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Re: WWJVF? » Estella

Posted by zazenduck on May 18, 2006, at 11:03:10

In reply to Re: WWJVF? » zazenduck, posted by Estella on May 18, 2006, at 5:43:43

> >... In the past, I was as guilty as any other Democrat in being hesitant to speak of political issues in moral and religious terms. But I have come to realize that there are some policy areas in which I can best articulate my political beliefs by also articulating the Christian values in which these beliefs are rooted.
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> :-O
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> christian values?
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> how about muslim values
> or hindu values
> or athiest values
> or buddist values
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> ?

How about them?

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> why does he have to drag christianity into it?

Why not?


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> can't you just talk about your human values without invoking religion?

Can you? Should you? Should you ask others to do the same?
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> can't you just talk about your human values and morality without invoking religion?

Well some folk claim humanism is a religion. Of course the Kinkster is on record supporting non denominational prayer in the school even if the kids want to pray to a rock or a tree. So I suppose if you wanted to pray to the Psyche or human wisdom or your uncle Bob that would be okay by him too.
But like ole Bob Zimmerman said before he renamed himself after a Welsh poet....You gotta serve somebody ....So I want to know who the guy I'm voting for is serving. Yes I want to know what he believes but I want to know why and what his guiding principals are.I want him to be forthright and stand up for what he believes. Kinky is calling for dewuss*fication (an end to political correctness) and by Georgina I'm for that too. That's a long way from wanting him to establish a religion for me. And it's a long way from saying I wouldn't vote for someone with different beliefs.
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> i don't understand...
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> :-(
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> er...
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> so the death penalty is popular in texas (in the sense that most people in texas think it should be retained)?

I don't know. It is legal.
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> er...
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> i still don't understand why someone would want to change his name to that...

Why not? Why would you not want to change your name to that? Does it matter that he did?

> and i still don't understand how someone who changed his name to that could be taken terribly seriously...

If he had been born with that name would you be able to take him seriously? What about his decision to change his name makes it hard for you ?

> and how someone might get voted in for a dawg orphanage (how about a people orphanage)
> ?

Do you believe he might be voted in for a dawg orphanage? It isn't part of his official platform. I included it in the spirit of positive posting. And I personally think you can tell a lot about a man by the way he treats a stray dawg. Chris bell feeds the homeless once a week. Do you think he will be voted in because of that? I would never look a gift sandwich in the mouth but that seems like pretty short rations for sustaining life. And them dawgs have a home for life. And it gives Kinky an opportunity to make powerful political friends. Miss Laura the first lady of our nation has donated a pen to Kinky's dawg home. I personally believe this enhances his political resume which also includes a failed attempt to run for city council of Kerrville.

Do you think running a dawg orphanage somehow indicates a lack of support for human orphanages? (Many of them are run either by the state or by religous organizations.)


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> but then i don't understand the world one hell of a lot...

Same here :)


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