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Posted by sdb on May 15, 2008, at 17:00:31
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by Fivefires on May 14, 2008, at 23:27:02
if this is the way that makes you most happy (without meds also) then stay the course.
warm regards
sdb
Posted by undopaminergic on May 15, 2008, at 17:40:35
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... » Fivefires, posted by ace on May 11, 2008, at 23:55:29
>
> I would suggest Nardil with a fast titration, up to a maximum of 60mg within 2 week, if you can tolerate any s/effects. On top of that i would suggest you continue with Valium (or another benzo) at a dose required. The drug TRAMADOL can also be of benefit (on a short term basis).
>The use of tramadol under treatment with phenelzine (Nardil) or other potent MAOI should be approached with great caution, as the combination of monoamine oxidase inhibition with the serotonin reuptake inhibition of tramadol has the potential to precipitate the serotonin syndrome. If an opioid would be of use, codeine, oxycodone or any other drug free of serotonergic activity is safer.
Posted by undopaminergic on May 15, 2008, at 17:50:30
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by Simon79 on May 14, 2008, at 0:00:57
>
> Yeah I drink to supress the psychiatric symptoms which usually takes about 3 units to overcome with the benzos i'm taking.. and the 4th allows me to relax and have a conversation with without my mind being quite so paralyzed with anxiety.
>You may find codeine or another opioid to be a more useful alternative. Although opioids share the potential for tolerance and dependence with alcohol, they are less prone to impairing cognition and psychomotor performance.
Posted by lady scruffe on May 16, 2008, at 16:33:14
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by Fivefires on May 11, 2008, at 0:49:22
I have been on all psych drugs/augmented ect (seen numerous Docs, did ECT - NO ONE should do ECT. It gives new meaning to "the surgery was a success but the patient died")for the last 6 yrs (treatment resistent depression/GAD disabled from this since 2002) except MAOI's until about a month ago when I was on Parnate for 30 days. Even though I followed diet restrictions religiously - I ended up in the ER (ER Doc had no knowledge of this old class of drugs and went online in order to treat me) with high BP and my head about to explode from pain.I am starting Nardil tomorrow - please tell me
Weight gain?
Other side effects?
I am scared of this since my previous experience. Thanks
Posted by Fivefires on May 17, 2008, at 3:50:12
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... }} ace, posted by sdb on May 15, 2008, at 17:00:31
I dont get but think you're trying to say more 'sdb'? To me?
I am not happy feelin' like a zombie ... way not me. Others around me may be happy about it though .. ha!
Let me know if I'm picking up on something u think important pls.
It was suggested I titrate up more slowly and decided to do so today.
Any1 say why 'yogurt' is a no-no? I am lactose intolerant. I must use 'soy milk w/ cereal, cooking, etc.' Take a lot of Lactase.
Any knowledge/thots appreciated. Glad Ace has soemthing IRL 2b doin this Fri nite; it's isolating and desolute here. Wish I was living on a brick-paved street and could see flashing lights across the street.
My environment is conducive to lethargy, so any 'excitement thrown this way' 'anything to keep my brain and body moving' appreciated!
best2alloverwkend
5f
Posted by Fivefires on May 17, 2008, at 3:59:33
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by undopaminergic on May 15, 2008, at 17:40:35
>I would suggest Nardil with a fast titration, up to a maximum of 60mg within 2 week, if you can tolerate any s/effects.>I weight 110lbs ud. I'd not argue if were inpatient or w/ someone here w/ me. I can barely function 15mg 3xaday so goign back to 2xaday ths first week.
> On top of that i would suggest you continue with Valium (or another benzo) at a dose required.>
Gotcha there.
>The drug TRAMADOL can also be of benefit (on a short term basis). The use of tramadol under treatment with phenelzine (Nardil) or other potent MAOI should be approached with great caution, as the combination of monoamine oxidase inhibition with the serotonin reuptake inhibition of tramadol has the potential to precipitate the serotonin syndrome.>
Oh .. well best I not use unless an absolute then assume.
