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Re: Politics not in itselt uncivil IMHO » lil' jimi

Posted by jane d on April 18, 2003, at 0:16:01

In reply to Re: Re war and meall » lostsailor, posted by lil' jimi on April 17, 2003, at 21:55:24

> it is when i think that one view is being surpressed that, i feel, a disservice is being done to our prespective on the issues ..... and i feel there are those who would be happier if they could hear only one voice ... as long as they may choose that voice.... i think we can see where that might be comfortable,... But, i think, we can see where that can cause a bigger problem, .. ..bigger problems.

justyourlaugh,

I absolutely agree. It's a vice of both sides unfortunately.

> we are challenged to be civil here.... may we discuss whether or not i have been civil by bringing up politics as a subject for consideration? .... and is politics even the issue mr. robbins expresses, so much as the issue of free speech? .... even if the issue is "just" politics, am i being so uncivil here?

I personally don't think that bringing up the subject of politics in uncivil. I do think that before this thread is over it will end up in other people being uncivil. And I think that's sad. And yes, I thought he was mostly talking about free speech too.

> i would want to be civil and therefore, i apologize to anyone who i may have offended ... but would it be uncivil to expect the sensitive to, or to ask the more sensitive to ..... avert their eyes that i might not offend them ?

I'm a big fan of "just don't read it" if you don't like it.

> i would only hope that i might be allowed to ask that for those who would want to accept the challenge of opening this sort of discussion that we all engage with clear minds and open hearts each other's visions, that we might better understand .... each other, if not neccessarily the issue(s).
> ... if that is too much to expect and the powers-that-be deign this uncivil of me, then i shall fold my tent and vanish in to the night of silence .... and i will be okay.... even if it were offensive to my sensibilities.

I don't think you need to worry about the "powers that be". And I hope you can get the kind of discussion that you are looking for. But the recent threads don't make me optimistic about it. I also worry that when you have these discussions with people with whom you have not already established a strong relationship that you don't end up knowing them better - but less well. Good luck.

Jane


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