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Re: WWJVF?

Posted by Estella on May 19, 2006, at 3:05:21

In reply to Re: WWJVF?, posted by Estella on May 18, 2006, at 21:56:53

i guess i have a personal bias (just like everyone else)
but my bias is that i'm an athiest.
though if pushed...
i'll fall back on agnosticism as the most rational position...
but if by 'god' you mean an agent that is beyond the natural laws yet can affect changes (directly) to what lies within the natural world...
an agent that is all loving (benevolent)
all powerful
then i think that notion is incoherant

(a contradiction cannot be the case)

so i guess that makes me an athiest

(if you define god as consciousness then i believe in consciousness so i guess that means i believe in god, if you define god as life then i believe in life so i guess that means i believe in god but you have radically changed the meaning of 'god' in defining him as being numerically identical with those things)

when i see the wars that result from religion...
the hostility...
the fighting (both verbal and physical)
for what?
a notion that is deeply incoherant?

sigh.

i have no trouble with learning about what people believe
i have no trouble with learning about what different religions say

but to hear it as truth
to be required to pray...

requiring people to pray...

imo it is a personal choice that should be confined to the personal realm. do it at home. do it in churches.

but teaching it as truth?
as facts?

i have trouble with taht...


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