>If an opioid would be of use, codeine, oxycodone or any other drug free of serotonergic activity is safer.>
I'm on oxycodone. I was telling a fam' member I felt I might be lucky to be on such at this time as I've felt 'the all over ache' w/ Nardil. I wrote down Tramadol. I think it's a pain med so I prob' not need, but will try google. (I've got a lot of notes to self lying around my keyboard here, 'if ya get my drift'?) o_o
tks for the knowledge here ud,
5f
Posted by ace on May 19, 2008, at 1:31:30
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by Fivefires on May 14, 2008, at 6:31:50
> Ace please, need help badly and cannot find even though have made every attempt feasible.
>
> Know asking a lot, but will you please contact me via the babblemail feature .....
>
> 5fSure- what is the babble feature??
Hang on there.....
God Bless,
Ace
Posted by ace on May 19, 2008, at 1:59:09
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by Simon79 on May 14, 2008, at 0:00:57
> I hope I'm not bugging you too muchNot possible!
but I have one last question and you are such a wealth of knowledge I thought I would give it a shot
> Do you think if somebody has had severe social anxiety such as I have for 10 years (and overcome most of it (i think i will)) if they have a baby the baby would develope social anxiety also?These is an extremely hard qstn to answer in a unequivocal way as there are so many variables in question. However, I would say there is a high chance. Now, I feel strongly that what set your psychiatric syndrome off (in this case, we are talking about Social Anxiety) was a trauma that caused a subtle change in brain biochemistry which got worse over time (and, more than likely, added to via further trauma) I think you were born with a certain vunrebality with regards your biochemistry (of the brain)
For example: Some people are born with big broad shoulders, some are board with much less broad shoulders.
Analogous to this, is the brain. I feel some are born with staunch biochemistry which can withstand extrenal trauma (even to a great degree) Unfortunately, others are born with a 'weaker' biochemistry...just waiting for a trauma to cause a lesion/inbalance in the brain.
That is just life. No one is better than anyone else I feel. I remember painfully when my Mum called me 'stupid' in a angry voice, for not being able to tie my shoelaces correctly when I was younger. But the same happened with my brother and it did not have such an effect on him.
This isn't my dear Mums fault- it is no ones fault I feel. it' life.
Now, depending on your husbands/partners biological make-up, we see your situation.I feel it is definately likely- even more so if your husband/partner does suffer psychiatric illness.
But it is not definite!
I would suggest treating the child with the utmost care (which I am sure you would!)- maybe when Mothers get so stressed at times, they can express anger at the child- I would advice against this- but life is hard!
My psychologist reckons my social anxiety is larely a psychological problem (psychologists 4 ya) but he acknowledges that part of the problem is that I am more genetically vulnerable to anxiety than most (genes).
There is a huge debate with regards to genes and mental illness. I am certain there is genetic factors involved...but proving it, as well as any psychiatric illness, is not going to be easy.I am not a fan of psychology at all! I feel it is cruel to say that severe mental illnees is 'psychological', and the patient must work against the symptoms. This really makes things worse, from what I have seen! I think accept the symptoms, all the time knowing you are not to blame, and you are just as good as anyone. Don't try to struggle and 'fight' against the symptoms, I feel. Let medication do it's job, and seek out friends, family, etc etc etc
I just don't want 2 have a child and for them to have to go through the ten years of hell I have been through, I think it would be unfair on the child, and selfish on my part for wanting to have a kid without thinking about the potential hell/suffering they might go through.I understand. This is an admirable attitude. But you have already thought about about the potential for the child to feel pain!!!
There is no 100% guarantee that the child would inherit similiar problems. And if they did, that is not your fault, and they can be dealed with. Life brings us so much! I think it would be MORE unfair to deny yourself the right to procreate....Do you have any children?
No I don't. But I absolutely intend too. I'm enough of a child myself still at the moment!!!
Did they develope social anxiety? What's your take/opinion/advice on this issue? The reason I am asking this is because guys want to have gf's, and gf's eventually want to get married and many want to have a child.
> My opinion is that if my partner is not genetically susceptible to anxiety then the child should be alright because the child we be inheriting only half of my genes and social anxiety is half genetic and half psychological also I believe.I see what your saying here. Sorry i didn't read this before answering above! You do seem very worried and anxious about this issue...a lot of rumination on this? It's so hard- I would not try to analyse genetic factors, and try to predict whether your child would have a similiar condition. I really feel you will just get so anxious about it. And, unfortunately, science can't provide the answers. I think you have a responsible and caring attitude, and, if your child developed a similiar problem, you would be such a great Doctor to him/her!
