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Posted by Jai Narayan on July 10, 2004, at 19:41:20
In reply to Re: Mrs. C, and the low carbers, posted by sexylexy on July 9, 2004, at 19:13:36
Looks real good!
I have the whole two weeks maped out for my induction part.
I have lost 15 lbs since Jan 2004.
I like it too.
The key is to stay away from coffee, sugar and wheat.
To focus on protein, veggies (low starch) and oils.
Adding fish oil. Use antioxidents...especially if you eat bacon...make sure your meat doesn't have nitrates, dyes, antibiotics, growth hormones or preservatives.
It takes time to loose weight too. you need to be patient.
I have been on a diet for 7 months and all I have lost is 15lbs. It's slowed down to a pound a month.
I am on induction for 2 weeks then back to being more daring but not reckless. I don't eat sugar anymore at all. I added CLA recently.You have to learn your body and it's needs. Maybe you are the kind of person who can't eat red meat?
Or fish?
or soy beans?
We all have similar but different needs. And our needs change. So be mindful and watch your body it is very smart.
Good luck and I love chatting about this topic.
Posted by Simus on July 10, 2004, at 23:45:13
In reply to from low carber to another, posted by Jai Narayan on July 10, 2004, at 19:41:20
I have seen the word ***trigger*** or ***trigger potential*** in the "subject" in other threads. What does that mean? Where are the guidelines for using it?
Thanks,
Simus
Posted by trucker on July 11, 2004, at 11:09:07
In reply to RE:Hey yo-yo's » anxious babe, posted by Simus on July 10, 2004, at 19:16:15
i am going off the south beach diet... because the only wieght i have lost is water... i can take a dieretic for that.. i am gonna return to the salad and grapefruit diet.....thought i'd let ya know...
trucker
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> > Simus how are you doing?
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> Sorry it took so long to respond. I was out of town for a couple of days. I am doing much better - thanks for asking.
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> God bless,
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> Simus
Posted by sexylexy on July 11, 2004, at 11:37:28
In reply to Can someone tell me what ***trigger*** means, posted by Simus on July 10, 2004, at 23:45:13
Hey Simus,
When you put trigger *Trigger* it shows a subject that may be sensitive to people. Eating Disorders, Sexual Abuse, Suicide ect. Sometimes hearing about these things can trigger someone to act on them or bring up painful memories that may harm progress ect. Hope this clears is up some!
Lexy
Posted by sexylexy on July 11, 2004, at 11:47:37
In reply to from low carber to another, posted by Jai Narayan on July 10, 2004, at 19:41:20
Hey Jai,
My plan was to go though carb induction then get on weight watchers to help keep it off. I started the "atkins" on Thursday and by saturday morning I was screaming at people and crying, I have battled with depression and hypoglycemia. I think that when I stopped eating sugar it really harmed me. I am not sure if you are familiar with hypoglcemia but it is naturally low blood sugar which can cause depression and anxiety (lovely). I have read that after a while the low carb thing stabilizes your blood sugar and is good for hypoglycemics but I could not get to it. I am going back on weight watchers. I lost 20lbs in about 2 months it was easy, I ate chocolate cake, pizza, mexican and sushi...all my favorite foods and still lost weight. I kept it off for over a year then got depressed and just did not care anymore that plus the lexapro helpped me put on about 7 lbs. I am now getting back on WW and going to try hard to get it off. Anyway, sorry this is so long winded, maybe you could consider WW and we could be each others support...just a thought, no matter best of luck with your weight loss battle and congrats on your 15lbs. That is wonderful!!!
Cheers!
Lexy
Posted by Simus on July 11, 2004, at 12:17:21
In reply to RE:Hey yo-yo's, posted by trucker on July 11, 2004, at 11:09:07
> i am going off the south beach diet... because the only wieght i have lost is water... i can take a dieretic for that.. i am gonna return to the salad and grapefruit diet.....thought i'd let ya know...
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> truckerTrucker, don't give up on it yet! It sounds like a great diet, and you are doing so well. You have all of the on-line support for the South Beach Diet too. The first thing to go on almost any diet other than a high carb diet is water, but the weight will come off. Could you please give it a little longer? Sometimes it takes a couple of weeks for the scale to really move after the initial water weight loss. But it will move. Could you give it at least another week or two?
