> > > > >How are the side effects... I may be asking too much here as you just raised it.. Im eager I guess to know your progress. If ya Feel like crapoolliioo dont worry about my questions..
> > > >
> > > > NO, NO! I do feel like crapoolliioo physically and mentally, but tell me I'm normal and this will go away!!
> > > >
> > > > I realized I had been on 30mg/6weeks and 40mg/2weeks (seems like 8 weeks is a while on Parnate) and geuss I panicked and called PDoc. He raised to 50mg. But you said wait 3 weeks on each. Did I make a mistake? Its not too late, I only did it once. I can go back to 40mg for another week.
> > > >
> > > > You, and other poster said its normal to feel wierd, I just don't know if this is "the wierd" or I'm just backsliding and need to keep on 50mg. I feel a bit scared and headache and like I'm going to cry. Not good cry like yours. Don't want to leave my room.
> > > >
> > > > So, up the dose to 50mg?
> > > > Or this is normal and stay on 40mg longer?
> > > > Def got some feelings coming back, but not good ones. (Can I go back to numb pplease?) Ok, more crying this is rediculous.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I got trazodone 50mg at bed time today so Im not taking Zopiclone or Seroquel tonight, and hopefully never again. I guess that cuts 1 pill off my regime.. slow but progress. next is going off Clonazepam...
> > > >
> > > > Good for you!! Lots here take trazodone. I'm geussing it will help you sleep?
> > > >
> > > > Me too, I need off Conazepam. Take for my neck, but maybe a couple right now....JK!
> > > >
> > > > NOT quitting Parnate, its been 8 weeks tho, would love to know if you think I'm on right track/ or this isn't normal and I should feel differently.
> > > >
> > > > > Talk to you later
> > > >
> > > > OK, Phillipe!!
> > > >
> > > > Btw-Phillipa said to mention: you have to let admin know of name change, or you could get block or something. You probably know that.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for all, hope to hear from you soon.
> > > >
> > > > ~Jade
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > Morning, Stay at 50, I sure would. sooner or later The Serotonin AD effect should kick in (I know , its always Should) and that is the neuro to get you some happiness back. upping 10mg/s every 2 weeks sounds good. I figured maybe 3 if you needed more time for the side effects to settle down. when I was at 50 and reduced to 40 because of overwhelming side effects it cost me like 3 weeks more waiting. I should of held on and gone to 60 mgs when the 50 wasnt working. Ya those emotions/crying spells are a Parnate issue foresure. I find I'm doing a bit better now, but at my week 8, even tho I was at 60, I sure was an emotional wreck. I believe the higher you go, the happier you get (thats why high doses work good for anxiety people and phobias, the serotonin really kicks in) At lower doses (<60 ?) I believe you feel more task oriented and feelings. Serotonin numbs alot of people. I'm probably going to go to 70mgs/day soon for a better responce to anxiety. I wont forget I was alredy on Nardil the day before switching so I know i got away without having many Parnate startup SE's.
> > > ..
> > > Jade I know its been 8 weeks but if you dont get to your sweet dose it will never kick in, just gotta get there, I think your getting there. Ya I would agree with that person startup feelings are really weird, I felt crapoolliioo like you much of the time mixed with manias at dose increases and then I felt Good withh lots of emotions, now I feel OK/good/less emotions. I think 70mgs will bring me more serotonin and happier thoughts for anxiety which is in a way , numbing.
> >
> > *I hope it does, let me know how're your feeling after you do it! I could use some good news :)
> >
> > > talk to you soon.
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > Thanks for answering my post so quick. I'm really not sure what the he*l is going on. You don't realize how far you've come until BAM a backslide to the beginning which is how I feel except its all the way back to before Parnate and numbness set in.
> > >
> > I don't mean I was functional at all (except during awesome NE highs) but if no one asked much of me, I felt numb to the really bad stuff, not too emotional, sense of humor, that kind of thing (would the word be "lite"?).