I really hope this helps, please stay in touch....!God Bless You,
Andrew
> P.s thanks for the clinical trials on nardil
> Simon79
>
>
> This brings back memories! Before I started Nardil I was drinking every day- large quantities. In order to go out, without anxiety, I had to be intoxicated. This was obviously detrimental to so many things.
>
> I remeber talking about alcohol to my MD. I was very concerned that I wasn't going to be able to drink.....I didn't wan't to loose my alcohol!!!
>
> After starting Nardil I stopped. After 6 weeks, I thought "this is way better than any beer!!" In 7 years (almost) I have been intoxicated twice....both times I drank tap beer (which is contraindicated) and I had no problems at all- except it gave me a heightened response to the alcohol.
>
> To answer your question, I would most certainly AVOID alcohol whilst waiting for Nardil to kick in (certainly not have 4 drinks a day). I DO feel it can interfere, and I have seen evidence for this. I can't explain exactly why I'm sorry.
>
> When Nardil kicks in, and I strongly feel it will!, I would advice to drink bottled beer (tyramine can accumulate in the pipes- resulting in a possible HT crises) I have mentioned this before. I would personally be moderate in my intake.
>
> Do you drink in order to supress psychiatric syndromes, or is it a social thing??
>
>
Posted by ace on May 19, 2008, at 2:10:49
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by lady scruffe on May 16, 2008, at 16:33:14
> I have been on all psych drugs/augmented ect (seen numerous Docs, did ECT - NO ONE should do ECT. It gives new meaning to "the surgery was a success but the patient died")for the last 6 yrs (treatment resistent depression/GAD disabled from this since 2002) except MAOI's until about a month ago when I was on Parnate for 30 days. Even though I followed diet restrictions religiously - I ended up in the ER (ER Doc had no knowledge of this old class of drugs and went online in order to treat me) with high BP and my head about to explode from pain.I am starting Nardil tomorrow - please tell me
Glad to here you are on Nardil!
> Weight gain?
Yes, very possible. BUT, usually treatable with certain agents, and vigilance to diet/exercise regime.
> Other side effects?To be fair, there is a lot. However, many of these are short term, and most, if not all are manageble.
The ones I notice most, and myself experienced...
*Weight Increase
(Increased desire to eat sweet foods///? Metabolism changes)
*Anorgasmia
*Constipation (and possibly other GI probs)
*Sedation (although some get insomnia)
*Dizziness and Postural Hypotension (faded quickly)
There are more....All thes s/effecst are gone now with myself, except GI probs. I still get sedation but, which I like.I look back on the s/effects and I really love the fact I had them for some reason! It just reminds of the early days on this Gem of a medication!
> I am scared of this since my previous experience. Thanks
Try not be scared.....For hypertensive crises I have noticed far more risk with parnate.....
I would recommend nifedipine...many more some C. Channel Blockers......hope all goes well!!!!!!!!!
Ace:)
Posted by ace on May 19, 2008, at 2:13:56
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by undopaminergic on May 15, 2008, at 17:40:35
> >
> > I would suggest Nardil with a fast titration, up to a maximum of 60mg within 2 week, if you can tolerate any s/effects. On top of that i would suggest you continue with Valium (or another benzo) at a dose required. The drug TRAMADOL can also be of benefit (on a short term basis).
> >
>
> The use of tramadol under treatment with phenelzine (Nardil) or other potent MAOI should be approached with great caution, as the combination of monoamine oxidase inhibition with the serotonin reuptake inhibition of tramadol has the potential to precipitate the serotonin syndrome. If an opioid would be of use, codeine, oxycodone or any other drug free of serotonergic activity is safer.
I see what your saying here, although the combination posed no problem for myself. In addition I have seen (a few) anectodes on their combined use, and one clinical trial (which espoused the combination)
Tramadol acted extremely with with Nardil, but as you know we are all so individual with our reactions....
You caveat is warranted.