Simus
Posted by Simus on July 11, 2004, at 12:48:18
In reply to Re: from low carber to another, posted by sexylexy on July 11, 2004, at 11:47:37
Lexy,
I am so sorry you felt so bad. I know EXACTLY what you are talking about.
In spite of what the "experts" say, I don't stop eating carbs "cold turkey". I think that is just too hard on our systems, especially for those of us who are on psychiatric meds. I think it is better to wean ourselves off of carbs. I keep a few of the healthier carbs handy like orange juice, nuts, raisins, even tortilla chips, but no refined sugar or white flour though (except maybe for a little semi-sweet chocolate), for when my blood sugar starts to drop. In a few days, I am able to reduce even these carbs and feel better again. I think it actually takes a couple of weeks to adjust to low carb eating.
I wish you the best. Keep us informed.
Simus
Posted by mystic on July 11, 2004, at 15:02:58
In reply to Re: from low carber to another » sexylexy, posted by Simus on July 11, 2004, at 12:48:18
Hey everyone...I think that after much thinking this weekend or not so much thinking..My memory is terrible I was holding Ryan today talking to the next door neighbor and she asked when Ryan was born and I completely forgot and it really upset me..then yesterday I left my wallet at the grocery store 2nd time in a month thank god for honest people..This lex is just brutal on your memory and I feel sooo stupid and cant focus on anything i feel like I'm just exsisting..I have given it 5 months of my life and I just cant do it anymore ...
Yesterday we had a cookout and I did all the work as usual hahaha..it was georges sons 33rd birthday and that was good but I just felt horrible very depressed..despondent and just scared all the time..I'm just sad all the time and cant shake it..I know that I think it is Lynda that is on welbutrin but she is away for the week so didnt know if anyone had any luck with that before...I hate being such a downer..i'm usually always in a great mood this is rediculous I want my old self back or something like it...
I hope that everyone is doing great..and thank you for listening as always..I promise that someday I will be on here and I will be myself and you will see...Take care all my yoyo's Your friend Mystic
PS Simus I triggered this one because of all the complaining about lex and dont want to make anyone think it wont work for them because is works for a lot of people....
Posted by trucker on July 11, 2004, at 19:50:56
In reply to Re: from low carber to another » sexylexy, posted by Simus on July 11, 2004, at 12:48:18
i quit the south beach diet.. all i lost was water weight.. i can take a pill and loose that with out being hungry.. i am going to the tried and true grapefruit and salad.. i know it works.. since my glands and things are all messed up with the polycystic ovarian syndrom it makes it exceptionally hard to loose weight.. so i must do what works for me..
trucker
Posted by trucker on July 11, 2004, at 19:53:13
In reply to RE:Hey yo-yo's » trucker, posted by Simus on July 11, 2004, at 12:17:21
SORRRY TOOOOO LATE I ALREADY QUIT.. AND WILL BEGIN THE GRAPEFRUIT AND SALADtrucker
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> > i am going off the south beach diet... because the only wieght i have lost is water... i can take a dieretic for that.. i am gonna return to the salad and grapefruit diet.....thought i'd let ya know...
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> Trucker, don't give up on it yet! It sounds like a great diet, and you are doing so well. You have all of the on-line support for the South Beach Diet too. The first thing to go on almost any diet other than a high carb diet is water, but the weight will come off. Could you please give it a little longer? Sometimes it takes a couple of weeks for the scale to really move after the initial water weight loss. But it will move. Could you give it at least another week or two?
