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Re: RE-redirect! please take this back to PB! » JahL

Posted by Wendy B. on October 8, 2001, at 13:36:50

In reply to Re: psycho-social support (redirect from PB) » jay, posted by JahL on October 8, 2001, at 3:37:14

here's a suggestion: since you all seem bent on displaying your anger and hostility for all to see, we won't mind if you take the discussion away again.

how'd that be?

PSB is, wonderfully, happily, devoid of such harping. hit each other over the heads with your intellectual superiorities elsewhere, or not at all. if you can't be supportive, why bother posting?

peace, please,

wendy


> >I didn't take kindly to your backlash either, though, as I still tried to be respectful and kind.
>
> What are you like??? I certainly played no part in any backlash. I merely backed up Elizabeth's statement & stated a desire for psychotherapists to butt out of my life.
>
> >That is the most important thing, and I would hope we could all treat each other like that on here. I read Dr. Bob's code of *civility* to extend to the above. On one post, (different thread) I lashed out and realized how stupid and wrong it was. With this thread, I tried to tread as gently as possible, and all's I asked for was the same in return.
>
> > Well, I was refering to our general lack of ability to drop ego-boundaries. That can be a major hurdle in therapy, and my statements where not just made out of thin air..there is some very good research that backs it. No, it is not absolute, and cannot be "proven" 100 percent correct. I did not say anybody in particular was smug, but that not at least acknowleding there is an opinion different then yours or a few others is, especially when that opinion has some good backing.
>
> Who wasn't 'acknowledging' psychotherapy? You're in a dreamland. The thread was about books.
>
> > > >You seemed to be saying that your treatment of choice (talk therapy + meds) is the only thing that will work, for anyone. Reading your posts to PSB only confirms this impression. It's particularly distressing that you stereotype those who aren't interested in talk therapy as having "ego-type issues" and believing that "they are too 'smart' for therapy or something." (Yes, you did sound "harsh and judgmental." I don't understand why you posted something if you knew that you were being unsupportive.) Personally, I've been through a lot of talk therapy of many flavors (among them: cognitive, interpersonal (group), psychodynamic, and supportive therapies), and it isn't for me. For the most part, it didn't help much, and in some cases it was actually harmful. I know that there are others who have been through this too.
> > >
> > > I'm one of them. Agree with you to the letter Elizabeth.
> > >
> > > J.
> >
> > Well, please show show me the research that concludes, across the board, that *modern* psychodynamic and life-skill (which is a type of rehab that has some of the strongest research backing it out of any treatment)therapy are absolutely harmful.
>
> Please show me where I, or Elizabeth said it's 'absolutely harmful'. We didn't. It just was for us. And then not 'absolutely'. What's yr problem with accepting this? (Ah-ha!-see below).
>
> > I do know what I am talking about in..
>
> No you don't, as is made apparent to yr long-winded, boastful post to me. My post was to Elizabeth.
>
> >...the wide range of therapies, as I am a counselor myself.
>
> THAT-SAYS-IT-ALL. You have a vested interest in all of this. AARRRGGGHHHH. Please don't talk to me anymore. Please.
>
> >Did you know about the other 100+ schools of therapy?
>
> No & I don't care.
>
> >Can you explain a life-skill module to me, types that are often used by the Red Cross on all corners of the planet?
>
> No. Did I say I can? That word 'smug' is coming to mind again.
>
> >Did you know CBT and psychoanalysis are now some of the least popular forms of therapy in the world?
>
> > The few comments made seem to based on experience
>
> Exactly. Forget the rest of yr sentence.
>
> GOODBYE.
>
> J.


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