Posted by Fivefires on May 21, 2008, at 2:56:56
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... +raquo; Fivefires, posted by ace on May 19, 2008, at 1:31:30
Ace ... you click on my name. (See. It is sort of highlighted .. meaning I accept babble mail.) It is still private; not like an email or anything. When reply, be sure follow instructions there.
But hey, I think maybe it's too late re: Nardil. The side effects were too much for me and pdoc wouldn't approve for inpatient stabilization so I maybe took one yesterday. Can't remember. Awoke today very ill and I'd bet if weighed self, have lost 10lbs. Body pain hard because already have c-spine injury. Zombie feeling and no one to help w/ NADLs.
Thing is, I think I felt where you were going w/ this whole thing. There was a tapping into my own real feelings which made me recall the strong and assertive person I once was. Something was definitely happening.
So ... it's really a case of my being small, alone, no good management, and unable to tolerate the side effects.
Also there have been some things happen in my life here and here. Loved ones and friends seem to find me replaceable and my heart is broken, and I guess 'their shoulders are', so added to the difficulty.
And too, feels like health care for this illness sort of cuts down its clientele by just allowing pp to fall by the wayside, probably about $.
If I'm here and you're here, maybe we'll talk.
But, no matter, I appreciate your enthusiastic offer of support.
5f
Posted by undopaminergic on May 21, 2008, at 18:45:29
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... +raquo; undopaminergic, posted by ace on May 19, 2008, at 2:13:56
> > >
> > > I would suggest Nardil with a fast titration, up to a maximum of 60mg within 2 week, if you can tolerate any s/effects. On top of that i would suggest you continue with Valium (or another benzo) at a dose required. The drug TRAMADOL can also be of benefit (on a short term basis).
> > >
> >
> > The use of tramadol under treatment with phenelzine (Nardil) or other potent MAOI should be approached with great caution, as the combination of monoamine oxidase inhibition with the serotonin reuptake inhibition of tramadol has the potential to precipitate the serotonin syndrome. If an opioid would be of use, codeine, oxycodone or any other drug free of serotonergic activity is safer.
>
>
> I see what your saying here, although the combination posed no problem for myself. In addition I have seen (a few) anectodes on their combined use, and one clinical trial (which espoused the combination)
> Tramadol acted extremely with with Nardil, but as you know we are all so individual with our reactions....
> You caveat is warranted.
>Some people get rather severe reactions from the addition of a SSRI to selegiline at MAO-B selective doses, although I personally used the combination (with sertraline) without problems, and there have also been studies using these combinations; in other words, there is indeed a great deal of individual variation.
Posted by FredPotter on May 21, 2008, at 21:02:16
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... » lady scruffe, posted by ace on May 19, 2008, at 2:10:49
After 2 years I am still fat around the middle. What are the agents for weight loss people mention?
Posted by Phillipa on May 21, 2008, at 21:31:24
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by FredPotter on May 21, 2008, at 21:02:16
Fred where have you been? Still on nardil? love Phillipa
Posted by ace on May 21, 2008, at 23:45:10
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by FredPotter on May 21, 2008, at 21:02:16
> After 2 years I am still fat around the middle. What are the agents for weight loss people mention?
Hi mate! Topamax seems to work for a lot of people. In addition, Clonidine too.Drinking a LOT of water is also great- I tried this and it worked...
I will check out my list of meds to combat this annoying s/effect- There are quite a few....
Posted by Fivefires on May 22, 2008, at 2:49:35
In reply to Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by ace on May 5, 2008, at 23:36:34
Ace
Did I discouraged you from contacting me?
Was it because I said ...
Thing is, I think I felt where you were going w/ this whole thing. There was a tapping into my own real feelings which made me recall the strong and assertive person I once was. Something was definitely happening.
?
If you have a change of heart, pls contact.
I still have A LOT of interest in 'what it was that was happening and there is the possibility of my re-trying inpatient. I may be unable to correspond for a while, so, hope you'll see and write.