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> Simus
Posted by susielalala on July 11, 2004, at 19:56:22
In reply to RE:: Hey everyone trigger negative, posted by mystic on July 11, 2004, at 15:02:58
Hi all. Mystic I have the same problem with memory. Mine has been terrible since the Lex. At least that is what I am blaming it on. lol Anyway I cant remember what I did an hour ago sometimes, that is scarey. I also am tired of the roller coaster ride with the lex. I feel good for awhile and then I fell horrible. I feel spacey and wierd and very out of it sometimes, then on the other hand I feel good and can handle alot more than I uas to. I dont get it. I am just tired of the ride. I want to feel good alot mre than I do. I am hoping with time on this drug we all will. I am still praying for all of you. I also am having palpatations and dizziness, oh the joy of being a woman on lex and menapausing at the same time lol. Well all I am gonna go for now I hope you all have a great week and are feeling good, Love ya, Ali
Posted by Simus on July 11, 2004, at 21:39:42
In reply to RE:: Hey everyone trigger negative, posted by mystic on July 11, 2004, at 15:02:58
> My memory is terrible
I had the same problem with Lexapro. My memory improved greatly when I went off Lex. And no memories were permanently "lost" as I had feared.
> I think it is Lynda that is on welbutrin but she is away for the week so didnt know if anyone had any luck with that before...
I think Lynda went off Lex completely and starting Wellbutrin. That's what I did. I think Trucker is on Lex and Wellbutrin. We will have to ask her. She seems to be doing very well with her meds.
Mystic, we understand that you are "down" because of medicine problems. I think most of us have been there. You have given Lex a more-than-fair try. So maybe you should consider talking to your doctor about a med change.
How did therapy go Friday???
God bless,
Simus
Posted by Simus on July 11, 2004, at 21:45:25
In reply to Re: from low carber to another, posted by trucker on July 11, 2004, at 19:50:56
Trucker,
How did you feel on the South Beach Diet??? Were you hungry? I have been looking around at the various diets, but I haven't committed to just one yet...
Yeah, I hear polycystic ovaries make women gain weight easily and then losing weight really tough.
Best of luck - let us know how you are doing.
Simus
Posted by Simus on July 11, 2004, at 21:50:38
In reply to RE:: Hey everyone trigger negative, posted by susielalala on July 11, 2004, at 19:56:22
Ali,
Good to hear from you. I wish you were feeling better though. Thanks for your prayers. You are in ours too.
Simus
Posted by mystic on July 11, 2004, at 22:12:22
In reply to RE:: Hey everyone trigger negative » mystic, posted by Simus on July 11, 2004, at 21:39:42
Simus..as always thank you for your post...My appt on friday was ok it was pretty intense and probably set me off for the weekend but it will be good..we did the last appt with the getting information and getting ready to actually start the rapid eye movement therapy which we will start in 2 weeks ..i wish that we met every week as to get this going and helping but he is away next week so it is the friday after next...I'm anxious to get these feelings and sort through the memories to get better I hope...He suspects that it will be long road as he was surprised at the degree of mental abuse at the hands of my mother and uncle so he assured me that he thinks that this will work but to be aware that it will be tough and I shouldnt go to work after a session..which is best I have Fridays off and will do my appts then...
Simus are you on wellbutrin also??...I wasnt sure..if so how is it working for you...my problem is anxiety/depression and someone mentioned that it might not be great for anxiety might make it worse..if not what are you on at this time...Well I'm off going to bed..thank you so much simus I'm grateful to have you as a friend...How are you feeling??...better I hope!!!...your friend mystic
Posted by Simus on July 12, 2004, at 1:54:36
In reply to RE:: Simus, posted by mystic on July 11, 2004, at 22:12:22
> Simus are you on wellbutrin also??...I wasnt sure..if so how is it working for you...my problem is anxiety/depression and someone mentioned that it might not be great for anxiety might make it worse
Mystic,
I am so sorry that you have abuse in your background. I pray the therapy helps.
I am on 150mg Wellbutrin XL (and 1mg Xanax at bedtime as needed for sleep). I was up to 20-30mg Lexapro and it just wasn't working for me. So my doctor had me stop the Lex (didn't titrate down) and start the 150mg Wellbutrin on the same day. I was sooooo scared - afraid of Lex withdrawals, afraid of trying a new drug with a whole new set of side effects, wondering if the Wellbutrin was going to just lead down another blind alley... But really it went reasonably well. The worst "symptom", and basically the only one, was insomnia. I slept very little the first couple of nights. Thank God for Xanax and benedryl which got me through. I felt better on several levels almost immediately. The "zombie" feeling was immediately gone. It took a while for my memory to come back to (almost) normal though - maybe a couple of months. Now I feel almost "normal" again. There are occasional times I have to deal with some mild depression or anxiety, but it doesn't happen often.
