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Re: Found Psychological Babble - p.s. memory » Squiggles

Posted by mattdds on June 2, 2003, at 10:49:41

In reply to Re: Found Psychological Babble - p.s. memory » mattdds, posted by Squiggles on June 2, 2003, at 10:18:50

>>I believe that a person who is being beaten
by a stick, physical or psychological, even
a dog for that matter, will feel much better
and will recover when that stick is removed.
I think that you are putting the onus on the
victim here, when the CBT should really be
applied on the person causing the depression.
Bullies may need CBT more than the bullied

I just agreed with what you said above: people in traumatic events *do* indeed need to be taken out of the event. Where did I say it should be otherwise?

You say I am putting the "onus" on the person who was victimized. I don't quite understand what you mean. You seem to be saying that CBT is some sort of punishment, and that the victim doesn't deserve it. CBT is intended to help victims, last time I checked.

So what you are saying is that if someone is raped, we should do the CBT on the person who did the raping? But what about the victim? Do we just give him/her medications and totally avoid the CBT? Or what do we do? You tell me.

I agree with you, however, that the angry oppressor could benefit from CBT. But I think that he/she is much less likely to accept it. Forcing CBT on people never works, they have to seek the help. Anger *feels* too good to want to overcome it. I am not saying that CBT can't help anger, but that people are less likely to search treatment because anger feels empowering, whereas, e.g. depression is painful.

Thanks,

Matt


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