5f
Posted by FredPotter on May 22, 2008, at 21:26:19
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... » FredPotter, posted by ace on May 21, 2008, at 23:45:10
Oooo! Does mean I can drink vast quantities of beer? Thanks for the info Ace. I'll try the water. Can't it be dangerous in large quantities though? Fred
Posted by ace on May 22, 2008, at 23:53:14
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by Fivefires on May 22, 2008, at 2:49:35
> Ace
>
> Did I discouraged you from contacting me?No. not at all! I am all over the place now, so busy, loosing track of days!
I will get back to your mail ASAP- and I am sorry I did overlook it.
I am away from home now, so have limited net access, but I will absolutely answer....!
Get back real soon!
Ace
Posted by ace on May 22, 2008, at 23:56:49
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... » ace, posted by FredPotter on May 22, 2008, at 21:26:19
> Oooo! Does mean I can drink vast quantities of beer?
Ummmm....I wouldn't advise that!!!!
Thanks for the info Ace. I'll try the water. Can't it be dangerous in large quantities though?No probs Fred! It EXTREMELY large quantities it can pose risks, but I am talking about extreme amounts!!!!
Check it out on the web....just google "water and weight loss" I lost weight so easy! I was on Nardil, Zyprexa, and Remeron- all weight gainers big time! But the water helped so much....
Mother Nature does look after us!
Cheers Fred!
Ace:)
Fred
Posted by Phoenix1 on May 23, 2008, at 12:24:38
In reply to Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by ace on May 5, 2008, at 23:36:34
Hi Ace,
I've read a lot of your Nardil posts from the archives, and I really respect your opinions. I need your advice please. I failed to respond to over a dozen AD's until I tried Nardil. Then it was like a light bulb turned on and the depression and anxiety literally melted away. Everything was great for 7 months at 90mg.
Then, out of the blue, I developed severe orthostatic hypotension which quickly turned into fainting spells. Pdoc discontinued Nardil over 7 days. 1 day after my last nardil dose, I woke up blind, paralyzed, and confused. Was diagnosed with PRES, a reversible swelling of the back of the brain caused by blood pressure fluctuation.
I'm getting better neurologically now, but my depression has returned, and my pdoc will not prescribe Nardil for me ever again. He thinks it caused the PRES. I believe the quick withdrawal caused the PRES.
In any event, I want to self-treat myself with Nardil. I can easily get my hands on the meds. What are your thoughts on this? I just feel like life isn't worth living with my current level of depression, so my options are to take the Nardil at considerable risk, or to just end everything...
> Hey all......
>
> I havent been around a lot, but used to be preety regular here. I just want to repeat again my sentiments on Nardil, in the hope that this phenomenal medication could help someone in the way it helped myself.....
>
> I have been on Nardil around 7 years now. It has worked amazingly. The only time I have had problems is when I have not done the correct thing with regards to the drug.
>
> I strongly recommend the following....
>
> 1. Take Nardil at the same time(s) each day
> 2. Once you are on the right dose - STAY THERE!
> Do not go down, despite what so many uninformed say.
> 3. Do NOT STRESS about the diet! It is greatly overstated. I eat anything anytime, with no regards for the diet- I don't espouse that, but that's what I do- with no problem.
>
> IF I do have a problem, I use Nifedipine or Thorazine. Going to the hospital, I do NOT recommend, as nurses and doctors are not trained about MAOI's these days to any substanial degree.
>
>
>
> In closing, Nardil has changed my life. For so long, I had problems walking two feet out of my house without debilitating anxiety. For so long I suffered wretching depression. Nardil truly set me free to a very very high degree.
>
> When these problems have recurred at a high level, It has always been myself to blame! Not taking the drug at regular intervals...'forgetting' doses, etc etc
>
> I have also got severe OCD- Nardil DID help with this too, but, for the great part, Seroquel relieves me of these symptoms. Nardil wiped out my social phobia.
>
> One last thing- Nardil can very often create what I call a 'healthy euphoria". At such times, I would recommend one be vigilant to how much one spends, how one behaves.
>
> I used to be so socially phobic, I could not eat in front of others, I could not wear certain clothes for fear someone may disapprove, I could not approach the opposite sex.
>
> After 3 months on Nardil I was wearing anything I like, walking around, at times, with died hair and shirt off, asking literally 10 girls out on a date every day. It made, and makes me feel, happy to be alive. It seemed to also provide a sense of love for others- at times I would purposely 'bump' into others just so I could have the chance to smile, say 'sorry!
