Posted by Damos on August 23, 2005, at 17:39:56
In reply to Re: The Problem of Action, posted by alexandra_k on August 22, 2005, at 19:34:22
Finally read this whole thread through on the way home last night. Was so into it I missed my station on the train and had to let the first bus that came go so I could finish before I got home.
Was this the seminar you delivered a few weeks back? Some of the terminology and stuff had me boggled a bit but I managed to work it out kinda.
I found myself thinking 'oh boy, is she goiing where I think she's going?' and then when I got to Reports of Experience people on the train were looking at me oddly and I realised that the 'YES' I thought I'd only thought had in fact been rather loud - oops :-) From that point on I was just egging you on to go where you were headed. And you did, and you're right, so very right. If you attack me and try to prove me wrong, what's the first thing I'm gonna do? Defend. So what do you get? A war of attrition. The therapist finally says you're not trying - kapow, termination. Or the patient finally gives up and says 'you're not even trying to understand, before you tell me I'm wrong can't you at least try.', so they leave and maybe never go back. It's a lose-lose. If you don't even attempt empathetic understanding how can you ever hope to see how this person sees the world and themself in it. How can you ever hope to see how their view can be true for them. It has to be inside-out. You have to be inside their world to be able to take them by the hand and walk them out.
I really enjoyed this thread so much, Thanks Alex
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