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Posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 12:11:18
my pdoc now wants me to go into the hospital.
i was triggered more than i thought yesterday and last night i txt pdoc drunk and saying stupid stuff (but was real at the time)
and now his office called and wants me to go in.i asked them to give me some time and give me a day. they are going to call back at end of day to verify i will go in.
on the one hand. ive Never gone to the hospital feeling good. and i do. just well a little too good.
yesterday after being triggered i went 'shopping' again and spent another $120 that we dont have.but then i went home and tooks lots of pills and drank. bad.
today i know WHY i was like i was yesterday i just couldnt stop it.
but i also cant focus here at work. i constantly want to leave. which i think i'm going to here in a bit. IM BORED, can concentrate, just wanna shop. ok have little urge to cut, but not much.
i feel a little crazed in head but no visual illusions anymore, no real paranoia.AND for the money that i would spend on outpatient i could buy a LOT of new Things!
Posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 12:12:57
In reply to Hospital when feeling ok??, posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 12:11:18
cant make a decision to save my life right now...literally. but id feel like a dope, everyone in there all depressive and then me, oh, how do i feel? just fine. no really...good.
ugh.i think i'll wait and see how tonight goes.
what ya'll think.
Posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 12:21:38
In reply to PS. what should i do?, posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 12:12:57
i'm going home to take an early zyprexa. maybe i should try upping this generic brand to 10 and see what happens?
Posted by phillipa on October 2, 2012, at 13:05:02
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do?, posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 12:21:38
I'm going to tell you as I read it you sould a bit manic. Go inpatient and get this staighened out now. It has sounded a lot like you are rapid cycling through you recent posts. It won't be for long. Observation and then maybe a change of meds. Please? Remember I used to be a certified psych nurse. Maybe not anymore but if I'd evaluated you I would have recommended inpatient short stay. With weather changes this can cause many to cycle you may find a lot of people in similar situations there. Keep us informed Phillipa
Posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 14:10:28
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do?, posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 12:21:38
took long lunch (hour).
now back at work. very aggitated. i need 24 hours. i need to discuss this with my dh.
would he rather me try to figure this out on my own? spending money we dont have. or go into the hospital (spending money we dont have) and i dont get any pretty stuff either.. :(i just feel weird about going in when i'm feeling relatively good. most of the time. only a few hours of the day really that i'm crappy. ok maybe 1/3 of the day...but still. at least when i m depressed i know i need help so i can function.
but i'm functioning...just not well. and people wont...and by people i mean my DH wont see me as sick and needing hosptital.
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Posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 14:16:27
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do?, posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 12:21:38
> i'm going home to take an early zyprexa. maybe i should try upping this generic brand to 10 and see what happens?
Bingo.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 14:18:46
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do?, posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 14:10:28
> *#@&$^*&#@^T$*&^*&#$*&^#$*(&^
Gosh, you are really frustrated and angry.
I think it would helpful to STOP and try some relaxing deep breathing. Breath in through your nose and slowly out through your mouth. You might be pleasantly surprised.
- Scott
Posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 14:28:41
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do? » b2chica, posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 14:18:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHabcP2CcGw
i like this for meditating and washing out...
i didnt take an early zyprexa, i took my 2:00 perphenazine and a gabapentin.
but i'll try upping zyprexa tonight to 10 and see what happens.thanks. and yes...i have a LOT of agitationg right nowawelewwe;oiwerjo;i froi;h rgeohi; erg;oih er
dang keyboard! i keep having yto back space. ugh!
Posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 14:35:45
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do? » b2chica, posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 14:16:27
> > i'm going home to take an early zyprexa. maybe i should try upping this generic brand to 10 and see what happens?
> Bingo.
Oh. I just read your post along another thread about generic Zyprexa. Your report is interesting and somewhat baffling, although stranger things are known to happen. Zyprexa can actually cause mania in some individuals! It is possible that a drug like Latuda would be a better drug for you.
You can:
1. Try taking your generic olanzapine and seeing what happens.
2. Go into the hospital in order to find another effective treatment.
3. Call your doctor and inquire about trying a different antipsychotic.
4. Call your doctor and inquire about trying a mood stabilizer like Depakote or Trileptal.
Your doctor is worried that you are either becoming suicidal or that your mania is escalating to become psychotic, even though you are not there yet. He wants to prevent either of these things from happening in the absence of 24 hour professional supervision.
- Scott
Posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 14:48:18
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do? » SLS, posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 14:35:45
hi scott.
i think i'm going to say no to hospital right now.
i'll take 10mg zyprexa tonight
i've tried couple other antipsychotics, (geodon, risperdal) not latunda or saphris? any weight gain with those?trileptal i almost stroked out and with my sleu of failed mood stabilizers they opted not to try me on depakote. i seem to do quite poorly on all anticonvulsants (except i'm taking gabapentin now and seems like maybe it was keeping things sligtly contained before i went off (then on them) again.
i wish my doc would tell me why he's suggesting hosptial. was it only because 'I' suggested it last night? but it was off night. triggered badly by morning incident. or does he really see a severity in my actions?
how can one go into a hospital feeling fine and not feel like an *ss wasting money!
thank you Scott for any input.a
Posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 15:17:54
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do? » SLS, posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 14:35:45
> Your doctor is worried that you are either becoming suicidal or that your mania is escalating to become psychotic, even though you are not there yet. He wants to prevent either of these things from happening in the absence of 24 hour professional supervision.
> - Scott
>i was suicidal last night but impulsively so. i have no desire to die right now, but i'm angry and want to push limits. the problem is i tend to suck these emotions inward and end up playing roulette with my meds. one day the bullet will come with a drastic end.
my visual illusions and raging paranoia are gone. i still have a couple visual things now and again, like a big tree turning into a thanksgiving day turkey. but comon. thats funny right? not scary. so i dont really count things like that.i am in need of something. some intervention but i dont know what i expect out of my doctor. i dont know what i want let a lone how to ask for 'it'.
