Posted by Lou PIlder on April 3, 2010, at 15:54:20
In reply to Lou's response-phazahkyu » SLS, posted by Lou PIlder on April 3, 2010, at 15:14:06
> > Hi Lou.
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> > Untoward psychiatric side effects are not exclusive to psychiatric drugs. Prednisone is a leading example of how a drug critical to the healing of disease can produce psychosis and depression. There a risks along with the benefits. It is incumbent upon the treating physician to monitor for the evolution of these side effects and address them accordingly. There are at least two scenarios by which a patient being treated with an antidepressant can express suicidality as a treatment-emergent effect. A good physician recognizes this, and must monitor a patient closely early in treatment. It is unfortunate that there has been such a dearth of study of these phenomena, as it would prove instructive to ascertain their frequency. It is my impression that it occurs in a small minority of cases.
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> > I will yield to you here.
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> > I have discussed this issue with others several times in the past. It has many facets and requires some effort to address them all. At the moment, I am not interested in revisiting it. I recognize and appreciate your passions and intentions. However, I very much disagree with your conclusions. Unfortunately, there still remains a backlash against the use of psychiatric drugs, even though they save lives and reduce suffering when used intelligently. For now, my primary concern is that the drugs you would have taken away from me remain available, as they do afford me a reduction of pain and suffering.
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> > - Scott
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> Friends,
> It is written herte,[...It is incumbent upon the treating physician to monitor for the evolution of these side effects (suicide ideation)...]
> I agree. However, the treating physician can not be with the person taking the drug all the time. I also know of cases where hospitalized people taking these drugs in question have killed themselves.
> It is written here,[...I disagree with your conclusions...].
> Friends, this thread is about what the bible in question here says or does not say in relation to if those taking mind-altering drugs will have their place in the Lake of Fire. I do not think that I have stated a conclusion in this thread and if one sees one by me, please post it here so that I can respond.
> It is written here,[...drugs you would have taken away from me...]
> I do not believe that in this thread I have posted to have those drugs in question taken away from anyone. The thread here is a faith thread about as to if those that use mind-altering drugs will be cast into the Lake of Fire by the God of the bible here in question. Could all of you that are reading this please understand that my passion here is to save lives and to help those that want to be free from mind-altering drugs by offering support and education to them from my perspective. I am not involved in any group to have psychotropic drugs taken off the market. I am not a member of any religious or other group having an agenda aginst psychotropic drugs.
> Lou
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Friends,
This thread is involved in discussion as to if those that use mind-altering drugs will or will not be cast into the Lake of Fire as in the bible in question here.
You may know of some of the popular teachings concerning the Lake of Fire and who is assigned or not to be cast into there.
One, (BF), has brought up here that there is a teaching concerning sorcerers in relation to mind-altering drugs that is mentioned in relation to the Lake of Fire in that bible. But my concern here is that it has been revealed to me that there is a way that one can be cast into the Lake of Fire and not be harmed. I would not want anyone to have the fate of being cast into a Lake of Fire and suffer that kind of harm.
You see, if you believe in that the bible in question here is true, then is not all of what is written in it true?
And as I stood at the edge of the Great Gulf I saw a great Fire with people being cast into it at the bottom of the gulf. And the Rider was there and He said to me, "He that overcomes will not be hurt by the second death."
My friends, I want for you as a people to not be hurt by the second death. I may not be able to tell you here how to escape that fate. But you could email me if you like.
Lou
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