> >
> > Starting to think apathy is highly underated. I just want so bad to be me again and I'm afraid I'm gone. I know, probably too deep for a med babble forum. Thanks, and don't leave me, haha, please!!!
> >
> > Oh, couple questions (had to re-read post),
> >
> > If I never could take SSRI's AT ALL, is that bad sign? Shouldn't be ,right, since I've gotten huge rush at start and when upped to 40mg? Also, are you just being nice....or did you really feel like total emotional crap at 8 weeks? Even if you're lying, your so kind to say that, hah.
> >
> > One last thing, thank you SO much for bailing me out with Clipper40, I felt like I made her feel worse. And by the way, what does "one love" refer to? Prov?, you were in the middle of a Bob Marley song? Or you must have meant me. Thats what I'm going with. No worries, (Bob again, ha), I won't tell your girlfriend.
> >
> > OK Friend, I feel better already,
> > I'll be embarressed about all this whining later but thats the beauty of being anonomous! And quit Parnate?? NEVERRRR!!!!!! Augment? Maybe, haha.
> >
> > ~Jade
> >
> Im really Glad your pushing all the way with Parnate until we Finally know if it will work. Its an MAOI It has to work at some point, sooner or later you will(im almost sure) get to 100% MAO Inhibition. There is a blood test available that can show the amount of the MAO Inhibition. 80% is the sweet spot for most but Ive read some people only feel good at 100%. I was not just being nice about the 8 week feeling bad mark. I knew PARnt was working because I felt the AD efffects, but man o man I was having horrendous feelings of sadness, depression, crying, holding my frontal lobe etc.. but it would come and go. When it would go I felt great. Most of the time I knew what would set me off to feeling horrible: thoughts of a dead friend, a lost friend, myself being mentally screwed up, girls (I wont tell my gf about us eh, glad u wont either hahah).
>
> If you couldnt tolerate an ssri, ok. Makes no difference They are completely different. SSRI side effects were just as bad for me, once i could tolerate them they didnt work for me any way. However they made me numb, emotionless, crazy and able to drink like a fish. Parnate is soo different, I have feelings because its not just working on SE but the whole spectrum of neurons. And the higher the dose the more neurons it will increase leaving your brain in a heightened state all around, not just Serotonin.
>
> As for apathy and ahendonia(i think its spelt) Parnate is top choice along with Wellbutrin and Effexor(effexor for some people.. its only an ssri until you really ramp up the dose to 300+mg/day , then it begins to hit NORE/DA)
>
> K last lil coment here b4 i write too much.. I really believe Parnate takes a long time to settle. I hit my sweet spot at 60mgs/day it took 10 days at that dose, Then BAM it kicked in. That was November 3rd. in the last 4 weeks its gone from good to emotional to sad to overemotional to mania's and now its calming down. I want some more Anxiolytic action so 70mgs I MAY go (thats my hypothesis that the higher dose, the more SE action, which is just what I need for anxiety).
>
> One love was what my best friend used to say all the time.. Now that he's gone we all wonder what it really ment when He'd yell it out. I think the "one" was the person he was saying it to and he was giving out the love to ya.. ill never know but it sure sounded cool to hear him yell it at the end of a night or welcoming pple. He died in April from too many street drugs that led him to a river to drown. im dealing with it but it sent me psychotic twice. But Jade, whats cool is that Parnate makes me feel normal when I think of it now, yes still over the top with emotions but Im not dull, The sad feeling is right for the thought of him, gives me a very human chill..( ya you bet I got tears from that lol.. (hmm Parnate making me human again? or more)
> Hang in there at 50, talk to you soonAh, Okay I'm gonna hang in there at 50mg. I hope I'm as strong as you when I reach the other side. This is my 3rd day on 50mg. Not getting the NE rush yet, but don't feel like COMPLETE he*l anymore either. A little scared for some reason, that it won't work? Or (this is the crazy part) that it will? No more pretending I'm safe in my room and nothing bad ever happens! I'll have to man-up (or woman-up as the case may be) God, I'm such a whimp. I kinda feel like I just wanna get hammered. Maybe I will one of these days, at least it will get me out of the house. And if I don't get some energy soon, maybe I'll just throw some stims in there too. Can you tell I'm tired of this? Can I tell your done hearin it? Yeah!!
