Posted by alexandra_k on May 10, 2005, at 7:38:14
In reply to Re: This Is Your Option, posted by sunny10 on May 9, 2005, at 10:30:17
> I wonder why it is okay for them to "be human and have weaknesses", but it doesn't seem ok that we do!
Yeah. Ours gets to be 'pathological' theirs gets to be 'self protective' or something without the negative connotations anyway.
> We get terminated for it- or, we are forced to do the terminating because they HAVEN'T helped us... either way it comes out in our health records as being "too difficult to treat"...Yeah.
Doesn't it sound a little like blaming the victim? Linehan refers to it as that.
Just like you expect more from a cop to follow the law
You expect more from clinicians to be non-judgemental.
But it doesn't always work like that...
> Does that seem messed up to anyone but me?!?Yeah it is messed up.
I appreciate honesty.
I have had people say that they had to terminate me because they didn't know how to help me but they thought that someone else might be able to help me.
I have had other people say that they had to terminate me because I couldn't be helped. Because I wouldn't engage in therapy (cognitive restructuring).BUT IT ISN"T A MATTER OF LOGIC
Though my saying so is supposed to be reistent and pathological and that is just b*llshit.
Grr.
Too much talking and not enough listening.
Too much trying to change and not enough accepting.
Inability to tolerate silence.
Coping with the fact that I really don't have much of a desire to look them in the face much of the time and I don't have much of a desire to change that either.Oh well.
It is their call.
But we do expect more.
Maybe we shouldn't
But we do.But sometimes to admit to weakness can be too much for some people...
If they admit to not knowing how to help us
Not because there is something wrong with us
But because they just couldn't work it out
But continued to have faith that someone else could do that they could not.
Well.
That would be terrific.
I think I could even respect and accept a termination under those circumstances.
But I think maybe they are suseptible to cognitive errors of their own
'If I can't help this person then I must be deficient as a clinician' or something like that.What if they consider their own case...
Is it a matter of logic then?
Them succumbing to cognitive error?
Or then...
(And only then...)
Is it allowed to just arise from feelings of insecurity.
Feelings of insecurity are only human aren't they?But maybe its only clients who are supposed to admit to them.
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