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Posted by mmcconathy on January 6, 2005, at 20:58:55
I cannot control my life, its getting to the point i just cannot take this, there is so much demand and obligation, that shot out of NO hwere, i have taken serious mental blows,
My dad is a complete narcissmist, tells me im nothing, im weak that i have to have mental help and says he;s obligated to keep me.
Collage is coming, i never fit in in high school, dissociative symptoms are arising and im trying to stay in one piece.
Im on Klonopin 2mg, and going on Respirdal 1mg, and have been on Dexedrine 45 for years.
Listen i need some serious advice
Please are there any medications that can help during this time?
Nardil?
Panarate
Prozax/ Paxil
Nembutal?
I dont know, just tell me something, before i commit myself.
Matt
Posted by ace on January 6, 2005, at 20:59:42
In reply to I am seriously losing it, posted by mmcconathy on January 6, 2005, at 20:58:55
> I cannot control my life, its getting to the point i just cannot take this, there is so much demand and obligation, that shot out of NO hwere, i have taken serious mental blows,
>
> My dad is a complete narcissmist, tells me im nothing, im weak that i have to have mental help and says he;s obligated to keep me.
>
> Collage is coming, i never fit in in high school, dissociative symptoms are arising and im trying to stay in one piece.
>
> Im on Klonopin 2mg, and going on Respirdal 1mg, and have been on Dexedrine 45 for years.
>
> Listen i need some serious advice
>
> Please are there any medications that can help during this time?
>
> Nardil?
>
> Panarate
>
> Prozax/ Paxil
>
> Nembutal?
>
> I dont know, just tell me something, before i commit myself.
>
> Matt
GO WITH THE NARDIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ACE
Posted by linkadge on January 6, 2005, at 21:21:49
In reply to Re: I am seriously losing it » mmcconathy, posted by ace on January 6, 2005, at 20:59:42
I would book a few sessions with a counseller.
Last minaute med changes are not always beneficial. Sometimes they can backfire.
If you do make a change, then make it slowly.It is unfortunate that your father feels this way. Believe it or not, the most mentally healthy people are the ones who accept mental illness with the greatest ease. Those who have shadow syndromes of certain neurological disorders try and sweep them under the carpet as if they don't exist.
Telling your father this may not help however :)
Linkadge
Posted by Maxime on January 6, 2005, at 21:25:46
In reply to I am seriously losing it, posted by mmcconathy on January 6, 2005, at 20:58:55
I think you need to be in the hospital. You don't even have a diagnosis yet. You would feel a lot les stress and they could monitor how you react to the different drugs.
You are not nothing! You are not weak! You are suffering from an illness and you have shown great strength in lasting this long.
But really, dissociate systems are not good. Look after yourself and screw what your father says. My mother is the same way but I know what is best. Let's face it, you are in no state to start college.
Also, I hate to say this but you are the age where schizophrenia would manifest itself.
You are not alone. You have us here but I think it's time to go to the ER.
What do you think about trying that?
Maxime
> I cannot control my life, its getting to the point i just cannot take this, there is so much demand and obligation, that shot out of NO hwere, i have taken serious mental blows,
>
> My dad is a complete narcissmist, tells me im nothing, im weak that i have to have mental help and says he;s obligated to keep me.
>
> Collage is coming, i never fit in in high school, dissociative symptoms are arising and im trying to stay in one piece.
>
> Im on Klonopin 2mg, and going on Respirdal 1mg, and have been on Dexedrine 45 for years.
>
> Listen i need some serious advice
>
> Please are there any medications that can help during this time?
>
> Nardil?
>
> Panarate
>
> Prozax/ Paxil
>
> Nembutal?
>
> I dont know, just tell me something, before i commit myself.
>
> Matt
Posted by anneL on January 6, 2005, at 23:46:49
In reply to I am seriously losing it, posted by mmcconathy on January 6, 2005, at 20:58:55
Dear Matt,
Sometimes the best thing we can do for ourselves is to let go of trying to keep everything under control. Going to hospital is not a sign of weakness or that you have given up, it simply is a safe place away from all the stressors of family life and get you back on your feet again.
It is very possible that your father says mean things because he is frightened and feels helpless to watch his son suffer. If you feel like you need a safe harbor in order to get your meds adjusted, simply walk into any ER. It need not be a drama, just walk in.
Posted by mmcconathy on January 7, 2005, at 19:28:15
In reply to Re: I am seriously losing it » mmcconathy, posted by anneL on January 6, 2005, at 23:46:49
Ok, well im 17 so i have no idea really how to commit myself exept from a psychiatrist.
What is exactly commiting yourself, walking into an ER?
Do i just run in there like a maniac, and get shot with a tranquilizer gun?
Will i be locked up, i dont know if im nuerosis or psychosis, but all im afraid of is im going to go psychosis.
Please some advice?
Posted by ed_uk on January 7, 2005, at 19:44:47
In reply to Re: I am seriously losing it, posted by mmcconathy on January 7, 2005, at 19:28:15
Hello Matt!
>well im 17..
