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Posted by winddancer on February 4, 2005, at 0:22:47
In reply to Reply to Windancer, posted by Troubled1 on February 3, 2005, at 18:17:11
Ok, I'll keep you informed. I just saw my med doctor and will begin decreasing the Effexor from 150 to 75 + 37.5. Plan to stay there for 2 weeks. After 2 visits with the acupuncturist, I sleep more restfully but still wake up after 2 hours - several times a night. I will be brewing the tea that I got in Chinatown this afternoon. It is supposed to be specific for insomnia. My Acupuncturist believes that by addressing the insomnia first, it can give me some relief from the other symptoms. Thanks for your interest. I just heard of taking lots of fish oil (Omega-3) helping with menopausal hot flashes. So I'll make sure that I'm not missing my Omega-3 supplements.
Posted by not2late4u on February 4, 2005, at 2:43:53
In reply to Day 2 of lower dose of Effexor, posted by Troubled1 on February 3, 2005, at 18:25:49
karen, I suggest staying at that dose until you feel as though the withdraw symptoms you are already feeling have subsided or leveled out. Thats what I have done, but I went down on my dose alot slower. Best advise I can give is to listen to your body, let it tell you when its ready. good luck and remember, its not a race so pace yourself. Please let up know how you are doing. Renee
Posted by Racing Heart on February 4, 2005, at 7:38:51
In reply to Re: Day 2 of lower dose of Effexor » Troubled1, posted by not2late4u on February 4, 2005, at 2:43:53
Today I opened the capsule and dropped half in my coffee. I hope this is okay. I am the person who went in for mild PMS---came home with Effexor and now have about and extra 15 pounds in 2 months time. I am only on 37.5 mg so please pray that I do okay with stopping this. I have an important interview on Tuesday---yikes not a good thing to stop I guess, but I have to start this!
Posted by S. Bartel on February 4, 2005, at 12:50:40
In reply to HAS ANYONE TAKEN EFFEXOR FOR SOCIAL ANXIETY?, posted by DNINA on February 3, 2005, at 11:56:03
I never had anxiety before taking effexor, but did develope it after taking effexor. I have been off effexor for 3 months and I still have anxiety.
I only hope in time it will go away, but so far it doesn't seem that it is going to.
Posted by Troubled1 on February 4, 2005, at 13:34:34
In reply to Re: Day 2 of lower dose of Effexor, posted by Racing Heart on February 4, 2005, at 7:38:51
I can't see any problem with taking the meds in coffee but I'm no expert. May be better to put into something w/o caffeine (like plain water). As far as weight gain goes; initially after going on Effexor I lost 30 lbs without trying and people were telling me I looked sick as I am normally tall and thin. I felt good though. I attributed the loss to the fact that the horrible sugar cravings I had with depression were gone so I wasn't eating the junk. Unfortunately, that didn't last and a couple of months later, the cravings were back and I was eating tons of chocolate, ice cream, etc. I put all the weight back on and a bit more. I recently decided to take some of it back off so for the last 2 weeks, I have made a real effort to eat more wisely. I still nibble on junk if it's around but don't eat the whole thing. I have already lost 7 lbs and am feeling much better about myself. You need to look at whether your eating habits have changed with the meds or if it's purely the meds. If it is the meds, discuss with your doctor and perhaps try a different drug or a natural one (ask your pharmacist) instead. Good luck.
Karen
Posted by S. Bartel on February 4, 2005, at 13:50:13
In reply to Reply to Racing Heart, posted by Troubled1 on February 4, 2005, at 13:34:34
My doctor said to mix them with orange juice, but I don't see why you couldn't mix it with any other liquid.
Sammi
Posted by Doc on February 4, 2005, at 16:17:43
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
I've just been put on Effexor XR for the second time. Both times by different physicians. I've only taken two doses of 75mg, each this last time. That's what the doctor started me on. But, I already have that same old feeling from taking it earlier and for a longer period of time. I feel exhausted and have terrible sweats all the time. I feel that I'm prespiring and feel chilled at the same time. When I took Effexor XR earlier I was hopitialized on two different occasions with complaints of chronic exhaustion. Nothing was found either time. I took Effexor XR, the first time for almost a year and I can't say it helped the depression.