Your friend sounds like he was a really awesome guy. I'm sure he felt lucky to have you for a best friend. Now you've got me tearing up. Bye for now.
~Jade
Posted by JadeKelly on December 10, 2008, at 11:28:48
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 6, 2008, at 17:45:14
Hey Coach,
You OK? I hope you are so happy that you haven't had a moment to spare. Leave me a one liner if you want but let me know you're alright, okay?
~Jade
Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 11, 2008, at 18:34:53
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » ParnateStarted2008, posted by JadeKelly on December 10, 2008, at 11:28:48
> Hey Coach,
>
> You OK? I hope you are so happy that you haven't had a moment to spare. Leave me a one liner if you want but let me know you're alright, okay?
>
> ~JadeHey, Ya, Im still here. Been away for 2 days.. Coach lol..
Any rush at 50mgs? I went up to 70 on dec 9th. I dont think I felt a rush.. I imagine the higher we go the less rush we'll get as the ratio gets smaller and smaller.*****How are you feeling?*******
Hope there is some change, I wish time could go faster during the moments of dispare waiting for an AD to kick in, or support that makes all the difference..I read from another post you can sleep like a breez (well sorta). sounds like u really get the afternoon nacolepsy! Me not so much.
I went to 70mgs because:
-Parnate was leveling out
-Anxiety started coming back(It still was working as an awesome AD!!! Im sure not depressed at all, good motivation)
-I really need the Antianxiety effect so ill keep going slowly from now on till I get it. I bet Ill be good at 70 or 80.Since the antianxiety effect was getting less and less at 60mg's, probably because another amine is kicking in strong, or because the anxiety creating amines that are alreaty working (eg. DA 4 me) are still kicking in stronger, or both factors, have led me to drink more and use more clonazepam.
yep for the last couple weeks Ive been drinking about 6 coolers a night, or 12 if I wanted to get drunk and in a mania (I still cant figure out why alcohol makes me so happily hypomanic and totally anxiety free like nothing else in the world. I do know its because Parnate is working. Without an AD that works well I dont get that way.)
The clonazepam i was using more of aswell, some nights 2mg's before bed.Good news is that today is a turning point. I have a new gym membership and im gonna go 6 days a week( I love working out). One of my best friends who drinks an insanly large amount moved two hours away so I wont be tempted to drink and when the antianxiety from 70 kicks in I wont want to drink. As long as it works im fine with a couple glasses of wine every few days.
I just wrote Vincent a big post on Parnate, I hope he is doing ok.
Melatonin eh... hmm I better try some. I hate sleeping. insomnia+vivid dreams and nightmares..
Every thing else is A ok. Very few side effects compared to the serotonin, Norepinephrine, Dopamine re-uptake inhibitor family type of AD's and Nardil.
OK I admit there is the same amount of side effects but I dont mind these ones nearly as much.
And Parnate is actually working so I dont care about the side effects. AHAHAH I think the illness has met its match. Lets see who wins!
Sincerely,
Coach Carter.
what?
Posted by JadeKelly on December 12, 2008, at 16:14:50
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 11, 2008, at 18:34:53
Hey Coach,
You WILL win the match. I'm gonna post you later cause my eyes are closing. Been feelin gooood, haha but it started almost a week after I upped to 50mg. Before it would start right away. Maybe a sign?
Btw-thanks for the mail. It was just right. Really.~Jade
Posted by JadeKelly on December 13, 2008, at 18:25:06
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 11, 2008, at 18:34:53
> > Hey Coach,
> >
> > You OK? I hope you are so happy that you haven't had a moment to spare. Leave me a one liner if you want but let me know you're alright, okay?