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i'm feeling the surges now inside me. of anger and energy. if only i could get on the treadmill now. but by the time i get off work, pick up my youngest and go home i'll be tired and angry, instead of energy and angry. then my angry energy will build but i'll have no outlet again and i'll end up taking too many pills. or drink.
see. i'm psychic too...
i'll report tomorrow and tell you all how much of that happens.if i dont report...i've gone into the hospital.
thanks
b2c.
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 2, 2012, at 17:59:29
In reply to Hospital when feeling ok??, posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 12:11:18
Agree with Phillips, sounds like you're entering a manic phase, either go into hopsital or start taking a sedating antipsychotic as an outpatietn (olanzapine?)
Be guided by your doctor -s/he is trying to help
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 2, 2012, at 18:14:58
In reply to Re: Hospital when feeling ok??, posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 2, 2012, at 17:59:29
Oh, I just read that you're already taking olanzapine - guess that option is rulled out.
Go into hospital for a few days, get this under control, rather than let it turn into a train wreck.
If you arnt taking a mood stabaliser, definatly ask (demand?) that you start one
Posted by phidippus on October 2, 2012, at 18:51:02
In reply to Hospital when feeling ok??, posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 12:11:18
You're out of control. A hospitalization will help you stabilize.
Please go.
Eric
Posted by Beckett on October 2, 2012, at 19:33:00
In reply to Re: Hospital when feeling ok?? » b2chica, posted by phidippus on October 2, 2012, at 18:51:02
>i am in need of something. some intervention but i dont know what i expect out of my doctor.
Yes, I hear you on this. It's difficult to trust someone when the stakes are high.
I think you need the intervention, too. Please work with your doctor.
Posted by vbs on October 2, 2012, at 19:36:18
In reply to Re: Hospital when feeling ok??, posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 2, 2012, at 18:14:58
Based on your posts, I would say follow your pdoc's advice. You said that at one point you were feeling impulsively suicidal. And to top it off you're drinking and taking pills - not a good combination.
Posted by Zyprexa on October 2, 2012, at 19:55:58
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do? » b2chica, posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 14:16:27
> > i'm going home to take an early zyprexa. maybe i should try upping this generic brand to 10 and see what happens?
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> - Scottya thats what I think too.
All the money on hospital could buy a lot of zyprexa! But first try a bigger dose of generic.
Posted by phidippus on October 2, 2012, at 20:01:14
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do? » b2chica, posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 14:16:27
She needs a mood stabilizer.
Eric
Posted by Zyprexa on October 2, 2012, at 20:09:41
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do? » SLS, posted by b2chica on October 2, 2012, at 15:17:54
Better yet you could take 20mg olanzapine and lots of perphenazine, get a lot of rest and don't drink too much tonight. I took very high doses of zyprexa when I was getting off the abilify and was very unstable for years. The high zyprexa did help. Now I only need 10mg olanzapine and thinking of stoping the perphenazine. Which also helped out when I was realy unstable. You might just have to put up with weight gain for a while, like I did, but now I'm losing it all. I'm back down to 195 lbs now, was at 230.
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 2, 2012, at 20:58:32
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do? » b2chica, posted by Zyprexa on October 2, 2012, at 20:09:41
B2, I take it your diagnosis is bipolar?
Are you not taking a mood stabaliser, and if not, is there a reason why?
Posted by phillipa on October 2, 2012, at 21:40:24
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do?, posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 2, 2012, at 20:58:32
Jono I think B2chica said she didn't do well on mood stabalizers. But B2chica you are playing with dynamite as you stated and remember you have to little girls whom you love who need a well Mommy. Phillipa
Posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 22:45:40
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do? » SLS, posted by phidippus on October 2, 2012, at 20:01:14
> She needs a mood stabilizer.
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> Eric
Zyprexa makes for a great antimanic and antisuicide drug.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 22:48:03
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do? » phidippus, posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 22:45:40
> > She needs a mood stabilizer.
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> - Scott
It is good for emergencies.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 23:40:39
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do?, posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 22:48:03
> > > She needs a mood stabilizer.
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> - ScottA true mood stabilizer is capable of treating acute episodes of both mania and depression as well as acting as a prophylactic to prevent future relapses into either mood state. Lithium meets these conditions. Lamictal and Depakote do not.
And yes, Zyprexa is a mood-stabilizer. It fits the strict definition, and has been approved by the FDA as being such. And no, Lamictal is not a mood stabilizer by this definition. It has antidepressant effects, but is not a good drug to treat acute mania. It is only marginally effective as a prophylactic against mania. Depakote can treat acute mania and help prevent future relapses, but does not ordinarily treat depression, and can sometimes produce it.
- Scott
Posted by b2chica on October 3, 2012, at 8:48:09
In reply to Re: PS. what should i do?, posted by Zyprexa on October 2, 2012, at 19:55:58
Thanks everyone for input.
i decided to take max (prescribed) meds last night.
plus i doubled olanzipine to 10mg.
slept most of evening, woke up had bowl of cereal and went back to bed. slept till 6:45 this morning.i'm feeling kinda apathetic with energy if you can understand that.
my urge to leave work is very strong. but i was fine an hour ago. ready to work. now i just want to leave.
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i just filled out my time card for last two weeks and it looks like a checkerboard with the squirts of time i took off here and there.this Cant look good.
not sure where to go from here.
i'm gonna stay on 10. suprisingly this brand olanzapine doesnt seem to make me crave food at all??? but i have lots of anxiety too.
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