Posted by Phillipa on February 4, 2005, at 16:47:46
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Doc on February 4, 2005, at 16:17:43
Sammi; What do you take for the anxiety, and does it help you? I remember a few years they tried me on effexor and I got up to 37.5mg and stopped it because of the side effects causing me to feel like a "space cadet". Now I don't "feel" anything from all the Ad's they put me on. It seems like nothing works. Maybe my digestion is disturbed? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Racing Heart on February 4, 2005, at 17:01:14
In reply to Day 2 of lower dose of Effexor, posted by Troubled1 on February 3, 2005, at 18:25:49
Karen, Good luck to you. I am stopping from only 37.5 mg a day only 2 1/2 months. Today I took 1/2 of my capsule, tomorrow nothing. BEST OF LUCK TO YOU. I feel just fine, hope all goes well tomorrow.
Posted by jubilee on February 4, 2005, at 19:07:49
In reply to Re: Day 2 of lower dose of Effexor, posted by Racing Heart on February 4, 2005, at 17:01:14
I took 5 months to come down and it really got bad going under 37.5 . I dont know how sick you have been but I wish you the best. Jubilee
Posted by jubilee on February 4, 2005, at 19:15:22
In reply to Re: HAS ANYONE TAKEN EFFEXOR FOR SOCIAL ANXIETY? » DNINA, posted by S. Bartel on February 4, 2005, at 12:50:40
Hi Sammi,
Effexor causes anxiety, agitation, and hypermania , all of which hell changed my life and I lived with for 4 years. These were side affects I read on the internet admitted by the company.Inderal helps also for those with racing heart and is given for panic attacks, Its a heart med.
I am so much calmer and month off effexor my whole life has changed, and people are noticing. What a relieve.
They actually give effexor for anxioty , what a joke but I guess it helps some . Sure not worth it.
For nubies I suggest going as slow as possible as I went 5 months and down to pebbles . Call me a chicken , but it was available for me. I thank God for providing and also prozak helps the withdrawals. Jubilee
Posted by S. Bartel on February 4, 2005, at 19:26:18
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Phillipa on February 4, 2005, at 16:47:46
I'm not taking anything for it. I never had it befor effexor and I'm hoping it will go away. I got liver disease from effexor and now I'm afraid to take anything 'cause most drugs affect your liver. I'm eating totally different and healthier which for some reason seems to help. I don't eat any junk food or sweets and no fat. Gave up red meat, pork and dairy products except for skim milk on my Wheaties. The only meat I eat is chicken or turkey, white meat only and fish. I take omega 3 and drink a lot of green, chamomille, ginseng, and mint tea. I'm going for the natural cures. So far I'm able to handle the anxiety. When it comes on I meditate to relax and anything else that relaxes me and takes my mind off it. That's about it. I also lost 25 lbs. in the first two months after I quit effexor. Another 10 lbs and I'll be where I was befor I started taking it. I wasn't trying to lose it. The effexor made me gain no matter how little I ate and just stopping it made it all come off. Now I can eat and not worry about gaining. I'm hoping to stay medicine free.
Sammi
Posted by Troubled1 on February 4, 2005, at 23:19:06
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
Hope I'm not boring everyone with my daily updates but it seems that a lot of members are concerned with withdrawal side effects. It is now after midnight following day 3 at 75 mg. I feel better today than yesterday i.e. less dizzy/nauseous. I find that as long as I get lots of sleep and keep filling food in my stomach (bread products),I feel pretty good. I think I'll do one more day on 75 mg (provided I still feel good tomorrow), then start going even lower. Knowing my own body, I have a feeling that if I'm going to get sicker than I was yesterday, it'll be after the Effexor is completely out of my system. I swear that I can feel a difference for the better already i.e. didn't feel as drowsy today. Managed to get some housework done. Will keep up my daily updates in the hope that someone finds them helpful.
Karen
Posted by not2late4u on February 4, 2005, at 23:19:40
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? » Phillipa, posted by S. Bartel on February 4, 2005, at 19:26:18
sammi, sorry to bust in on your post, but thought I'd say it sounds like you are doing well and have such a great natural path you are following. Im happy for you. Keep up the good healthy work, Im sure it'll keep paying off for you. Are you getting enough vit b, magnesium, potasium and gaba? These are things that I know of that are for relaxing. ( I know there are herbs, such as hops, kava, valerium) but I know their effects on the liver. God Bless, Renee
Posted by not2late4u on February 4, 2005, at 23:20:43
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by not2late4u on February 4, 2005, at 23:19:40
sammi, ooops I mean I dont know the effects on the liver for the herbs I mentioned....renee
Posted by not2late4u on February 4, 2005, at 23:30:49
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Doc on February 4, 2005, at 16:17:43
my doc started me out on 37.5 I dont know why you would be started out at 75mg. sounds like its too much to fast or just simply not the right med for you. I'd seek help.