> >
> > ~Jade
>
> Hey, Ya, Im still here. Been away for 2 days.. Coach lol..
> Any rush at 50mgs? I went up to 70 on dec 9th. I dont think I felt a rush.. I imagine the higher we go the less rush we'll get as the ratio gets smaller and smaller.
>
> *****How are you feeling?*******
> Hope there is some change, I wish time could go faster during the moments of dispare waiting for an AD to kick in, or support that makes all the difference..
>
> I read from another post you can sleep like a breez (well sorta). sounds like u really get the afternoon nacolepsy! Me not so much.
>
> I went to 70mgs because:
> -Parnate was leveling out
> -Anxiety started coming back(It still was working as an awesome AD!!! Im sure not depressed at all, good motivation)
> -I really need the Antianxiety effect so ill keep going slowly from now on till I get it. I bet Ill be good at 70 or 80.
>
> Since the antianxiety effect was getting less and less at 60mg's, probably because another amine is kicking in strong, or because the anxiety creating amines that are alreaty working (eg. DA 4 me) are still kicking in stronger, or both factors, have led me to drink more and use more clonazepam.
> yep for the last couple weeks Ive been drinking about 6 coolers a night, or 12 if I wanted to get drunk and in a mania (I still cant figure out why alcohol makes me so happily hypomanic and totally anxiety free like nothing else in the world. I do know its because Parnate is working. Without an AD that works well I dont get that way.)
> The clonazepam i was using more of aswell, some nights 2mg's before bed.
>
> Good news is that today is a turning point. I have a new gym membership and im gonna go 6 days a week( I love working out). One of my best friends who drinks an insanly large amount moved two hours away so I wont be tempted to drink and when the antianxiety from 70 kicks in I wont want to drink. As long as it works im fine with a couple glasses of wine every few days.
>
> I just wrote Vincent a big post on Parnate, I hope he is doing ok.
> Melatonin eh... hmm I better try some. I hate sleeping. insomnia+vivid dreams and nightmares..
> Every thing else is A ok. Very few side effects compared to the serotonin, Norepinephrine, Dopamine re-uptake inhibitor family type of AD's and Nardil.
> OK I admit there is the same amount of side effects but I dont mind these ones nearly as much.
> And Parnate is actually working so I dont care about the side effects. AHAHAH I think the illness has met its match. Lets see who wins!
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Coach Carter.
> what?
Hi Coach Phil,I actually came on the board today to write you a post. The place was a desert. But I did see a post from d/r, and you to QC (is that right name?) Now feels like an invasion of your privacy, but I'm afraid its too late. I'd rather talk on babble mail right now but I think when blue light is off computer is off? I don't know. I think about you a lot. Too much probably, I don't know what the disorder is called (JK), but I tend to worry overboard about people I care about. And now you're on that list, you lucky guy!! My family has Bi-polarI in three generations (one in each) two are gone, within the last few years, my son is the 3rd. His manias are acute, lasting 48 hours or so if treated, they are extremely aggressive in nature, and frankly quite scary. He's been hospitalized 3 times. The good news is that it lasted about 9 months, every 3 weeks or so, (thank God nothing happened to him), and then stopped. We finally found the right meds for him. Hopefully they will keep working. If anyone reads this, he's on Seroqel, 300mg a day, and Depakote, 1500mg day. I'm pretty uncomfortable talking about some of my personal stuff, or my family stuff on the board. I just want you to know if you want to talk further about any of this I'd be happy to do it on babblemail. I don't use it with any one other that to give you and that_guy my first name. And that message to you of course. Remember, this is a setback, Phil, thats all. I hope you will keep your promise (well maybe not a promise) and stay and finish this job ahead of us to get well. Whatever that takes, right!?
