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Salvation, Works and Faith

Posted by IsoM on July 20, 2002, at 2:26:57

In reply to Re: I've never understood that., posted by Dinah on July 20, 2002, at 1:21:03

I will offer no opinions but will only quote some different Bible verses on these subjects. You can draw your own conclusions. I feel debating religion leads nowhere. Discussion can sometimes, but internet forums are a poor place for discussion. The text taken is from various Bible translations.

Faith & Works or Deeds:
"In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accomplished by action, is dead"
"You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone."
"As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead." - James 2:17,24,26 (International Bible translation)

Bible's definition of Faith:
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." - Hebrew 11: 1 (King James version)
Notice that it says "evidence of things not seen"? Real faith is not 'blind' but is based on solid evidence, just as we cannot 'see' black holes but there is scientific evidence that they exist.

"By grace you have been saved by faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God - not because of works, let any man should boast." - Ephesians 2:8,9
"He (referring to Jesus) bcame the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him." - Hebrew 5:9 (Revised Standard version)

Misplaced Zeal:
"For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they, being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God." - Romans 10:2,3
"Not every one who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' And then will I declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.'" - Matthew 7:21-23 (Revised Standard version)




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