Posted by lil' jimi on April 17, 2003, at 21:55:24
In reply to Re war and meall, posted by lostsailor on April 17, 2003, at 20:11:11
> I read some here and there. I am so mixed up but well informed on all this, so I don't want anyone to think I don't care or am not concerned.
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> I will say that usually I swing to the moderately far left politically, but do not just vote party only. If an R is doing something I think will work, I'll pull the switch ect….
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> I support our troops.... I am lost.
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> Crimson, white and indigo seem, for now, surreal colors. Yet while running, cycling I find a prayer in heart or a brief salute in "necessary”
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> "Living" in Canada on and off may have helped with this a bit, as is the mass marketing of the colors. Did Betsy Rose and Francis Scott Key have all this in mind??
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> I am lost...
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> In peace, ~tonyhi tone-man,
thanks for your post . ... great to have you reply here.
these kind of issues can cause stress, so i wouldn't want to get anybody's neurotransmitters all wadded up into bunches or anything ... these are heavy issues .... it takes a certain kind of strenght to raise them ...and they bring a certain kind of tension of their own ... their expression can foster more stressin' ... and sometimes the strain may make us get focused on the style or tone or colors ... which isn't a bad thing if it's not hurtful ... there is more than one way to see our current events ... . and those varieties of view can create a challenge ... to our heads... to our hearts .... to our spirits ... and we may Or may not be well for those challenges.
i wouldn't want to offend anyone who was not able or willing to consider the alternatives and options and various world views which may not be to their taste(s) or liking.. .... but would not they be able to Not have to read this particular thread? ... does that kind of concern compell one to have to be silent?
it is when i think that one view is being surpressed that, i feel, a disservice is being done to our prespective on the issues ..... and i feel there are those who would be happier if they could hear only one voice ... as long as they may choose that voice.... i think we can see where that might be comfortable,... But, i think, we can see where that can cause a bigger problem, .. ..bigger problems.
i support our troops... i have a friend in the combat zone ... my dad and brother were both career air force officers ... i revere our military ... and i love our country ... all of which motivates my need, my urge to broach these issues.
is this not the place where we are allowed to consider and discuss the social, ethical, moral, civil, aesthetic .... and politcal aspects of human experience ? Is one of these so much more challenging than the others that we may not speak of it .... at all ..... least we dare offend?
we are challenged to be civil here.... may we discuss whether or not i have been civil by bringing up politics as a subject for consideration? .... and is politics even the issue mr. robbins expresses, so much as the issue of free speech? .... even if the issue is "just" politics, am i being so uncivil here?
i would want to be civil and therefore, i apologize to anyone who i may have offended ... but would it be uncivil to expect the sensitive to, or to ask the more sensitive to ..... avert their eyes that i might not offend them ?
is that uncivil?
i would only hope that i might be allowed to ask that for those who would want to accept the challenge of opening this sort of discussion that we all engage with clear minds and open hearts each other's visions, that we might better understand .... each other, if not neccessarily the issue(s).
... if that is too much to expect and the powers-that-be deign this uncivil of me, then i shall fold my tent and vanish in to the night of silence .... and i will be okay.... even if it were offensive to my sensibilities.can you help me out tony? you're the sailor... what do you think?
i am lost ....
~ jim
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