There are a lot of young people on babble. I guess we're the internet generation. I'm 20 btw.
>What is exactly commiting yourself?
It means to be taken on to a psych ward. In England, people use the word 'committed' to mean that someone is not a voluntary patient ie. they are detained against their will- I'm not sure whether it means the same thing in Texas. Anyway, if you ask to be admitted to a psych ward, you wouldn't be forced to do anything. Do you go to a psychiatrist? If you do, ring him/her tomorrow and say that you're ill. If you feel that you need to be admitted to hospital then say so. If not, ask to see your pdoc asap.
You will not be locked up unless you are a serious danger to yourself or others. I think that it is *extremely* unlikely that you'd be locked up.
Best Wishes,
Ed.PS. Please tell us what you decide to do. What are your symptoms at the moment?
Posted by Maxime on January 7, 2005, at 20:23:35
In reply to Re: I am seriously losing it, posted by mmcconathy on January 7, 2005, at 19:28:15
I feel so awful that you are going through this alone because I HAD to do the same thing. No family support.
You will go to the hospital and tell the triage nurse exactly all the symptoms you have been going through. I would make sure to mention any dissociation you have going on. She or he will ask you if you are suicidal and answer truthfully. Then you will go to where the beds are in the ER. A psychiatrist will come and talk to you and then leave to discuss you case with the psychiatrists on the ward. In the meantime, a social worker will probably come and talk to you. The psyhiatrist will come back and tell you what decision has been made. I would say that they will want to observe you for 48 hours. You go to the psych ward and have to wear silly pyjamas! You are not going to be locked anywhere. In fact they will want to see you deal in your environment. There are groups during the day but sometimes if someone is really not well, disociating or hallucinating you won't go to the groups. You will have some free time but you will probably have to talk to another psychiatrist.
I have to take myself a couple of time. And you know what? It's such a relief. It's like a weight has been lifted off your shoulders. And you meet other patients who are usually really nice. Some people looked spaced out because they are on too many meds. Then there can be manic patients who talk a lot and are really busy all the time. The nurses are available to talk with if you need to.
Overall you will get all the support you need right now. AND you will find a med cocktail that will help you.
I hope you decide to go. I would go with you if I lived near you.
Hang in there okay? But the ER is the best place for you to go now.
Let us know what you decide.
Maxime
> Ok, well im 17 so i have no idea really how to commit myself exept from a psychiatrist.
>
> What is exactly commiting yourself, walking into an ER?
>
> Do i just run in there like a maniac, and get shot with a tranquilizer gun?
>
> Will i be locked up, i dont know if im nuerosis or psychosis, but all im afraid of is im going to go psychosis.
>
> Please some advice?
>
>
Posted by celticmom on January 7, 2005, at 21:48:55
In reply to I am seriously losing it, posted by mmcconathy on January 6, 2005, at 20:58:55
Sweetie, you need to get some help. You may just be going through normal teenage/hormonal angst mixed with the fact that your father is an *ss. Regardless if you feel like you are "losing" it, you need to talk to someone. Go to the school counselor or a teacher you trust. Are there any close family members you can confide in? What about friends, you may be surprised at how many have similar feelings.
If you are seriously to the point where you "can't take it" anymore or are thinking of hurting yourself, then run, do not walk to an ER.
I remember feeling like things were very overwhelming when I was your age. If you have other factors compounding these feelings, it would only be more intensified . Regardless, you need to talk to someone. Talking ALWAYS helps. Please take care of yourself and know that it WILL get better.
Posted by mmcconathy on January 8, 2005, at 2:10:07
In reply to Re: I am seriously losing it, posted by celticmom on January 7, 2005, at 21:48:55
Whole problems that branched into all these dissociative crap, emotional breakdowns was communication promlems.
When i talk about this, i cant talk directly to a person without breaking down becuase the impact is to much,
I just never had any friends, going to school is hell because i have no support to go to, girls think im socially awkward and make smirks im gay, i just cant handle all this.......... , i have breakdowns and just scream who am I,
I cant even start on how many breakdowns and rages i have becuase i have no one tells me im normal. Tony will surface and get on my feet, and gives me strength, Ritchie tells me i'm doing ok and I am normal, puts me together. Ritchie around more.
But all this stuff is in my head to just help me cope, instead of drugs, and alcohol.
That would be nice to visit ot just get away for a while at a ward, but i dont wnat to even imagine what my dad would say to me if i did, he asks me why are so f*ck up, "what are you a male queer you fagget", go to your Xanax, and get out of my sight.
Tony usally will appear and start fights, usally tells him his a loser, couldnt manage all 4 wives he's had, go pick up some hookers, and he'll gladly make the appointments.
I have to make up for alot of this commotion, and tell him that im sorry, and he's the best for him to compromise.
He's a successful lawyer, very appealing from outside, but he;s horrible dad.
I pray to Christ muchly now, and i've learned he does make things happen.
One day i know i will be strong.
But for now, medication is the only thing that keeps me in one piece.