I was worried about Wellbutrin and anxiety too. But after the first couple of days, I was OK. But I don't really remember feeling like I was going to have a panic attack. It was more like the feeling of one cup too much coffee. A word of caution is that it seems that Wellbutrin magnifies the effect of caffeine and alcohol, and it seems to take longer for them to leave the system. So I wouldn't advise coffee, Sudafed, diet pills or alcoholic beverages.
You might want to check with Lexy. I think she had a bad experience with Wellbutrin. But then we are all so different, and these drugs are all trial-and-error until we find something that helps.
God bless,
Simus
Posted by mystic on July 12, 2004, at 6:38:24
In reply to RE:: Simus » mystic, posted by Simus on July 12, 2004, at 1:54:36
Thank you soo much Simus for sharing that with me...My dr tends to have me go right off and try something right away at least that was the way with the lex he had me stop the paxil one night and start the lex the other morning it was weird but I have heard that paxil withdrawal is terrible but I was only on a very small amount for a couple of years at the end...Lexy also suggested seeing a psychiatrist..is that what you do or do you just see your primary??
I thank you Simus for all you do ..you are an angel without everyone on the posts I dont know what I would do...You are just a wonderful person and am grateful that I have met you and all the others...Have a great day...your friend Heidi
Posted by Simus on July 12, 2004, at 8:23:20
In reply to RE:: Simus, posted by mystic on July 12, 2004, at 6:38:24
> My dr tends to have me go right off and try something right away at least that was the way with the lex he had me stop the paxil one night and start the lex the other morning it was weird but I have heard that paxil withdrawal is terrible but I was only on a very small amount for a couple of years at the end...
Going from one SSRI to another, like Paxil to Lexapro, isn't too bad. It isn't like stopping SSRIs altogether, so you wouldn't be as likely to get withdrawal symptoms. Wellbutrin, however, isn't in the SSRI class of drugs, which is why I was concerned about SSRI withdrawal.
> Lexy also suggested seeing a psychiatrist..is that what you do or do you just see your primary??
Yes, my doctor referred me to a psychiatrist when I became suicidal from bad side effects from the drugs. I would think your condition is certainly severe enough to consider a psychiatrist. No matter how good your family doctor is, he can't compete with someone who deals with psychiatric problems 100% of the time. Something to consider...
I am so looking forward to brighter days for you, Heidi. May they come soon.
Your friend,
Simus
Posted by trucker on July 12, 2004, at 14:12:00
In reply to Re: from low carber to another » trucker, posted by Simus on July 11, 2004, at 21:45:25
hungry all the time after the 1st day
trucker
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> Trucker,
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> How did you feel on the South Beach Diet??? Were you hungry? I have been looking around at the various diets, but I haven't committed to just one yet...
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> Yeah, I hear polycystic ovaries make women gain weight easily and then losing weight really tough.
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> Best of luck - let us know how you are doing.
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> Simus
Posted by Jai Narayan on July 12, 2004, at 20:22:32
In reply to Re: from low carber to another, posted by sexylexy on July 11, 2004, at 11:47:37
Dear Lexy,
I am sure you are totally clear about what makes you feel sick and what works. Hypoglycemia is wicked, I don't have it but I know people who do. I remember a trick with that problem....a protein with fruit? does that make sense. For instance, an apple slice with cheese. The fruit get's you up and the protein carries you through. I am not sure if that works but I remember....cottage cheese with a plum?I can give up sugar (although everyday I want some when I'm at work).
It seems it's really the energy I crave so I sip Earl Gray Tea with cream all day (it's not really much tea (only 2 cups) but I need it to give up coffee). That seems to fill my need.I take blue green algea to help me with energy as well. I also use green tea in the am.
Tea has a ton of antioxidents.Okay I am rambling. Sorry I lost my focus.
