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Seroquel/Prozac combo?

Posted by Sheilac on October 29, 2007, at 10:51:14

I am wondering what brain chemicals are effected by low dose prozac and seroquel?

I'm hoping to try prozac again - we'll see if it bothers my bladder. And also some seroquel at night to sleep. Right now I am not sleeping and I am very depressed.

I also think that maybe the seroquel would act as a mood stabilizer to the prozac?

 

Re: Seroquel/Prozac combo? » Sheilac

Posted by Phillipa on October 29, 2007, at 11:49:43

In reply to Seroquel/Prozac combo?, posted by Sheilac on October 29, 2007, at 10:51:14

Good possibility see my response to your thread above not incinuating you have interstitial bladder but a thought? Phillipa

 

Re: Seroquel/Prozac combo? » Sheilac

Posted by yxibow on October 30, 2007, at 11:43:51

In reply to Seroquel/Prozac combo?, posted by Sheilac on October 29, 2007, at 10:51:14

> I am wondering what brain chemicals are effected by low dose prozac and seroquel?
>
> I'm hoping to try prozac again - we'll see if it bothers my bladder. And also some seroquel at night to sleep. Right now I am not sleeping and I am very depressed.
>
> I also think that maybe the seroquel would act as a mood stabilizer to the prozac?

Prozac: reuptake of serotonin across multiple transmitters (5HTx)

Seroquel: antagonist / blockade of the following

5HT (serotonin) mainly at 5HT1A, 5HT2, D1 (dopamine) and D2, majorly at H1 (histamine) and a1 and a2 (adrenergic) as a byproduct responsible for its sleepymaking, minorly at 5HT3 as all antipsychotics (antiemetic)

 

Re: Seroquel/Prozac combo?

Posted by SheilaC on October 30, 2007, at 12:11:03

In reply to Re: Seroquel/Prozac combo? » Sheilac, posted by yxibow on October 30, 2007, at 11:43:51

> > I am wondering what brain chemicals are effected by low dose prozac and seroquel?
> >
> > I'm hoping to try prozac again - we'll see if it bothers my bladder. And also some seroquel at night to sleep. Right now I am not sleeping and I am very depressed.
> >
> > I also think that maybe the seroquel would act as a mood stabilizer to the prozac?
>
> Prozac: reuptake of serotonin across multiple transmitters (5HTx)
>
> Seroquel: antagonist / blockade of the following
>
> 5HT (serotonin) mainly at 5HT1A, 5HT2, D1 (dopamine) and D2, majorly at H1 (histamine) and a1 and a2 (adrenergic) as a byproduct responsible for its sleepymaking, minorly at 5HT3 as all antipsychotics (antiemetic)
>


So does Prozac and Seroquel counter each other? 50mg. of Seroquel really helps me sleep and I can get by on only 10mg. of Prozac.

 

Re: Seroquel/Prozac combo? » Sheilac

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2007, at 12:36:07

In reply to Seroquel/Prozac combo?, posted by Sheilac on October 29, 2007, at 10:51:14

> I am wondering what brain chemicals are effected by low dose prozac and seroquel?
>
> I'm hoping to try prozac again - we'll see if it bothers my bladder. And also some seroquel at night to sleep. Right now I am not sleeping and I am very depressed.
>
> I also think that maybe the seroquel would act as a mood stabilizer to the prozac?

Well, the combination is believed to be sufficiently complementary, that it is marketed as Symbyax. See:http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/symbyax.htm

What I don't like about Symbyax is that the proportions of the relevent meds are fixed. You have far greater flexibility if you titrate each drug separately.

Lar

 

Re: Seroquel/Prozac combo? » Larry Hoover

Posted by yxibow on October 31, 2007, at 0:16:21

In reply to Re: Seroquel/Prozac combo? » Sheilac, posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2007, at 12:36:07

> > I am wondering what brain chemicals are effected by low dose prozac and seroquel?
> >
> > I'm hoping to try prozac again - we'll see if it bothers my bladder. And also some seroquel at night to sleep. Right now I am not sleeping and I am very depressed.
> >
> > I also think that maybe the seroquel would act as a mood stabilizer to the prozac?
>
> Well, the combination is believed to be sufficiently complementary, that it is marketed as Symbyax. See:http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/symbyax.htm
>
> What I don't like about Symbyax is that the proportions of the relevent meds are fixed. You have far greater flexibility if you titrate each drug separately.
>
> Lar

Exactly. It leaves much to be desired.

Yes, they're complementary, especially in treatment resistant OCD, e.g. Not without their own side effects of course -- polypharmacy should ideally be done by someone who knows how to combine medications effectively

 

Re: Seroquel/Prozac combo? » SheilaC

Posted by Astounder on October 31, 2007, at 17:32:54

In reply to Re: Seroquel/Prozac combo?, posted by SheilaC on October 30, 2007, at 12:11:03

> > > I am wondering what brain chemicals are effected by low dose prozac and seroquel?
> > >
> > > I'm hoping to try prozac again - we'll see if it bothers my bladder. And also some seroquel at night to sleep. Right now I am not sleeping and I am very depressed.
> > >
> > > I also think that maybe the seroquel would act as a mood stabilizer to the prozac?
> >
> > Prozac: reuptake of serotonin across multiple transmitters (5HTx)
> >
> > Seroquel: antagonist / blockade of the following
> >
> > 5HT (serotonin) mainly at 5HT1A, 5HT2, D1 (dopamine) and D2, majorly at H1 (histamine) and a1 and a2 (adrenergic) as a byproduct responsible for its sleepymaking, minorly at 5HT3 as all antipsychotics (antiemetic)
> >
>
>
> So does Prozac and Seroquel counter each other? 50mg. of Seroquel really helps me sleep and I can get by on only 10mg. of Prozac.
>


They don't counter each other. At that dose, it's only going to be acting as a sedative (H1 blocking, alpha1 blocking). The alpha2 blocking could have adjunctive antidepressant effects by disinhibiting serotonergic neurons, but Seroquel's 6 hr half-life means it won't be around in the daytime. The only other thing it does at that dose is block 5-HT6, which is anxiolytic in animal models and might help you get to bed easier.


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