>
> > *****How are you feeling?*******
> Hope there is some change, I wish time could go faster during the moments of dispare waiting for an AD to kick in, or support that makes all the difference..I'm feeling ok, some days better, some days, just a little better. Not worse, thats for sure. Whats killin me is this da*m fatigue! Do you get that on Parnate? I don't remember. It's not like the afternoon fatigue were always talking about, its all day don't wanna move fatigue. I've slept 12 hours straigt the last 2 nights and yesterday too lazy to refill klonopin, missed 4 doses, and STILL slept. Its infuriating. I used to be so different. This depression has sucked the life out of me. I want my life back, like NOW!! Parnate, my friend, hurry the he*l up! haha. My mood I think IS better, its just this fatigue, yeah, I'm thankful that my mood is better, but I still have that scared feeling cause I'm not working, I'm not doing anything except the absolute basics. I want ritalin. Does Lamictal (Doc swears I'm bipolar 2, I'm not) slow you down or give you energy? What other augments did you say gave energy, or were stimulating? can't take Provigil. Made me feel wired and nervous. Maybe I'll call PDoc and DEMAND ritalin. How well do you think that will go over? haha. He'll tell me to get lost, thats how. When you were talking about moments of despair, and waiting for support that makes all the difference, were you talking about me?, you? Both of us??!! When I feel despair, its usually either about losses, or the fear of not being my old self again. Like I won't be able to function. As far as waiting for support, my family tries, God knows weve all been thru alot, but none have had the kind of depression that I have. I think they are stronger, in the end. As I've said before, (this is my first depression) I just shut down. Numb. Its so strange to me. Especially cause I've always considered myself a strong girl. Were all close,(my large family) but sometimes that feels like a burden cause they want me to do things that I know will make NO DIFFERENCE until these chemicals get in order. I tried everything in the beginning. It just made the feeling of failure feel worse. Sounds like maybe you live alone? What I wouldn't give for that for just a while. Its torture living with people you love, always wondering what they think, afraid I'm bummin them out, they're always trying to get me to do stuff, etc. I really just want to be left alone to figure this out, and I think they see it as getting worse. Lets get her around some friends and family, then she'll be better. Truth be told? I get the real support here, from you and a couple other posters. One friend I talk to on line, she's at home too, so that really helps. And just all the posters that offer up their stuff and I know they understand the pain of what we all go thru. I've only been here two months, and have never talked to anyone on line before, so this is different for me. You know whats funny? I've been stalking this site (Babble) for a while, and got the courage one night to join when I was on my first Parnate high, haha. I don't believe I would have done it otherwise. I'm a scaredy cat. Not too big in the trust department.
Phil, I only brought up my son, cause I've seen the worst. And he is my heart and I love him so much. Don't be afraid to talk to me if you ever feel like it. I'm not a fairweather friend. So, I geuss this is a novel by now, I miss you, and I hope you are feeling better. Post when you can. When you feel like it I'd like my Parnate Coach back if you don't mind! I'd have been off this long ago if not for you. I thank you for that. If it doesn't work, at least I'll know I didn't quit too early and I can move on to the next. But I still believe in Parnate. Hope you do too.
~Jade
>
>
>
Posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2008, at 19:10:02
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » ParnateStarted2008, posted by JadeKelly on December 13, 2008, at 18:25:06
Jade his babblemail light is on click his name and viola screen appears write a message to coach. Love Phillipa
Posted by JadeKelly on December 13, 2008, at 19:53:02
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2008, at 19:10:02
> Jade his babblemail light is on click his name and viola screen appears write a message to coach. Love Phillipa
Phillipa, what are you talking about? If you look above you, you will see that I DID just leave a message/post. Why would I babblemail to a poster I just left a long post to????