Sounds like you've got a plan for your weight management. I think WW is a good group. I have never joined but heard really good things from my sister. I love chatting about weight loss. So let's keep it up.
Posted by sexylexy on July 12, 2004, at 20:55:07
In reply to to my friend Lexy..., posted by Jai Narayan on July 12, 2004, at 20:22:32
Hey Jai!
Wow, I commend you for being able to give up sugar. I am such an addict could be because of the hypoglycemic thing. It is really awful, it has gotten somewhat better. I have never heard about the fruit and protein but I can see how that would work really well. I mean it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the great tip.
I did atkins for 1 day and lost 3 lbs, I am assuming it was water weight, I am now following WW and know that some of the water weight will come back but hoping to steadly lose some weight.
I am so bad I just love to eat, especially things that are not good for me! I mean I swear if someone let me loose in Godiva for an hour of unsupervised fun there would be nothing left in the store and I would be in some heavenly chocolate coma. Hahaha, I am getting such a funny picture of that.
Anyhow, I love green tea, of course if I have caffinated drinks to many days in a row it makes my weird head feelings and depression. I am just a feak...haha. I have never tried earl grey, I love tea though, we should go have some (smile, internet tea time).
How do you like the blue green algea. I would love to try something that would help with energy. Right now I am waiting for my job to start and I am going to be a therapist at a child in-patient unit. I think that I am defintily going to need energy for that one!
I will for sure let you know how the weight battle goes, keep up, you are great to talk to!
Cheers!!!
Lexy
Posted by Anakin on July 12, 2004, at 23:57:11
In reply to Re: to my friend Jai..., posted by sexylexy on July 12, 2004, at 20:55:07
In my opinion... the only thing that works for MOST people is Weight Watchers, I am not to say SB and Atkins doesn't work, but I have tried them and stuck with them for a couple months, but I swear upon everything I own,eat a couple marshmallow peeps or something really sugary and you will instantly gain 8-10 pound in a few days, all water loss unless it is a lifelong committment...JUST AN OPINION.
Do weight watchers. It is reasonable. You CAN eat what you want, it just has to balance out with whatever else you eat. For example, eat a Big Mac something like 10-12 points, and you can have 24 in a day.... so you mooch otherwise once in awhile, it is ok. I ordered a Weight Watchers kit from EBAY, 45$ or something, and I know it is going to work. It makes so much more sense than anything else I have ever looked at. You CAN eat a Krispy Cream or Dunkin Donut, but you other meals must comply. GO For WW. IT MAKES SENSE!
I am always looking for a fad, but this is the only one that seems like it can be a committment.
Posted by mystic on July 13, 2004, at 6:44:43
In reply to my opinion, posted by Anakin on July 12, 2004, at 23:57:11
Anakin..Good luck on the weight watchers...I totally agree..it is a lifestyle that you are looking for to make it work and ww teaches you portions again and you can stick with it because you are not restricted on anything...Good Luck take care Mystic
Posted by Zena on July 13, 2004, at 10:58:50
In reply to my opinion, posted by Anakin on July 12, 2004, at 23:57:11
Anakin,
I also agree with you about weight watchers. You won't find any Dr. that has a problem with the program. I currently go as I am on two antidepressents & want to make sure I don't start gaining. So far I have kept it off. I am a life time member.
Zena
Posted by sexylexy on July 13, 2004, at 11:41:51
In reply to my opinion, posted by Anakin on July 12, 2004, at 23:57:11
Anakin!
Rock on, very well put about WW. I got on it after college and with in a few months had lost close to 20lbs. It was not water weight but fat, which stayed off even if I slipped up for a week or two. After a while I did not want the fatty/suggary foods as much because I got much better reinforcement from seeing the scale go down. I stayed with it and kept it all off for more than a year. I then got depressed/anxious and started loosing weight dramatically. So I completley stopped the POINTS and just tried to eat anything just to eat. So I got used to the eating whatever all the time because it was really hard to eat or gain weight. Well now I am gaining and just starting back into WW. looking foward to getting all the weight off about five/ seven pounds...you know I hear my engagement ring maybe coming so I got to get in shape for that!!! haha. Well talk to you soon!!
LExy
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