Posted by S. Bartel on February 5, 2005, at 13:01:37
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by not2late4u on February 4, 2005, at 23:20:43
Yes I have learned to eat lots of potasium. When I don't I have terrible leg cramps.
Thanks, Sammi
Posted by rainy on February 5, 2005, at 15:43:22
In reply to My Success Story and Bad Decision...long (heh), posted by hez on December 20, 2004, at 14:33:52
Help--I'm a klutz in Effexorville! I want to know if anybody on the board who's taken Serzone or nefazodone Hcl has experienced any muscle pain or spasm that they connect with the medication. I've got a really bad spasm in my back and shoulder that's consistent with starting nefazodone Hcl about 6 weeks ago. It's also where I often hold tension, so there are all sorts of factors at work here. I don't want to stop taking the AD if the muscle "stiffness" seems like a really far out possible adverse effect. It's one of the few that hasn't made me gain about 25 immediate pounds. One the other side--I'm hurting bad.
rainy
Posted by winddancer on February 5, 2005, at 17:57:14
In reply to trying to start a new thread about nefazodone hcl, posted by rainy on February 5, 2005, at 15:43:22
Hey Rainy, (sorry this is so long)
I took Serzone successfully for about 8-9 years straight - I could not identify any side effects unless it was a little dry mouth. But did not notice the muscle ache until now that I'm on Effexor. Last spring my doctor insisted that I switch to a different Ad when Serzone was pulled from the market. (I had tried to quit Serzone cold turkey just before that and freaked out, so I got back on the drug, then some major life stressors happened and I was terribly depressed-suicidal, when my doctor was adding another AD to the serzone and discovering it was banned) So I had to deal with switching to something else (remeron)and then added other drugs(neurontin and Xanax). That clinic closed up and I had to find another doctor, who then added Effexor to the Remeron,Neurontin, and Xanax. What a zombie I was, but somehow began to feel better. I opened my self up to several alternative therapies that were supposed to cure depression: Reiki, NET, herbs Taurine and another. Finally things began to shift and I eventually gradually stopped everything but the Effexor. That's when I became more aware of all these side-effects that I had had, but figured were from so many drugs. Now I only take the Effexor (and Lisinopril for the HBP the Effexor caused) I don't sleep well at all, I feel a little jazzed all the time - can't settle down, get headaches, backaches, carple-tunnel, neck and back aches and sweats, food tastes bland,no energy, and weight gain. I finally started to explore whether the drug is causing all this and stumbled onto this chat room. I'm now working with an acupuncturist, a Heller-worker, chinese herbs and nutrition evaluation. I'm also beginning to decrease the Effexor from 150mg to 112.5 for 2 weeks. I'm 'trying' to stay away from sugar, white flour, and add salmon oil and flax oil capsules to my daily routine. I don't sleep well and I don't poop, even with Smooth move tea, prunes, fibercon, lots of fruit, lots of walking. I guess it's back to the pharmacy for something serious for constipation. At least I don't feel depressed. I just started a new awesome job. I hope I can get off all drugs too and use only natural therapies and remedies and more exercise, maybe Yoga or Tai-che. Thanks for your info. (you are not in the 'rainy' NW, are you??)
Winddancer
Posted by sabre on February 5, 2005, at 18:40:44
In reply to trying to start a new thread about nefazodone hcl, posted by rainy on February 5, 2005, at 15:43:22
Hello rainy
I took Serzone for six months and was taken off it when it was removed from the market.I didn't notice any muscle tension while taking it, in fact I think it improved it.
I didn't enjoy the amotivation and apathy it induced. It also made me forget words, people's names and made me struggle with reading comprehension (I was studying). It helped with depression but did little for social anxiety.
People seem to have such varied reactions to drugs, however, and I think the only way to find out is to give it a decent trial and see what you think.
I hope it does work for you!
Good luck.
sabre
Posted by corafree on February 5, 2005, at 18:42:42
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? » Phillipa, posted by S. Bartel on February 4, 2005, at 19:26:18
Most may know I'm on Eff-XR, just cannot afford and don't have enough on-hand support, to give it a try yet. But in your trials of reduction, you all have brought up a lot of good things to help your body through missing it's Effexor.