~Jade
Posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2008, at 20:25:09
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!!, posted by JadeKelly on December 13, 2008, at 19:53:02
Just a suggestion as some don't know how babblemail works. Sorry guess you know. Phillipa
Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 16, 2008, at 20:16:40
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » ParnateStarted2008, posted by JadeKelly on December 13, 2008, at 18:25:06
Hi, Ya, I was gone there for a bit.. I now see from my previous post I was already talking about drinking and going manic. And your post about BiPolar and the rapid cycling(I just read today) was a tell tail sign I was heading into one. I guess it was Saturday and I had 6 coolers and quite a bit of baccardi and I went into a pretty severe mania. If I wasn t such a dumb *ss I wouldnt have drunk, but I did. Having anxiety all my life got me "addicted" to binge drinking on Antidepressants because I get so euphoric and social It's like im making up for all the lost time. Im smarter then to do it but I drunk alot anyway. I wont be doing it again i promise that.
Anyway I got home and I was so nuts, my thoughts were 1 billion miles an hour and I started getting dysphoric. In the madness I took 1000mg seroquel, 300mg or 500mg trazadone, 4mg Clonazepam, 8 zopiclone and a gravol. It was a carefully calculated mix to put me asleep for 2 days. Only in a mania does it seem logical, not anymore Ha.
Im at my parents place right now till newyears. My mom tried waking me and couln't and I was breathing very slow and very slow heart. so They took me to the hospital and Now Im back. It wasnt hard to convince everyone i wasnt suicidal. If I was I woulda took alot more and Parnate would of been a better choice.. SO Im out of my mania and normal.
Your last post was awesome, Thanks for that input.
Ill have to re reaad it in the morning so I can say some stuff,... I think you will get over the sedation. I was the same when I started Nardil... that may mean nothing, but its MAOI and it went away. I havent got any more results yet being at 70, soon tho. Glad ur on board still. If sittin around doing nothing until it does/doesnot work is what you gotta do, so be it eh.
I have confidence in this stuff.. because Ive read so many posts where people need doses way high, and way low. ANd it can take along time to work and settle.
Im very happy to hear that ive been supportive for you in the last while.. You have been a great supporter and friend too. Because of you Im taking this trial with you and me alot more serious before giving up.. its the best ive been so far... The results are coming, but what I really like so far is the side effect profile on me. I hope u get to a balance soon.. remember how bad my Nardil startup was? wow.. so I can imagine how tired u are... I know I still get jealous somewheat when I hear of people doing just great and no side effects..
Ill talk to u in the moning
adios
Posted by JadeKelly on December 16, 2008, at 21:02:05
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 16, 2008, at 20:16:40
Hey,
Appreciate all the help these last weeks. I read your post to Vincent (12/13). I think you do knowingly hurt people, and you are not quite ready to get well. I'm sure you're a great guy, you're just not the guy I thought you were. I really wish you the best. Please don't contact me again.
~J
Posted by Phillipa on December 16, 2008, at 21:24:12
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 16, 2008, at 20:16:40
I'm sorry you had a horrible time but sounds like it won't happen again. Your Mom must have been awfully scared for you. Well guess moral of story is you learned a lesson the hard way. Don't feel bad done the same learning lessons hard way myself. Best of Luck Phillipa
Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 16, 2008, at 23:27:40
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » ParnateStarted2008, posted by Phillipa on December 16, 2008, at 21:24:12
> I'm sorry you had a horrible time but sounds like it won't happen again. Your Mom must have been awfully scared for you. Well guess moral of story is you learned a lesson the hard way. Don't feel bad done the same learning lessons hard way myself. Best of Luck Phillipa
Hi Phillipa, yes it was the harder way... kind of stupid way. Im glad im not depressed or freaking out with anxiety because the stigma of od'ing on sleeping pills would probably get me so messed up inside id be institutionalized. SO I know the parnate is working ok for now.
