Posted by alexandra_k on August 29, 2013, at 20:42:49
In reply to Re: making things worse, posted by alexandra_k on August 29, 2013, at 20:25:42
I know now why most people don't stand a chance.
Part of it is children being raised in fairly harsh conditions. Lots of rough-housing. Don't be silly. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. It isn't cold. You aren't hungry. Etc.
Then abandonment as the next child is born which forces weaning and... Neglect. Only it isn't because there are lots of other people around for you to seek care from. And so... Seek care you do. As loudly and gregariously as possible. And you persist... And other people feed you and hug you and so on. And in this way you learn to extract help from others. You learn to please them in order to get their help.
And you end up with very noisy environments where individuals clamber over each other to get the attention and food etc that they need. Environments that reinforce the pushiest bully.
There is no place for me in that kind of environment. There is no place for reading. For writing. For maths. There is no place for the development of special musical skill (for instance) because some bully will only steal your guitar.
Michelangelo was painting the cistene chapel while a lot of other cultural groups were...
You can throw money at them but it is throwing money at a sinking ship unless people find a way to move the culture forward... A culture that isn't evolving, adapting, is dying. That is all there is to it. A lot of people want nothing more than to get the hell away from it. You have to get the hell away from it in order to have any chance of success in this world.
You need to have more money than others because you need power to enforce your needs when needs conflict. You need gates on communities because otherwise certain people can't flourish. I can't function in an environment that is not appropriately quiet. People who are incapable of being appropriately quiet need to be barred from entry. There is a gradual weeding and sorting and selecting process that happens... From first years to graduates to masters students to PhD to professor... You have stuff available to later years not available to earlier years in part because people can't be trusted. You need graduate only study areas because if they weren't graduate only you can bet that some idiots will ruin it for everybody by making a hell ofa racket. Either out of their own ignorance / stupidity or out of maliciousness because of their own inability.
I never used to feel this way.
I never used to be racist either. I need to get away from where I am because living there is resulting in my starting to have racist thoughts. I'm noticing that it is the Islander's / Maaori who are reliably the noisiest. I think it is a function of large families and the whole clambering over each other for basic needs thing. Some have managed to beat the poverty trap (in part by reducing the number of children they have). But most have not. When I hear a group of students being partiuclarly noisy in the library... It is a simple fact that they are far more likely to be Maaori or Pacific Island students.
The Hispanic people in North Carolina (that I saw) were either serving food or doing road works. Aside from one of my friends who was agraduate student. She was extremely a-typical... Her mother was a high school teacher and she did her undergrad at Stanford... I see how you grow up with racist stereotypes when it is a simple fact that you exposure is limited in these particular ways. It isn't a Maaori or Pacific Islander thing... It is more a Maaori or Pacific Islander + Poverty thing. And actually... Poverty. It is more about that. It is just that I don't see $ tags on people. And some are good at concealing the fact that they live in squalor.
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