Has anyone seen R_______? that is to 'reduce cortisol'...about $35.00...bottle called R_______? Well, it's got a lot of brain/energy vites, B, mag, herbs, etc. This is ridiculous. I don't know the name of what I'm talking about. I saw at Wal-Mart. You look at it and think it's another weight loss deal, but in reading ingredients, there were a lot of those mentioned here by people titrating off Eff-XR. Anybody know what I'm talking about (duh)?
I feel better thanks to help rec'd on other board here w/ 1st anniversary of Dad's death. I posted last on Faith Board! I've missed being here. cf
Posted by Troubled1 on February 5, 2005, at 20:47:18
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
Okay, here I am at 9:45 pm (EST)on day 4 at 75 mg. Still doing well. Frankly, I'm surprised to have so few negative effects after being on 225 mg for almost 2 years now. Will try reducing a bit more tomorrow. Will likely only post future updates if my condition changes after lowering but will still follow postings and be here for support of others. Take care all.
Karen
Posted by tatarka on February 5, 2005, at 23:33:44
In reply to Day 4 on reduced Effexor, posted by Troubled1 on February 5, 2005, at 20:47:18
Thank you for your postings, Karen!
> Okay, here I am at 9:45 pm (EST)on day 4 at 75 mg. Still doing well. Frankly, I'm surprised to have so few negative effects after being on 225 mg for almost 2 years now. Will try reducing a bit more tomorrow. Will likely only post future updates if my condition changes after lowering but will still follow postings and be here for support of others. Take care all.
>
> Karen
Posted by raster on February 7, 2005, at 15:40:17
In reply to Re: Day 4 on reduced Effexor » Troubled1, posted by tatarka on February 5, 2005, at 23:33:44
I just found this board, so I'm playing instant catch up.
My story:
I was on 2 x 75's of Effexor for 2 years of therapy and over the last 9 months I have reduced my dose to down 1 x 37.5 capsule until 2 weeks ago.
I must say that Effexor did work in the way it had been sold: it reduced stress and anxiety I suffered - from my job. But I began to suffer terrible side effects like nightmares (killing my daughter/others; escaping from other unknown killers for my own life; end of world; brutal, bloody, horrible, and grotesque violence of every kind on the human body; and other dreams not even worth mentioning). Needless to say, these side effects were mentioned to my doctor and my wife. My doctor was supportive and sympathetic. My wife was also supportive and sympathetic but also worried. There were times I was afraid to go to sleep because of the consecutive nights of absolutely terrifying dreams. Other side effects were nervous stomach, fluttery heartbeat and not caring about something important - when I should have had better judgement.
Generally speaking I was satisfied with the drug's control of my anxiety, but wanted to end this method of therapy because of the side effects. I remember saying to my wife many times how I couldn't go on taking the drug for the rest of my life because I didn't feel like I was in control but the drug was. I felt held hostage. Missing a couple of doses soon brought on the hair raising side effects.On January 27, 2005 I took the last pill. OH YEA!
But here come the side effects: Passing out while talking to clients on the phone (yet still talking..yikes!); passing out while driving (and waking up in your lane a few hundred feet later); NIGHTMARES!!!!!! (some so scary - I can understand why the kids didn't want to go to sleep in the Freddie Kruger movies); RINGING in the ears with STRONG cranial buzzing rushes; Fluttery heartbeat; Chest pains in my sleep strong enough to wake me up 3 times on one night and two on another - frightening the crap out of me - heart attack/angina?; WORRY - about what? nothing, but the feeling is strong and there is no reason; a rush of anxiety a few times a day;trembling and finally ANGER - call it what you want - but somedays it takes alot not to burst out and yell at anyone including the wife and kids -and they haven't done anything wrong at all!
It has been no picnic to say the least so far. In fact, I nodded off during another 10 minute strong sleepy side effect while typing this message - REALLY! I can only hope that in a few more weeks I'll feel better. There are a few more observations, but I've written enough for now.
Does any of this sound familiar?
Raster
Posted by nhwraith on February 7, 2005, at 20:06:12
In reply to I'm so glad I finally did this!, posted by Melinda on April 27, 2000, at 14:02:39
I have been on effexor xr 150 for about 3 mos and havnt really experienced any side effects other than my hands get tingly numb sometimes, but goes away and comes again. But this drug has helped me alot with my depression,i am not sure how long i will stay on it but for now it has worked great for me.
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