chow
Posted by Phillipa on December 17, 2008, at 0:31:21
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » Phillipa, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 16, 2008, at 23:27:40
Parnate please don't do something like this again okay? You're On a powerful med with so many interractions I just don't want to see something happen bad to you. Do you have a plan how to avoid things like this in the future? Can you post on this board if ever tempted to do something like this again? I know that's asking a lot if you are under the influence or something but think how great you're responding to the med and how young you are and what a fantastic future you will have? I'd bet your Mom is looking forward to being a Grandmother one day to your future children even if it looks far away at the moment. I'm a Grandmother and can't believe how fast my grandkids grew up. So I really do care and if you thought back a while ago would have believed you could feel as good as you do now on your prescribed med. Can you follow the diet and your docs medical orders? Please do . Love Phillipa
Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 17, 2008, at 16:18:43
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » ParnateStarted2008, posted by Phillipa on December 17, 2008, at 0:31:21
> Parnate please don't do something like this again okay? You're On a powerful med with so many interractions I just don't want to see something happen bad to you. Do you have a plan how to avoid things like this in the future? Can you post on this board if ever tempted to do something like this again? I know that's asking a lot if you are under the influence or something but think how great you're responding to the med and how young you are and what a fantastic future you will have? I'd bet your Mom is looking forward to being a Grandmother one day to your future children even if it looks far away at the moment. I'm a Grandmother and can't believe how fast my grandkids grew up. So I really do care and if you thought back a while ago would have believed you could feel as good as you do now on your prescribed med. Can you follow the diet and your docs medical orders? Please do . Love Phillipa
hey, well Im lying here with my big white Perenese dog named Bella, she is a young giant. taking up all my bed.
I see what you mean.. a plan
ya
-No more Binge Drinking
If I think (ive always known) I know its that which is the culprit every time.
Me+AD+Drunk= Mania, euphoric can turn to dysphoric so quickly and when they do its ugly.. Im not violent or anything I just do crazy things like one time I jumped in my car and figured Id drive 1000kms and I took off driving through every red light until I finally hit a truck(the truck was ok, I was ok, my car was totaled).Thats nice to know you have grandchildren, My mom would love love it too. Im just about 24 so I have lots of time. Maybe now with Parnate I'll get councelling from a good psychologist and Ill be able to commit to a relationship. Rather then having these half relationships with girls I dont really like because they dont make me anxious. which is really mean to do. My friends are like why her.. I have the weirdest answers but it all comes down to because they dont make me anxious.
I better grow a pair of brass ones ha, and go for a girl who does make me anxious. I know Parnate wont work forever so Ill need good therapy.
And yes the diet I follow and Im strict with my meds. Im a lucky one who doesn't get all the crazy blood pressure problems from MAOI's, INSOMNIA!!!! ARRRRGG
Thanks
That was a heartwarming post from you.
ttysoon
Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 17, 2008, at 20:21:29
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » ParnateStarted2008, posted by JadeKelly on December 16, 2008, at 21:02:05
Jade, how are u doing?
any progress?
I gotta tell you I had some weird moments these last few weeks. Some days were real bad and i did nothing and felt depressed, most were ok. it was back and forth. the last couple days I cant sleep at all but im starting to think faster and funnier thoughts and today I shoveled snow for 2 hours..
Ill know in a few days if it has truely kicking in now.
and ya im couple weeks ahead of you.
hope to hear ya
later
Posted by JadeKelly on December 17, 2008, at 22:09:04
In reply to Re: Need advice! Nardil switch to Parnate!! » JadeKelly, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 17, 2008, at 20:21:29
> Jade, how are u doing?
> any progress?
> I gotta tell you I had some weird moments these last few weeks. Some days were real bad and i did nothing and felt depressed, most were ok. it was back and forth. the last couple days I cant sleep at all but im starting to think faster and funnier thoughts and today I shoveled snow for 2 hours..
> Ill know in a few days if it has truely kicking in now.
> and ya im couple weeks ahead of you.
> hope to hear ya
> laterHi Phil,
I'm doing fine thanks. Would like to talk to you about your post. Can you turn your babble-mail on if its off? you mailed me last night, but I think its off now.
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