Posted by Meri-Tuuli on August 4, 2006, at 6:00:05
In reply to Re: Meri-Tuuli Re: Rhodiola, posted by Mistermindmasta on August 2, 2006, at 23:22:41
>it DEFINITELY will make a hangover 100 times worse.
I haven't really noticed this one yet properly, as I haven't really had any great alcohol binges recently. But I do drink maybe one or two bottles a beer a night, and I certainly do feel a touch groggy in the mornings. Yeah, I think you've never touched conventional medicines right?? Well, SSRIs etc also have the same effect. Really make hangovers unbearable. Good to know about the safely profile too. I get the impression that its particulary safe, even for a herb. Apparently it has anti-cancer and anti-oxidant properties too.
> I take breaks with any herb I use, but that's just my personal choice. I'd say it's safe to use indefinitely, though. I just feel safer taking intermittent breaks just in case there are side effects that are unknown at this point in time.
Very sensible. i've only been on it for two months, so I don't feel like I need a break. Plus I take a pretty low dose, so I'll be alright for the next few months at least. Probably good to take breaks too to avoid poop out.
>Also, I find that Rhodiola's withdrawal period is only like 24 - 36 hours, which is nice.
This is interesting. I obviously haven't stopped it yet, but its good to know. I guess this would be congrugent with its stimulant properties etc. I had a hellish time for two weeks coming of SJW.
Do you have any ideas as to how rhodiola might work?? I know that nobody really has a clue, but I read some reports that it might be a COMT inhibitor.
>that's another reason why I use new chapter.
Plus they're the only ones who I've seen giving you correct information regarding when to take it. BTW do you do the half hour before breakfast thing?
> Very cool. Try kava and SJW if you haven't already tried them. They tend to be compatible with school.
I have tried SJW before, but not in conjunction with anything else. It was quite good. Good for anxiety and general blue feelings. Have you tried it with rhodiola? I'd be really interested in hearing about that. Have you tried rhodiola with any amino acid supps? Hmm. I'm not sure what I think about amino acids. On the one hand, I tried tyrosine and it was amazing (loads of energy, socialability, curbed apetite, great outlook) but I somehow think that they're only a short term solution. It goes against my instincts to think that that sort of response would be sustainiable long term. I'm sure the body would get used to receiving a certain about of amino acid and that i'd poop out and then you'd be left worse off that you started with.
Hmm. Rhodiola with tyrosine would be like rocket fuel or something. I, personally, would be far to scared to try it.
Anyway yeah kava kava, I don't know, I read some concerns about liver toxicity with this one. a paragraph in a book I have says that under normal circumstances kava kava isn't a problem, but if you're taking prescription drugs, a heavy drinker, kava adds to your livers burden and that a metabolite of kava can build up particulary if you're using a brand that eliminates glutathione. I'm not even sure you can buy it anywhere here. I can give you more details if you want.
Thanks for all your input.
BTW what do you study? I've studied geology and will be going back in the fall.... yeah, rocks, I know.
Kind regards
Meri
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