>
> I am now about to embark on my residency, with the view to being a psychiatrist (this still takes much time (and exams!)). When that time comes, I will not be on the drug. Without Nardil I don't think I would be at this level in my life.
>
> I truly hopes this might help someone....
>
> God Bless you All!
>
> Ace....
Posted by Fivefires on May 23, 2008, at 13:58:48
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... » Fivefires, posted by ace on May 22, 2008, at 23:53:14
Ace ... just lost three paragraph post.
Think in withdrawal ... agitation, rapid heart beat, labored breathing like long drawn out hyperventilating, lost weight/fluids.
No help from medical resources. o_o
Can't re-type all again now as too ill.
Will do tho'.
tks, 5f
Posted by undopaminergic on May 23, 2008, at 16:29:39
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... » FredPotter, posted by ace on May 21, 2008, at 23:45:10
> > After 2 years I am still fat around the middle. What are the agents for weight loss people mention?
>
>
> Hi mate! Topamax seems to work for a lot of people.
>Another anticonvulsant that might work is zonisamide. The anti-diabetic agent metformin can also be useful.
> In addition, Clonidine too.
I would favour guanfacine over clonidine, if possible, as clondidine tends to be rather sedating.
Posted by undopaminergic on May 24, 2008, at 14:39:24
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... » ace, posted by Phoenix1 on May 23, 2008, at 12:24:38
>
> I've read a lot of your Nardil posts from the archives, and I really respect your opinions. I need your advice please. I failed to respond to over a dozen AD's until I tried Nardil. Then it was like a light bulb turned on and the depression and anxiety literally melted away. Everything was great for 7 months at 90mg.
>
> Then, out of the blue, I developed severe orthostatic hypotension which quickly turned into fainting spells. Pdoc discontinued Nardil over 7 days. 1 day after my last nardil dose, I woke up blind, paralyzed, and confused. Was diagnosed with PRES, a reversible swelling of the back of the brain caused by blood pressure fluctuation.
>
> I'm getting better neurologically now, but my depression has returned, and my pdoc will not prescribe Nardil for me ever again. He thinks it caused the PRES. I believe the quick withdrawal caused the PRES.
>The fluctuations of blood pressure were the problem that caused PRES. A rapid elevation of blood pressure following Nardil discontinuation may have been the problem.
Taking methylphenidate with Nardil may help stabilise blood pressure, and also reduce tyramine sensitivity. However, the combination needs to be initiated with low doses and close monitoring of the blood pressure response.
Posted by simon79 on May 24, 2008, at 22:43:28
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever....... » Simon79, posted by ace on May 19, 2008, at 1:59:09
Dear Ace,
Thanks for responding to my posts
Your answers hit the nail right on the head they were excellent
I'm playing it safe and I'm going to continue to titrate up very slowly for reasons I won't go into right now. 2 weeks and i get to 45 yay! then i might actually feel something, although 60 is the one i'm really looking forward to, from what i've read 75 is when the side effects start to kick in a bit harder
Anyway, I'll let u know when the nardil kicks in, fingers cross (both hands)
Thanks for answering all my newbie nardil
questions
My psych wants me to stop clonazempam once the nardil kicks in, however I will oppose this as my anxiety level is 'severe'.. It's about as bad as you can get, and I need all the help I need right now
Best wishes
Simon79
Posted by ace on May 25, 2008, at 23:04:07
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by Fivefires on May 22, 2008, at 2:49:35
> Ace
>
> Did I discouraged you from contacting me?
>
> Was it because I said ...
>
> Thing is, I think I felt where you were going w/ this whole thing. There was a tapping into my own real feelings which made me recall the strong and assertive person I once was. Something was definitely happening.
>
> ?
>
> If you have a change of heart, pls contact.
>
> I still have A LOT of interest in 'what it was that was happening and there is the possibility of my re-trying inpatient. I may be unable to correspond for a while, so, hope you'll see and write.
>
> 5f
Hey there:) I am back- can you tell me which exact post You want me to answer? I looked above but could not locate it.... Or, if you have the energy, please ask again....Sorry for this confusion!
Ace:)
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