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Re: @ Christempowered: Orthomolecular Lamdage22

Posted by bleauberry on March 10, 2018, at 11:05:04

In reply to @ Christempowered: Orthomolecular, posted by Lamdage22 on February 21, 2018, at 7:15:32

That looks like awesome coverage, if you ask me. Especially the cofactors in the Thorne products.

Whether you add to it or tweak it, I doubt it gets you where you want. For that you need other specific mechanisms, beyond supplying excellent nutrients.

Three areas to study and conquer - covered extremely well in a book called Healing Lyme, whether you have Lyme or not, doesn't matter - you want to rid the body and brain of inflammation and the toxins resulting from the inflammation - you want to remove pathogenic microbial organisms from your brain and body, and the toxins they excrete - there are multiple pathways for all of these - medicines are much too narrow to cover all the pathways - but herbs in Lyme books do all of it.

I only mention that because it is how my 20 year treatment resistant depression/bipolar/schizoaffective ended.

And the two M.D.s who played major roles in getting me well told me that 9 out of 10 patients of theirs are just like me - long time suffering, long time depression, long time prescriptions, long time not doing so well - and when they finish treatment similar to what I mentioned above, they no longer need psychiatric meds or are able to significantly lower doses.

The nutrient list looks great!

If that were my cocktail and I wanted to make it better, knowing what I know now, this is what I would add to it:

Rhodiola Rosea 100mg to 1200mg
EGCg (green tea extract) 400mg
Cordyceps 400mg to 3000mg
Resveratrol from Japanese Knotweed (Polygonum Cupsidatum) not resveratrol from grapes. Source Naturals is a decent brand. Two caps 3X day.
Chinese Skullcap (also called Baicalin) (don't use American Skullcap it is not the same thing) 2 caps 3X day

I mean I could keep going and add another dozen easy. But for a longtime psychiatric patient looking to make some progress, the items I listed have amazing multifaceted properties that directly and indirectly help improve any psychiatric symptoms. There is a ton of antimicrobials in there - as much as antibiotics or antifungals -, and there is a ton of anti-inflammatories, more than 2 or 3 prescriptions put together - a ton of toxin mop-up from them and your nutrients.

Always start with tiny doses and work up. Plan on 3 month trials not 6 week trials. These herbal medicines change, repair and restore your chemistry in good ways but they need time to do that. Your nutrient base is awesome to build upon.

I could write a book why I listed those particular supplements. There is that much potential with them it would take a book to explain it all. Three of them are some of the world's super herbs.

I

> Hi Christempowered,
>
> you seem to know your stuff talking ORTHOMOLECULAR. I am taking a multi vitamin that contains:
>
> Vitamin A 800 microgram
> Vitamin E 18 mg
> Vitamin C 120mg
> Vitamin K 30 microgram
> Vitamin B1 1,6 mg
> Vitamin B2 2,1 mg
> Vitamin B6 2,1 mg
> Vitamin B12 3 microgram
> Vitamin D 5 microgram
> Biotin 62,5 microgram
> Folic Acid 200 microgram
> Niacin 20mg
> Panthotenic Acid 7,5 mg
> Calcium 200 mg
> Phosphorous 105 mg
> Magnesium 120 mg
> Iron 3,75 mg
> Iodine 100 microgram
> Copper 500 microgram
> Manganese 2mg
> Chrome 40 microgram
> Molybdenum 50 micrograms
> Selenium 30 micrograms
> Zinc 5 mg
>
> Ontop i take the thorne research Basic B Complex 1 capsule in the mornin with the following ingredients:
>
> Thiamin (as Thiamin HCl) 110 mg.
> Riboflavin (as Riboflavin 5'-Phosphate Sodium) 10 mg.
> Niacin (130 mg as Niacinamide and 10 mg as Niacin) 140 mg.
> Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxal 5'-Phosphate) 10 mg.
> Folate (400 mcg as L-5-Methyltetrahydrofolate from L-5-Methyltetrahydrofolic Acid,Glucosamine Salt) 667 mcg DFE
> Vitamin B12 (as Methylcobalamin) 400 mcg.
> Biotin 400 mcg.
> Pantothenic Acid (as Calcium Pantothenate) 110 mg.
> Choline (as Choline Citrate) 28 mg. )
>
> and 5mg Methylfolate.
>
> Then i take 250mg Magnesium, 200 microgram Selenium, 10mg Zinc,1500 mg Threonine, 3000mg Taurine, 2000mg Vitamin C time released and 8333 mg Vitamin D3. Ontop i will take K2 60mg beginning tomorrow.
>
> Where can i improve? Vitamin E or A? Which product and dosage? How do i know if i have enough potassium?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Lamdage
>
>
>


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