Thank you for your concern
Matt
Posted by Donna Louise on January 8, 2005, at 5:53:23
In reply to Re: I am seriously losing it, posted by mmcconathy on January 7, 2005, at 19:28:15
> Ok, well im 17 so i have no idea really how to commit myself exept from a psychiatrist.
>
> What is exactly commiting yourself, walking into an ER?
>
> Do i just run in there like a maniac, and get shot with a tranquilizer gun?
>
> Will i be locked up, i dont know if im nuerosis or psychosis, but all im afraid of is im going to go psychosis.
>
> Please some advice?
>
>Matt,bless your heart, you have made me laugh, I picture you running in like a maniac and all the little orderlies chasing you with tranquilizer guns.. I am really getting a kick out of that vision. I want to say that you have a great sense of humor that is apparantly still intact which gives me great hope for you. 17 is a rough age for anyone, I had to get high as a kite to cope with it. Just wanted to let you know you aren't alone and also very funny.
Donna
Posted by Camille Dumont on January 8, 2005, at 11:36:49
In reply to Re: I am seriously losing it, posted by mmcconathy on January 7, 2005, at 19:28:15
> Ok, well im 17 so i have no idea really how to commit myself exept from a psychiatrist.
>
> What is exactly commiting yourself, walking into an ER?
>
> Do i just run in there like a maniac, and get shot with a tranquilizer gun?
>
> Will i be locked up, i dont know if im nuerosis or psychosis, but all im afraid of is im going to go psychosis.
>
> Please some advice?
>
>The best thing you can do is go to the ER and ask to see a doctor. When they ask you why, tell them you are feeling suicidal and really not safe.
You will see a doctor, he will give you a reference to see a psychiatrist or might send you to see one right away.
You want to avoid the whole "manic" routine. If you go in of your own will, you will be voluntary patient which means you will have a much better say in what happens to you afterwards and will be able to get out whenever you want.
You definately do not want to get shot with something like Haldol ... better do everything calmly and besides, that way you can make sure the doctor understans how you really feel. The better he understands whats going on with you, the more he will be able to help.
I know its scary but in then end you will probably be glad you did it.
Posted by ixus on January 8, 2005, at 11:43:33
In reply to I am seriously losing it, posted by mmcconathy on January 6, 2005, at 20:58:55
Just normal,
Klonopin + Respirdal + Dexedrine could be a very depressive combo.
Wean Dexedrine and go with Parnate. It has a strong antidepressive properties + stimulating effects. Nardil should aslo be OK.
> I cannot control my life, its getting to the point i just cannot take this, there is so much demand and obligation, that shot out of NO hwere, i have taken serious mental blows,
>
> My dad is a complete narcissmist, tells me im nothing, im weak that i have to have mental help and says he;s obligated to keep me.
>
> Collage is coming, i never fit in in high school, dissociative symptoms are arising and im trying to stay in one piece.
>
> Im on Klonopin 2mg, and going on Respirdal 1mg, and have been on Dexedrine 45 for years.
>
> Listen i need some serious advice
>
> Please are there any medications that can help during this time?
>
> Nardil?
>
> Panarate
>
> Prozax/ Paxil
>
> Nembutal?
>
> I dont know, just tell me something, before i commit myself.
>
> Matt
Posted by ed_uk on January 8, 2005, at 21:01:50
In reply to Re: pray for hope, posted by mmcconathy on January 8, 2005, at 2:10:07
Hi Matt,
>i cant talk directly to a person without breaking down becuase the impact is to much..
I think you might benefit from seeing a therapist in addition to your pdoc. You need someone who is a good listener, someone who is not judgemental and someone who will not be surprised if you get upset.
>girls think im socially awkward ...
You seem to suffer from a lot of social anxiety. You are in the right place, many people on p-babble have suffered from social anxiety, myself included. I think you should ask your pdoc about trying Nardil, it can be very effective for SA.
>I cant even start on how many breakdowns and rages i have becuase i have no one tells me im normal.
I don't really know what normal is, I don't think anyone does, I don't think there is even such as thing as being normal. We are all different. Your anxiety doesn't make you abnormal, many people suffer from it. When your anxiety is under control it will be much easier to make some good friends. Friends are as important for your mental health as meds. Being lonely is very painful, I have been lonely for most of my life. I have some good friends now, they are very important to me.
>"what are you a male queer you fagget"
Why does your dad keep telling you that you're gay. Is he just being an idiot? I don't think he understands mental health problems at all... then again, it sounds a bit like he has mental health problems of his own. Not anxiety, but something else. Does anyone else live in your house?
You will get well- I have confidence in you,
Ed.
Posted by Donna Louise on January 9, 2005, at 6:45:55
In reply to Re: pray for hope, posted by mmcconathy on January 8, 2005, at 2:10:07
Hey Matt, I have been thinking of you and hope we can hear from you today, tell us how you are doing. I had not read your last "pray for hope" email when I responded before. I do think you have a great sense of humor but I see you are in much more pain than I realized so I am concerned for you and hope you will send us all a note today to stay in touch.
Sincerely,
Donna
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