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Re: Your Opinion: Am I Right Or Just Crazy/Irrational » one woman cine

Posted by JeffSmith on March 19, 2007, at 16:15:57

In reply to Re: Your Opinion: Am I Right Or Just Crazy/Irrational » JeffSmith, posted by one woman cine on March 19, 2007, at 14:17:22

> Jeff, if you are on disability, most pdocs must take disability - medicare/medicaid. They cannot discriminate based on ability to pay.
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> However, pdocs/therapists may decline to treat a patient who they think they cannot help or is outside their ability to treat. ie. if a patient requires more intensive therapy/intervention etc.
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> I think maybe your letter stating that you "will kill yourself" at some point - that it is a forgone conclusion, then that could be red-flag to a provider and they may shy away for that reason. Providers want to help folks who are looking for help, and want to improve their lives, even in a small way.
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> Do you think you can be helped or treated? I think that is an important question that you need to ask yourself.
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>

Hi cine,
That may be true but for me every private therapist Ive contacted has said they do not take medicare. That woman Paula from the NYPGroup told me that none of her psychs accept it. And I also called another one earlier this morning (Dr. Shane Hibbs in Bayshore NY) who's receptionist said he also doesnt take it (the Doc was still supposed to call me back though and still hasnt and most likely wont).
The NYPGroup I keep referring to apparently has around 36 various therapists specializing in various things so Im sure at least one of them wouldve been able to treat me so this cant be a case of me being too troubled for them to handle.
Yes, in my letter I said I will definitely kill myself one day IF I am continually unsuccessful in getting mental help but I didnt indicate it was totally a forgone conclusion.
Yes of course I believe I can be helped or treated with the right help, but unfortunately Ive never been able to receive this.
You mentioned that providers want to help folks who are looking for help and want to improve their lives: Well the only provider I said anything about suicide to was the NYPGroup and in my email to them I was, again, clear that while I planned to kill myself one day I was first and desperately looking for help as an alternative to suicide.
And on the phone with Paula I was more than as clear as you could possibly imagine that I wanted/needed help and nothing else... and as I said, she admitted that its all about the money.
Not to mention that if a therapist would shy away from a person just because they perceived from one letter (or for any reason) that this persons suicide was a forgone conclusion (which wouldve been a wrong perception to start with in my case) then this person should no longer be a therapist.
What kind of therapist/human being would immediately refuse to see/give up on any attempt whatsoever to help a person just because they may think this person will definitely kill themselves one day? Wouldnt it be better to at least try to help this person first? Do therapists shy away from patients who are dying from terminal illness?
I think my perception of what/how a therapist should be must be very warped.

Also cine, thanks for seconding the tip to Col. Pres. Hospital... if its really that good Ill definitely check it out.


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